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#1 Nov 15 2007 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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Just like the subject says =)

What are the min requirements for tanking in heroic's?

I know that when I see a tank for a heroic on my mage, I pretty much shutter when I know they have less than 10k HP's.

So what's like the min gear/HP requirements? If good enough tank gear for starting Kara (base's 490, 11.5k hp, 12k armor, and 31% avoidance) ok for things like Heroic Mech? Mainly I just want to get The Sun Eater as soon as possible =)

Thanks much in advance!!
#2 Nov 15 2007 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
Your def is okay.

Other requirements:

You'll need at least 15000 armor (With shield ofc). You'll also need at least 11000-12000 hp. Further, you'll need a reasonable spec, geared towards tanking (Doesn't need to be full prot).

I went to do blood furnace earlier today, with a tank with 9485 hp and 11000 armor. He died before healer could get a heal off; Got utterly destroyed.

I'm not saying he got killed or owned. He got ******* DESTROYED. Dominated. Utterly, hopelessly and totally ripped to pieces smaller then atoms, spit out and nuked to utterdeath.

Don't come to heroics like that. Just don't.
#3 Nov 15 2007 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
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you won't need 15k armor for 99% of heroics. 12k armor is enough.

heroic requirements are just about identical to kara requirements, you'll be fine with a competent group. BEWARE THOUGH, with heroics being available to anyone with HONORED rep, you're going to see a lot of undergeared people jump in to try to do them.
#4 Nov 15 2007 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks guys =)

And I know about honored... it's actualy how my War has all her keys, BUT... I am also a total min/mak'er when it comes to gear. Pretty much before she set foot to even tank a non-heroic lvl 70 instance.. she had the 490, 30% avoid, 11.5k hp's, and 12k armor.

I have been in those heroics where you wonder.. how did these tanks GET revered with these people?? I can't stand it.

On a note.. off-tanked Kara tonight up to Opera (right before curator.. our MT's account got hacked.. or taken back... it's was just a MESS lol). And had no problem at all with any of the mobs. Our healers actually complained they were so bored during boss fights.. and we survived no deaths on Moroes with 3 DPS/Healers garroted and no deaths.) Alas.. the only thing she got tonight was the Pocket Watch but... it's still better than no upgrades!

So when I am not raiding.. off to find/get my heroic gear for the lower lvl ones and more min/max'ing!!! (am I strange cause I find that fun... lol)

#5 Nov 16 2007 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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grats on the pocket watch, it's really damn nice when tanking fast hitting mobs where avoidance plays a bigger role. You should try to grab the new heroic legs for sure, and some other new pieces if possible too. The autoblocker is also HUGE for threat gains and you should try to grab that asap.
#6 Nov 19 2007 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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BEWARE THOUGH, with heroics being available to anyone with HONORED rep, you're going to see a lot of undergeared people jump in to try to do them.


Tried to run SV yesterday on my hunter. Found a PUG after LFG all day. Pally tank...

We wiped more times than anyone ever should. The whole time he was saying "man I need to work on my gear". I looked up his armory and he was sitting on about 450 def. His armor/hp were on the low side too.

So yes, beware!! Now that almost anyone can get in to Heroics they feel they need to try and waste other people's time even when they know they need to work on my gear.

I wish Bliz would put up a warning before they enter in saying "Please make sure you are able to tank this Heroic Instance before entering."

Edited, Nov 19th 2007 9:21am by Scolariman
#7 Nov 19 2007 at 6:36 AM Rating: Decent
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The minimum stats for Kara will work in heroics as well. I proved this to myself the other night with my first heroic run. The party makeup plays a huge role and should be taken into consideration for each instance. And DO be on the lookout for undergeared players looking for heroic runs. I had to drop one group last night because two people were not prepared. I did find a group with everyone (except me) being decked out in mostly epics and we had a very smooth fast run of Seth Halls.

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You should try to grab the new heroic legs for sure


Where do these drop? I haven't seen anything on them yet.
#8 Nov 19 2007 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
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The heroic legs he's talking about are the new ones they put in that you buy with badges. They cost around 75 badges and are oh so nice. :P
#9 Nov 19 2007 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh those legs. I thought he meant a new boss drop. Yeah, those legs are nice /drool.
#10 Nov 19 2007 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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i think more people should know what the minimum stats for heroic tanking are, before they blame the tank and instead realize that the group is poorly balanced. i pugged heroic mech, and my only cc was a Spriest MC and a lock's seduce. i have 11.8k hp/12.5k armor/33% avoidance/22% block, and with all the stam buffs i had 14k hp. we didn't even get past the entrance. we pulled out and the pally healer said, "i'm sorry guys, this is a gear issue, i can't heal 5 people at once". then i said, "whose gear?"... the fury warrior says, "yours". i just o.O GG and left.

and yes, i spammed the usual rotation of shield slam/revenge/tclap/shield block/devastate and was careful not to break cc, but of course since MC and seduce suck (with a non-demo spec lock), i had to bail the priest and lock out with taunts... unfortunately they would die much more quickly than the 6 second cd.

GG pugs. i hate you all over again.
#11 Nov 22 2007 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
im not gonna lie...pugs &^*$ing suck. i hate them and always will. i pugged a heroic SH...omg /kill self... had a rogue who point blank refused to sap... saddest part...my dmg output was higher than his and im tanking... do runs with friends or guilds whenever u can... cause if u don't this might happen to u. that's why i pvp now... anyways, as for min stats on heroics... 12-14k armor sounds about right and get as much health as u can...ur gonna need it. grab commanding pressence/booming voice if ur a war n crank out commanding shout...its about 1350+ hp boost and helps a ton.
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