The new evocateFollow

An Int stick is actually a very good idea(one I must admit I hadn't considered). The change to Evocate actually suggests that mages pick up a bit more int than they used to, as well. I think that this change will benefit arcane mages the most, which is ok since they're the ones usually most in need.

Although I got that idea from the O-boards, I suggested using int stick first. and while I did do that last nite at ZA the results were still something between what we used to get from evocated if we look at numerical value of mana regained.

Yes spirit based evocate was a half-***** answer to mage mana regen problems. I recall the days when you have to put points into arcane to get 1) instant AE and 2) evocation. Any mage without those 2 talents were considered broken.

Given raiding circumstances, a mage using evocate would want around 75% to 80% mana back. We used to get this back quite easily by simply changing to a green weapon and a green wand. Being raid buffed also meant something, otherwise the amount returned was this number that time and this number this time. Unstable does not really describe how evocate is.

Now with this change, mages face another problem which you just brought up and its something I do not want to bring in here as what I am after now is a way to get more mana (at least numerically and not proportionally) back. If spirit was to remain on mage tier gear then at the very least spirit should do something extra than just provide very bad mana regen while in combat.

This also depends on your spec as to how good it is. I caved in and went arcane spec for the reduced threat, so my mana pool is huge. The old evocation would only give me back a small amount (40%?) of mana... getting 60% of a 10K+ mana pool is hawt!