Is bite pointless?Follow

Cashara is a beast mastery hunter. Her pets can quickly regenerate their focus. She now has a green warpstalker with claw. As claw is used as often as growl and focus regeneration permit, is there any point it training bite?

bite does a small but significant % of damage according to recap.

Small but significant, is that like being "kinda pregnant"?

On a soloing pet, perhaps. On a raidboss, not really. The few points you can throw into armor/health won't matter much, and your pet will not be tanking anything anyway. Hell, with this patch the pet will be going behind the boss anyway to avoid cleaves.

I don’t mind spending the 29 points on bite. I just wasn’t sure if it would add any DPS. Since claw has no cooldown I’m assuming that as soon as there is enough focus my pet is going to claw, except for growls. So I wasn’t sure if tossing in a bite every ten seconds would make much of a DPS difference.

Claw 9
Cost: 25 Focus
Damage: 54 to 76

Bite 9
Cost: 35 Focus
Cooldown: 10 sec
Damage: 108 to 132

Bite damage is higher than claw damage, but claw goes more often so claw does more DPS. I am a BM Hunter and use Claw and Bite on my cat, and whereas Claw crits can be nice, a Bite crit is even better, don't scoff at the little bit of damage, and if you're BM specced into Bestial Dsicipline and have Go for the Throat with a decent crit% to make it proc more often it adds more than just a small amount of DPS because you can have both Claw and Bite up.

How about this... solo a few enemies with just Claw on then try it with both Bite and Claw (leting your pet do all the damage) and see how the DPS differs.

From what you posted on the stats, bite does about 1.85 times as much damage as claw, for only 10 more Focus. Claw has no CD, so obviously it does more DPS, but using bite doesn't outright prevent you from using claw. Every 10 seconds, you use 10 more focus for a base of 55 more damage.

That should lead to a boost to DPS.

My boar has bite and gore, so it's not the same kind of test, but I could try that for myself.

Ok so i have a similar question i need clarified. I use a carion bird with growl, screech, bite, and dive. Should i use claw instead of bite? Also with those 5 skills which exactly would you guys suggest all together.

If I did not have any skills to increase the focus regeneration of my pet I would never use an instant attack such as claw or gore when soloing unless I did so manually. Without increased focus regeneration an instant attack such as that can keep a pet from growling as often as it should and that can lead to a pet losing agro. In an instance, where growl is turned off, this becomes a non-issue. But it can be problematic for low level pets such as crabs that don’t get bite.

I have my pet skill set-up reversed from some of you. I have bite and claw on auto-attack. Growl is the button I manually push. Why waste focus on growl when its not needed? Usually I pull aggro off my pet when the mob is at about 3/4 health. I typically only have to push the growl button once during a fight to keep aggro on my pet. If my pet is one or two levels below my hunter, I'll just wait a few seconds to start DPS. If my pet is further behind my hunter than that, its kiting or chain trap time.

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 2:40pm by ItsaGaAs