/Blush... Heroics. I'm I ready?Follow

490 defense is not optional. It is a must have for anyone tanking any heroic.

Also you'll want to try and get 30% total dodge+parry.

Hp and armor are ok.

So I walk in there right now with my gear I'll get eaten up the 1st pull?

I do have *not pictured in armory thanks to being on my mount*
[wowitem=27891]Adamantine Figurine[/wowitem] +32def
[wowitem=25772]Crystalline Kopesh[/wowitem] +12def
and if I need to replace my ghoul ring for:
[wowitem=28265]Dath'Remar's Ring of Defense[/wowitem]*just block value*

For a grand total of 505 defense. <---again.. crap information.. my math is no where near what I came up with after putting them on :/

With +stamina (12 stam) gems I think I'll be fine with the 12k? I guess I'll look at more enchants (dodge/health/stam/etc). Oh yeah, also +20 stamina for food, hopefully a priest for Fort stamina.

Now yes?

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 1:04am by GYFFORD

Give Ramparts a try too. I got a nice epic tanking belt from the chest at the end boss. There were a few tricky pulls once you go up the ramp to the 2nd and 3rd boss but if you can get past those the rest is cake. I used some FR gear for the end boss. Had about 111 FR plus the Pally fire ward thingy and it was an easy fight.


http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29238

Lion's Heart Girdle
Binds when picked up
Waist Plate
782 Armor
+26 Strength
+22 Agility
+31 Stamina
Durability 55 / 55
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases defense rating by 23.

Wow Quor, you must have uber l337 DPS gear to consistantly get 5.8k slams. Thats rather impressive I think, if it's true.

About heroics, if you already tank Kara, then you're ok for Heroics. As long as you know how to utilize Shield Block (for *** saving) and Shield Slam for mega threat, along with T.C. and Demo Shout, you should be fine.

I personally love runninng Heroics and I'm now more confident about running them as I have been topping the dmg meters (usually 1st or 2nd) and that gets rid of the "warriors can dps?" stereo types. Just the other day I spanked a Lock and a Hunter by over 200k dmg in Heroic SP.

As for Heroic Mech make sure you get a class that can interrupt (ie. Rogues, Enhance Shaman, DPS Warrior) the Tempest-Forge Destroyer's Charged Fist. It helps the tank and healer alot. You first encounter them when you go down the steps when clearing to first boss. Just a heads up.

Anybody else notice you all are talking about "Make sure you have over 490 defense" and he has stated (twice actually) that he has 505 defense...

Personally- go for it, Heroic Ramps would be the test, if you can't do that then you know you got some work to do.

I think it's funny that everyone is pointing him straight to heroic ramps. While not the hardest heroic, it's definitely not the easiest. What about Mech, which is pretty simple (though this one was mentioned. Slave Pens is INCREDIBLY simple, with Underbog not being very difficult either. If you know what you're doing, there are short cuts you can take through Slave Pens that make it a 20 minute run. Sethekk is another good one. Take a priest and a mage or rogue with you and you're pretty golden on CC there.

yeah, the heroic capacitus does a polarity shift debuff, which charges your members with a positive or negative charge (3 of one, 2 of the other). if positive and negative stand near each other, they shock one another for 2k nature damage every few seconds, but if like charges stand next to each other, you get +100% damage for each person with the same charge standing near you.

so in other words, if you have three people with the same charge all next to each other, youre talking +200% damage on three people. that ends the fight QUICK, which is good, because he enrages after 3 minutes and starts hitting for over 6k.

of course, after the fight is over, its customary in our guild for everyone to stand near the opposite charged person while the healers spam their mana trying to keep us up. or sometimes the healers just run. you have no idea how funny it is to see a gnome warlock chasing after a dwarf priest whos spamming renew and shield and prom while they both shock the crap out of each other over and over again.

as for you gyff, i say try it. the worst that can happen is you wipe. ramps may not be the easiest, but its familiar; we've all run ramps, and theres no real changes from non-heroic to heroic as far as bosses are concerned. its pretty much just more of the same. more dogs from omor, more damage from his curse thingy, more fire from nagaz.

heroic mech is also pretty easy (as heroics go) but pathaleon can be a bit more demanding than other last bosses for a first-time heroic runner, and the demon packs are brutal if you dont have either aoe healing or a warlock to enslave the small guys.

slave pens is another passable choice, but you need to do some research to figure out which mobs can and cant be CC'ed in there. thats one thing ramps doesnt have a lot of; most of the CC-immune mobs are solo pulls, or come with dogs (which are, in turn, CC-able, and non-elite anyway).

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 12:12am by Quor

Yha with those stats you are heroic and first bosses in kara ready.

For later bosses you'd really want to push your dodge+parry to +30%.

And yes most prot warriors DW when soloing/questing.

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 9:26am by Jimpadan

When you say 30 percent dodge and parry, is that 30 percent each or adding the 2 percents together to make 30.

Btw, is thee a mster list of heroics from easiest to hardest?

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The gems sell for 10g on my server, and they can get cut for 2, the only way you pay that much is if you buy them pre-cut.



Heh, on my Shammy I have great fun ressing people that died with the opposite debuff as me :)

Makes for some pissed off party members, but alot of Lolz

You can do it, just hang on for a while :)
You'll just have to get the milestones for kara, and then your off(considering warriors are pretty wanted)

after 490 def, stacking stam for all slots is a better idea for the vast majority of raid & heroic bosses.

as far as needing prot spec... you can do kara without prot spec with good gear, but you're just slowing the group down because the dps can't go all out [or do not have the gear yet] and also, more down time from the healers healing you more.

same goes for heroics.

gyff - two things:

farm up a devilshark cape

and get the quest reward warchief mantle. feel free to splurge on 12 stammers for these.

get these two pieces and you'll be ready for the first half of kara.

those two blues plus two or three epics and you'll be ready for prince/nightbane/hkm. fuggheddabout heroics.