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#1 Nov 16 2007 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi guys, I've been pausing on my mage for a week or so trying to get full rested XP to 70, and I will continue aoe-ing today to get to 70. I have planned to do all the NS and SMV quests at 70, and I am wondering which spec to go for for the most efficient questing?

I am currently specced frost aoe, which I want to change in some way, but I don't know if it would be smart to go fire, or if that'd be just gimping myself. I shouldn't have that much trouble with my quests since I can just pick em up, soar over there on my white gryphon and do em. Any tips or suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!
#2 Nov 16 2007 at 6:48 AM Rating: Good
if you want to stay frost, drop improved blizzard and other aoeing talents and pick up frostbite + shatter
#3 Nov 16 2007 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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For all around frost utility, I like 1/0/60 for a frost build. That'll work for raiding, PvE and PvP. That way you can keep some useful stuff (improved blizzard) and still get all the damage enhancing things. Oh, fyi... at lvl 70 you can AOE big groups of stuff even with frostbite (that's how I used to get all my bastalisk (sp?) meat.).
#4 Nov 16 2007 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you both, so in conclusion, fire is just a bad thing to do? But if I were to try a fire build, what would a such build be? Any arcane complements such as Arcane Concentration?

Also, as you asked for spelling, not to be a pain in the *ss but it's spelled basilisk I believe :)

Thank you both for your input!
#5 Nov 16 2007 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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NP... I didn't believe it looked right when I typed it. For the spec, fire is great too. I have played almost every spec, and most of them are really fun. For PvP, fire is the lesser spec, but for PvE, fire is the most damaging spec (10/48/3). I like BGs too much to stay full fire for too long. I haven't gotten into arena much yet, but I find that I PvP most of the time when I'm not raiding/farming for stuff for raiding. I would ask you to try a few different specs just to see what they do/how they play. There is no substitute for experience.
#6 Nov 16 2007 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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So you'd say the best fire spec to use for questing would be 10/48/3 i.e. the raid spec? And if so, could you paste a link to one such? I am not fully sure how it looks, other than elemental precision =) Rate up to all that have helped me out!
#7 Nov 16 2007 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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NameAlreadyExists wrote:
So you'd say the best fire spec to use for questing would be 10/48/3 i.e. the raid spec? And if so, could you paste a link to one such? I am not fully sure how it looks, other than elemental precision =) Rate up to all that have helped me out!


While I believe 10/48/3 is the best grinding spec for fire, the best 10/48/3 for grinding looks a little different than the best 10/48/3 for raids.
#8 Nov 16 2007 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Any possibility to a link of a grinding type 10/48/3 Poldaran? :) Would be lovely.

Edited, Nov 18th 2007 7:07am by NameAlreadyExists
#9 Nov 16 2007 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
IMO a arcane/fire hybrid is the best all around build. If your planning on doing arena alot then frost is still the way to go. But as for 5mans, kara, heroics, BGs and questing all at once 33/28/0 is my fav. The AP PoM Pyro option is great in BGs as well as questing. I don't know how many times i've been fighting a mob and another pops up and comes over so i just quickly 2 shot it and head by to my mob. The arcane allows me to run 5 mans with lesser geared tanks and still keep my agro down while still having a high DPS. With the fire I can do all of kara no problem. Mana pool stays high as well. BGs are cake with that spec. I'll never run the flag but you can still be really good support with that spec. I've done deep frost, deep fire, deep arcane and a mix of all.. even a PoM pyro iceblock (PTR FTW!!!) and this is my favorite build.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spinebreaker&n=Jubie
#10 Nov 16 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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I am not the mage elite like pol or anobix, but I think something like this would work.
#11 Nov 16 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for your reply! Although, might that build not be pretty manainefficient compared to maybe a full fire or nearby, maybe even 10/48/3 more fire specialized build that concentrates on fireball and such?

EDIT: Saw your post fuganator, that looks great, rate up =)

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 3:38pm by NameAlreadyExists



Edited, Nov 16th 2007 3:43pm by NameAlreadyExists
#12 Nov 16 2007 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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1) /cry I guess I am not a mage elite
2) I would use a build more like this for questing (not raiding).
#13 Nov 16 2007 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Ktangent, and yes, imo you really are a mage elite :P Anyway, why no Clearcasting? What's the big difference except Playing With Fire?
#14 Nov 16 2007 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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ktangent wrote:
1) /cry I guess I am not a mage elite
2) I would use a build more like this for questing (not raiding).


Sorry ktangent, those were the first two that came to mind You are one of those mage elite. /high five.
#15 Nov 16 2007 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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lol... ego is stroked. (Actually, I don't rate up there with some of the posters with thousands, I'm here to learn, and I do all the time.)

Anyhow... the difference is playing with fire (+3% damage), master of elements (fire-based mana efficiency), Improved scorch (good for 5 mans and scorch spam in PvP). You don't need clearcasting for quest grinding... the mana you'll get back from crits will be roughly equal, plus you don't need to burn the points to get through the first level of arcane.

Have fun... HTH.
#16 Nov 16 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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That does make sense. I just don't ever see a mob alive long enough to put imp scorch up in just regular old questing, but if you are going to be pvping, you may as well.

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 4:11pm by fuganator
#17 Nov 16 2007 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
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For Grinding/Soloing:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0VZEgMzbcfoeRt0h

This is what I picture as just about the most optimal soloing build available to fire. It's actually what I ended up with when I first dinged 70(only difference is that I was leveling to 70 right after TBC came out, so I instanced a ton and had 2/3 Imp Scorch instead of 2/3 Playing with Fire).
#18 Nov 17 2007 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you all! Poldaran, in your build, how about switching Playing With Fire 2/3 to Blazing Speed 2/2? It's a nice lifesaver imo, and I like it for those occasional pvp moments I will try out, even when knowing I'll get *ssrammed with a fire spec :P Would that be stupid? Can't make too much of a dmg difference eh?
#19 Nov 17 2007 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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NameAlreadyExists wrote:
Thank you all! Poldaran, in your build, how about switching Playing With Fire 2/3 to Blazing Speed 2/2? It's a nice lifesaver imo, and I like it for those occasional pvp moments I will try out, even when knowing I'll get *ssrammed with a fire spec :P Would that be stupid? Can't make too much of a dmg difference eh?


You can if you'd like, but I've never been much a fan of abilities that you have to be hit to proc(unless they're added effects like Molten Armor proccing Impact or Ice Armor proccing Frostbite). But it shouldn't make too much of a difference in your grinding.
#20 Nov 17 2007 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks again, and then finally, is this an efficient build to quest with? Gonna hit Netherstorm tomorrow, just got to 70 *gasp* :D
#21 Nov 17 2007 at 4:01 AM Rating: Good
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Should work fairly well questing.
#22 Nov 17 2007 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
Both ktangent and polds builds both look excellent, can't really see a reason not to use either of them.
#23 Nov 17 2007 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
the only thing i don't get here is why your looking for a quest only build. After I dinged 70 it took me 3 days (about 10 hours) to do all the quests in SMV and netherstrom. Then another day to get to the Orgi'la dailies and Netherwing ones. After that it was raid/instance quests. You need to be thinking of what you want to do AFTER the questing is done. If you want to PvP then frost will be fine for both. If you want to raid and do heroics then you need to be looking at a build that will get those done as well as allow you to finish up your quests. IMO 10/48/0 doesn't come into play untill you get either T4 or spellstrike/spellfire sets. We have 4 mages in our guild that are doing Kara, ZA, and Gruuls and we all are a fire/arcane hybird. Means we have more mana, higher crit damage and better hit rating.

Looking for the best build for somthing your going to do for a few days is a waste of G.
#24 Nov 17 2007 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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In all honesty, ***** fire for solo questing. Frost allows you to solo a lot more elite group quests than fire will.
#25 Nov 18 2007 at 1:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, DarkHybridX, it all comes down to how much playtime you have. I have generally 2 hours a day, weekends 4 hours a day, and well, it ain't much, and I will be stuck questing/farming for my epic flyer for a number of weeks, which gives me a bigger reason to spec well for such occasions.

Might be a few days for you, but everyone doesn't have the same opportunity, sadly.

Filterspawn, I've started thinking so lately aswell, seeing as my dps is fine enough with frost (thanks to the divine shatter combo :P) and my survivability would be sick. I will stick with my 10/48/3 for a day or two to see how it is, since I've done ok with it anyway so far. Being able to just soar around from place to place to do your quests is a great opportunity aswell, that's what I'm loving with questing at 70.
#26 Nov 18 2007 at 1:31 AM Rating: Good
That's fine and all. I understand that play time varies from person to person. I just like to look ahead and thing about what i'll be doing with my toon. You can quest with any spec so I like to pick the one I will be using after questing and stick with it. Learn it, love it, and master it. I remember when I went to fire after lvling to 70 with frost and how bad I sucked at it lol. Just remember that if your a tailor and are going to be making your sets then your going to be stuck with either arcane/fire or frost for a while depending on what set you make. Good luck with whatever you choose and enjoy showing people what DPS really is :)
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