Absolutely loving it. Had a similar night to RareBeast, and I can say that the pot/stone macro worked fine for me while tanking the bear boss in ZA. just made sure i had plenty of pots and stone every time. :)
we now have pot ability woot!
we got bear down on 3rd try then had a bash at eagle, and yeah his trash is mental, but a lot of fun. it'll cut the wheat from the chaff with groups thats for sure.
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selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
Ok the new potion in forms macro:
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
#show Super Healing Potion /cancelform /use Super Healing Potion /use Master Healthstone /use Charged Crystal Focus /cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
I'm confused how this works without getting eaten alive on the shift out?
What's the difference on the hordes cat form? I don't see it :S
EDIT: Besides being lower etc. I mean - all that fuzz for so little?
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 1:07pm by krqllebqlle
EDIT: Besides being lower etc. I mean - all that fuzz for so little?
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 1:07pm by krqllebqlle
Norellicus wrote:
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
Ok the new potion in forms macro:
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
#show Super Healing Potion /cancelform /use Super Healing Potion /use Master Healthstone /use Charged Crystal Focus /cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
I'm confused how this works without getting eaten alive on the shift out?
All those items do not trigger the global cooldown. Healing potions and healthstones/foci have their own timers but do not interfere with other abilities. As a result it can go through all those commands with no delay, only hitting a cooldown at the end back in bear.
Previously it took two clicks (not exactly sure why, something about how stuff was processed), and if you had lag you could spend a significant amount of time in caster form, enough to avoid using the macro on any but the slowest attackers. Now it's all processed at once, so no matter what your lag is, the server handles everything and you're only in caster for thew blink of an eye. You can still catch an unlucky hit but it's rare.
So you hit the macro once, and it goes through all those commands in succession without you having to do anything else?
I don't work with macros much and the ones I have are all /castsequence based so I don't fully understand this stuff :P
I don't work with macros much and the ones I have are all /castsequence based so I don't fully understand this stuff :P
Norellicus wrote:
So you hit the macro once, and it goes through all those commands in succession without you having to do anything else?
I don't work with macros much and the ones I have are all /castsequence based so I don't fully understand this stuff :P
I don't work with macros much and the ones I have are all /castsequence based so I don't fully understand this stuff :P
Right.
For arena, I think i'll be making a few macros like :-
/cancelform
/cast cyclone
/cancelform
/cast entangling roots
/camcelform
/castsequence lifebloom, rejuvenation, lifebloom, lifebloom
Etc.
Just replace the regular toolbar spells with macro versions with /cancelform in front. Just that much quicker getting the cc's off.
This plus the pot/healthstone macros are getting me real keen to try things out :)
/cancelform
/cast cyclone
/cancelform
/cast entangling roots
/camcelform
/castsequence lifebloom, rejuvenation, lifebloom, lifebloom
Etc.
Just replace the regular toolbar spells with macro versions with /cancelform in front. Just that much quicker getting the cc's off.
This plus the pot/healthstone macros are getting me real keen to try things out :)
RareBeast wrote:
For arena, I think i'll be making a few macros like :-
/cancelform
/cast cyclone
/cancelform
/cast entangling roots
/camcelform
/castsequence lifebloom, rejuvenation, lifebloom, lifebloom
Etc.
Just replace the regular toolbar spells with macro versions with /cancelform in front. Just that much quicker getting the cc's off.
/cancelform
/cast cyclone
/cancelform
/cast entangling roots
/camcelform
/castsequence lifebloom, rejuvenation, lifebloom, lifebloom
Etc.
Just replace the regular toolbar spells with macro versions with /cancelform in front. Just that much quicker getting the cc's off.
Whoa. This confuzzles me greatly. Macros like those are what I USED to use to kludge the behavior that is now baked into the mechanics, and therefore don't need anymore. With the 2.3 change, you just click the button or key to cast the spell itself, and if you're in cat or bear form it instantly starts that cast while you're popping out to caster form. In fact, with just a little lag you're actually casting the spell while you're still in feral form on the screen.
Am I missing the point of your post? Or, with all due respect, are you perhaps missing the ubercool impact of the change?
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 2:25pm by JeeBar
No it is just me lol.
Having said that, I tried to cyclone while in cat form last night in arena and it didn't seem to work. It may be that due to lag it thought I was still moving a bit and it didn't work properly. I need to try it again under a bit less frantic circumstances to check :)
Having said that, I tried to cyclone while in cat form last night in arena and it didn't seem to work. It may be that due to lag it thought I was still moving a bit and it didn't work properly. I need to try it again under a bit less frantic circumstances to check :)
technically rare, if you want some true hotness, you could go:
/cancelform
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Healing Touch (whatever the variable for self is)
/cast Dire Bear Form
and you'll spam that and basically shift out of bear, heal to full, and then shift back into bear with barely an opening to be hit in caster form.
Edited, Nov 16th 2007 12:01am by Quor
/cancelform
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast Healing Touch (whatever the variable for self is)
/cast Dire Bear Form
and you'll spam that and basically shift out of bear, heal to full, and then shift back into bear with barely an opening to be hit in caster form.
Edited, Nov 16th 2007 12:01am by Quor
Quor, in the above macro, does a NS Healing Touch not activate the GCD? If so the shifting back will not work, if not: hey I learned something new! /bow
Indeed, shouldn't be able to make it work, at least not in a split second like the potion macro. :(
I was thinking about the /cancelform and came up with an idea. Taking in consideration that /cancelform no longer causes GCD and that you have the Furor talent, you could make a macro that would give you 10 rage or 40 energy instantly. Just make a macro like this:
/cancelform
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
And, voilá, 10 rage to your pool. Maybe it could more useful for the cat form whenever you use Ferocious Bite, since it virtually empty you energy pool and it would take some time to grab 40 energy again. Maybe it could diminishes the DPS diference between a good and well geared druid player anda a good and well geared rogue player. It would be something like *got 5 combo points, rip, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, ferocious bite/rip,* and so on and so forth.
I will look into it later and let you know if this really works.
/cancelform
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
And, voilá, 10 rage to your pool. Maybe it could more useful for the cat form whenever you use Ferocious Bite, since it virtually empty you energy pool and it would take some time to grab 40 energy again. Maybe it could diminishes the DPS diference between a good and well geared druid player anda a good and well geared rogue player. It would be something like *got 5 combo points, rip, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, shred/claw/rake, macro, ferocious bite/rip,* and so on and so forth.
I will look into it later and let you know if this really works.
Quote:
Taking in consideration that /cancelform no longer causes GCD
/cancelform never did triggered GCD but the way macros used to work it'd take an additional key press to do this and then move on to the next line in the macro. Now the game just processes it all at once. So the new "potion" macro could've been used before but you'd be in caster for a second or two which would get you killed. Also helps that they changed spells to be handled client-side, removes lag a lot.
/cancelform
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
and a similar cat form make a great "purge" button for movement impairing effects in PvP. A single button to escape from frost nova, slow, etc.
And all the oppostion will see is a slight puff of smoke as you instantaneously switch to caster and back to bear or cat :)
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
and a similar cat form make a great "purge" button for movement impairing effects in PvP. A single button to escape from frost nova, slow, etc.
And all the oppostion will see is a slight puff of smoke as you instantaneously switch to caster and back to bear or cat :)
yeah, it wouldnt be instant (or nearly so) like it is with the pot macro, but its still a one-button spammable shift-from-current-form-and-cast-NS+HT-then-shift-into-bear-form macro. or it should be anyway. i admit my macro ability is....wanting. a shift-modifier might need to be added in there somewhere, but the core of the idea remains the same.
ive also seen a "Feral Cat Charge" macro, that essentially casts feral charge, cancels form, and casts cat form so fast it looks like youre feral charging in cat. quite funny.
ive also seen a "Feral Cat Charge" macro, that essentially casts feral charge, cancels form, and casts cat form so fast it looks like youre feral charging in cat. quite funny.
I see some of you contribute your added AP to the HotW change,
I don't really remember my numbers pre-patch, but I noticed
my weapons with +Feral AP has increased by ~200.
Don't think my AP went up anything in particular apart from that, but
like I said... dont really remember...
I don't really remember my numbers pre-patch, but I noticed
my weapons with +Feral AP has increased by ~200.
Don't think my AP went up anything in particular apart from that, but
like I said... dont really remember...
I picked up 182 extra AP on my Terestian's and about 150-170 AP with the HotW changes.
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