Benchmarks for HeroicsFollow

I would think that spelldmg > 750 and spellhit > 100 would be good.

Gettin 100 spell hit isn't that hard to get. Spell strike gloves and pants, scryers bloodgem, ashyens gift, +hit enchant to gloves, and some vnt's. I am pretty sure that alone will put you over 100.

You need spell hit in heroics if you want to keep track of your resists and such on bosses. Trash clearing requires no spell hit as those are just lvl 70 elites (in most cases).

For heroics themselves, you'll only need 5% hit to cap, 26 rating with talents or 63 without. You'll want to build it up for raiding, sure, but if you have no intention of going beyond there, you really don't need much at all.

So the bosses in heroics don't qualify as 73 elites (therefore requiring the 16% chance to hit?) I can say I didn't know that if it is true.

You can still get away with 600-700 damage and 40-60 hit (specially in ramps, BF, UB) and depending on group. The biggest problem we're all going to run into isn't people going to heroics with bad gear.. but people going to them with bad skills. I bailed on 3 heroic runs the day of the patch do to people pulling agro and getting 1 shotted.


But.... speaking of gear here's a story. Day of patch I was looking for a heroic Shatt halls and got into a pug. Now I have 800 damage and 89 hit.. and I like to think I know what I'm doing. But tank had 1 epic helm. Rogue had epic ring and trink. Hunter was all blues with 3 greens.... tank wiped on first pull and I blinked out and bailed. I'm going to say it.. getting keys at honored now was a really really..... REALLY stupid idea.

it really just depends on who got the keys at honored. because I am already geared it was nice that I didn't need to go grind 2 more faction's rep to get revered, but the biggest differencial will be between tanks and healers not being geared enough to be in a heroic. tanks must have the 490 defense and a ton of armor+hp or else they will die very quickly, meaning the healer must heal more proactively.

But it makes such a great difference when the DPS are also well geared. The run goes much smoother and much faster, and in cases where CC is not ideal, it can make the difference for wipe/no wipe. Plus, I am a mage, but it doesnt seem fair at all that only the tanks and healers should carry the biggest or the only responsability in terms of gear. Of course that their role is the vital one, but if I was them I would say "hell, if im geared and specced so great, i want you to have good gear as well".

I agree with KT. I am lucky enough to now be in a guild with very good tanks and healers, but the difference was hardly noticable as a DPS class between the two. Loving the daily's.