I was only on for ten minutes to test the few patch things I was interested in. Sorry if this is a dupe but I don't see a 2.3 thread already.
- The change about clicking something that doesn't work in forms results in an absolutely instantaneous switch between forms, no moment of seeing caster. So much cooler/faster than a double click macro. Really fun to do on the run. Yay.
- If you click a spell, it starts IMMEDIATELY, while you're still an animal on screen for the split second it takes you to pop into caster form.
- As far as the HotW change, for my part my AP was boosted from 2070 to 2220 self-buffed. More than a little happy with that, obviously. A raider I chatted with said her was boosted from 2750 to 3000 unbuffed. (drooool...)
- Using my Drums of War in forms rocks the house. 60 ap is 60 ap, I'll take it. Can't wait to get Drums of Panic for tanking. Small little AoE fear FTW. : )
- Small thing, but it's SO cool that the AH actually orders/sorts EVERYTHING in a search, instead of breaking it up by page. That was lame.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 10:09am by JeeBar
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I'm loving the new patch too so far, especially the mail. I can't wait to get on my druid and she how she is now.
Last night, just spent time running around checking things out, getting new flight paths to old lands and checking out Mudsprocket..(it's aptly named too)
Last night, just spent time running around checking things out, getting new flight paths to old lands and checking out Mudsprocket..(it's aptly named too)
I've just played on my Pally yesterday cause my guild wanted to try a first ZA attempt. (GAWD it's harder than Kara)
I'm getting a few UI errors because of my non-updated addons, but I really dig the changes made in the patch. New SpellDmg is sweet, reduction of casting lag... Omg, tasty!! I can spam FoL so much more efficiently now!
I can't wait to try my Drood tonight. The XP boost will also help me bring him to 70 that much faster. I'm also really REALLY eager to try the new instant shifts! :3
Yay, 2.3!
I'm getting a few UI errors because of my non-updated addons, but I really dig the changes made in the patch. New SpellDmg is sweet, reduction of casting lag... Omg, tasty!! I can spam FoL so much more efficiently now!
I can't wait to try my Drood tonight. The XP boost will also help me bring him to 70 that much faster. I'm also really REALLY eager to try the new instant shifts! :3
Yay, 2.3!
Yer killin' me. The new forms thing sounds sooo nifty. I'm not allowed to play til I finish my NaNoWriMo draft. Can't wait.
I'm pretty super excited about being able to put 12 things in one mail message now.
I'm pretty super excited about being able to put 12 things in one mail message now.
I didn't get to play my druid last night, due to the late maintenance and groupies having other priorities, but I absolutely cannot wait at this point to dust her off and try some of the changes.
Maybe now I won't die like an idiot wondering why my rejuv didn't do anything while I'm still playing kitty! lol
Maybe now I won't die like an idiot wondering why my rejuv didn't do anything while I'm still playing kitty! lol
I was on my mage all night last night, but I am excited to start leveling my druid alt. The change form feature will be awesome and casting heals and stuff while soloing sounds like it will be way easier.
JeeBar wrote:
- Small thing, but it's SO cool that the AH actually orders/sorts EVERYTHING in a search, instead of breaking it up by page. That was lame.
omg I missed this in the patchnotes, that's totally awesome
Does anyone have a working one-click potion in forms macro? My old two-click one isn't working anymore.
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
Does anyone have a working one-click potion in forms macro? My old two-click one isn't working anymore.
I apologize for probably insulting you with this suggestion, but what the hell it's a new world, and maybe you didn't think of this...did you try just clicking the potion without a macro?
It seems like chugging a pot should count as "an ability that may only be used in caster form" in which case that should work. I didn't want to waste a pot just to test that, but sure am curious.
Oh yeah, unrelated entirely, I saw one of the engineer-crafted flying mounts in Shat...very VERY cool.
I can't believe more of you aren't bragging about, or expressing dissapointment in, the result of the change to Heart of the Wild! With all the concern about whether it was a nerf or buff, I figured druids everywhere would be popping in to cat form immediately upon login and checking their new AP number first thing.
It'd depend on how much of your AP is strength-based, of course, but from the two data points I have, it seems to have delivered an AP boost of nearly 10%. Shweeeeeeet.
It'd depend on how much of your AP is strength-based, of course, but from the two data points I have, it seems to have delivered an AP boost of nearly 10%. Shweeeeeeet.
Go to a lowbie vendor in some azeroth city that sells potions and buy one there, test with that. Saves your expensive stuff.
As for me, I just haven't had time to login and check out all these goodies :(
As for me, I just haven't had time to login and check out all these goodies :(
JeeBar wrote:
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
Does anyone have a working one-click potion in forms macro? My old two-click one isn't working anymore.
I apologize for probably insulting you with this suggestion, but what the hell it's a new world, and maybe you didn't think of this...did you try just clicking the potion without a macro?
It seems like chugging a pot should count as "an ability that may only be used in caster form" in which case that should work. I didn't want to waste a pot just to test that, but sure am curious.
Oh yeah, unrelated entirely, I saw one of the engineer-crafted flying mounts in Shat...very VERY cool.
It doesn't shift you.
Also, my computer is turned on, plugged in, and connected to the internet.
I'm looking for a macro to shift, potion, and shift back.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 11:19am by selebrin
Selebrin wrote:
JeeBar wrote:
did you try just clicking the potion without a macro?
It doesn't shift you.
Also, my computer is turned on, plugged in, and connected to the internet.
I'm looking for a macro to shift, potion, and shift back.
Bugger. Seems like an oversight. 2.3.1 anyone? : )
LOL at confirming the status of your system, glad to hear it.
I look forward to somebody providing a macro that works for pop out->chug pot->pop back. If you couldn't do it I certainly won't be able to figure it out, I'm noobtastic with my macroability. : (
I love the instant shift between forms but it apparently doesn't work from flight form. Cheetah yes, but bird, no. I didn't try any other spells or anything from flight form, so I don't know if it's general or limited to shape shifting.
I wonder if Bliz has a reason for that, or if it's just an oversight.
I wonder if Bliz has a reason for that, or if it's just an oversight.
Yeah, I'm working REALLY hard at work today, as you can tell.
Just had another realization. While I've been a pretty cranky druidic leatherworker since 350, due to the expense of leveling, I just got a LOT happier thanks to the changes to Drums.
If you don't know them:
- "Drums of War" boosts party AP by 60 for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Speed" boosts party movemement speed by 15% for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Restoration" gives 600 health and mana to all party members over 15 second
- "Drums of Battle" boosts party haste by 80 for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Panic" is an AoE 2-second fear of 5 enemies within 8 yds,
Some nice little buffs, and a 2-second AoE fear in bear form will be really handy for tanking.
They are crafted in the high 300s at like 5-point increments, and you need high-level leatherworking skill to use them. So there's some value to the otherwise thankless leatherworking profession. They have REALLY cheap mats, mostly just leather, unlike the other pieces in the 350-375 range which require primals and stuff.
I've been psyched since I saw the early patch notes which said we'd be able to use them in forms, but didn't grok the impact of two other changes: 1) reduced rep required to get the patterns, and 2) increased level range in which they deliver value.
Rep required to get the patterns was reduced all the way from Exalted to Honored, making it DRAMATICALLY easier to get the patterns, and the cheap mats mean the cost of leveling the rest of the way from 360 to 375 just dropped from over 1000 gold to basically free, and then it's just the matter of getting some nethers to get my primalstrike set. : )
I'm SO happy I didn't try to suck it up and level to 375 before this patch!!!
Just had another realization. While I've been a pretty cranky druidic leatherworker since 350, due to the expense of leveling, I just got a LOT happier thanks to the changes to Drums.
If you don't know them:
- "Drums of War" boosts party AP by 60 for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Speed" boosts party movemement speed by 15% for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Restoration" gives 600 health and mana to all party members over 15 second
- "Drums of Battle" boosts party haste by 80 for 30 seconds
- "Drums of Panic" is an AoE 2-second fear of 5 enemies within 8 yds,
Some nice little buffs, and a 2-second AoE fear in bear form will be really handy for tanking.
They are crafted in the high 300s at like 5-point increments, and you need high-level leatherworking skill to use them. So there's some value to the otherwise thankless leatherworking profession. They have REALLY cheap mats, mostly just leather, unlike the other pieces in the 350-375 range which require primals and stuff.
I've been psyched since I saw the early patch notes which said we'd be able to use them in forms, but didn't grok the impact of two other changes: 1) reduced rep required to get the patterns, and 2) increased level range in which they deliver value.
Rep required to get the patterns was reduced all the way from Exalted to Honored, making it DRAMATICALLY easier to get the patterns, and the cheap mats mean the cost of leveling the rest of the way from 360 to 375 just dropped from over 1000 gold to basically free, and then it's just the matter of getting some nethers to get my primalstrike set. : )
I'm SO happy I didn't try to suck it up and level to 375 before this patch!!!
Zalophus wrote:
I love the instant shift between forms but it apparently doesn't work from flight form. Cheetah yes, but bird, no. I didn't try any other spells or anything from flight form, so I don't know if it's general or limited to shape shifting.
I wonder if Bliz has a reason for that, or if it's just an oversight.
I wonder if Bliz has a reason for that, or if it's just an oversight.
Worked fine shifting from flight form for me...into both cat and bear.
You need to make sure you've allowed auto-dismount from flight. It's a toggle in Interface.
Ok the new potion in forms macro:
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
#show Super Healing Potion /cancelform /use Super Healing Potion /use Master Healthstone /use Charged Crystal Focus /cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
The change was the new /cancelform command, rather than casting Dire Bear Form to turn it on or off.
I have it set up to burn a potion and a healthstone at the same time, since both lack cooldown. I don't know if stopcasting is still needed but it doesn't harm apparently.
EDIT: /stopcasting is not needed. Fixed to reflect that.
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 1:43pm by selebrin
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Worked fine shifting from flight form for me...into both cat and bear.
Interesting. I tried it a couple of times last night and kept getting the "you are shapeshifted" or whatever message. I'll try again tonight.
Just wondering about a macro, with the new shapeshifting changes...
Would i be able to make a macro like
/Cast Rejuvenation (Rank 3)
/Cast Claw (Rank 3)
Would that shift me out of cast form, heal me, then go back into cat form?
Would i be able to make a macro like
/Cast Rejuvenation (Rank 3)
/Cast Claw (Rank 3)
Would that shift me out of cast form, heal me, then go back into cat form?
I read on Emmeralds forums that someone has used the potion macro while tanking and it worked perfectly :)
My unbuffed AP went from about 2800 to 3150 with the patch :)
We got the Bear boss down in ZA on our 2nd try (silence got us the 1st attempt).
Then we made our way to the lynx boss, the trash was ok, but then the door to his area bugged on us and didn't open again so we moved on to the eagle boss.
The trash "gauntlet" to this boss is crazy. You pull 2 mobs, then 2 come from behind as well as heaps of eagles that need to be AoE'd. Every minute or so, another 2 mobs come from behind and more eagles continually turn up. You have to kill the 1st 2 elites then continue up the hill and grab the next 2 and so on till you pull the last trash guy before the boss, all the time killing the eagles and keeping the mobs behind under control - a real test for the group.
We then had 2 attempts on that boss before having to call it for the night. It was a lot of fun despite many deaths. There is very little information on the trash mobs and their abilities on Wowwiki or wowhead etc and it was fun exploring and testing to find strats for the pulls that would work.
Oh and I got [wowitem=33211]Bladeangel's Money Belt[/wowitem] from the 1st boss :) Loot always helps :)
Also - there is a quest you complete after the 1st boss (pick it up outside before starting) that has a reward of a 20 slot bag!!!! I already had all 18's but the extra 2 slots for a druid with lots of gear is always welcome :)
My unbuffed AP went from about 2800 to 3150 with the patch :)
We got the Bear boss down in ZA on our 2nd try (silence got us the 1st attempt).
Then we made our way to the lynx boss, the trash was ok, but then the door to his area bugged on us and didn't open again so we moved on to the eagle boss.
The trash "gauntlet" to this boss is crazy. You pull 2 mobs, then 2 come from behind as well as heaps of eagles that need to be AoE'd. Every minute or so, another 2 mobs come from behind and more eagles continually turn up. You have to kill the 1st 2 elites then continue up the hill and grab the next 2 and so on till you pull the last trash guy before the boss, all the time killing the eagles and keeping the mobs behind under control - a real test for the group.
We then had 2 attempts on that boss before having to call it for the night. It was a lot of fun despite many deaths. There is very little information on the trash mobs and their abilities on Wowwiki or wowhead etc and it was fun exploring and testing to find strats for the pulls that would work.
Oh and I got [wowitem=33211]Bladeangel's Money Belt[/wowitem] from the 1st boss :) Loot always helps :)
Also - there is a quest you complete after the 1st boss (pick it up outside before starting) that has a reward of a 20 slot bag!!!! I already had all 18's but the extra 2 slots for a druid with lots of gear is always welcome :)
RuinatorVek wrote:
Just wondering about a macro, with the new shapeshifting changes...
Would i be able to make a macro like
/Cast Rejuvenation (Rank 3)
/Cast Claw (Rank 3)
Would that shift me out of cast form, heal me, then go back into cat form?
Would i be able to make a macro like
/Cast Rejuvenation (Rank 3)
/Cast Claw (Rank 3)
Would that shift me out of cast form, heal me, then go back into cat form?
It shouldn't work based on the description of the change.
"If you are in a shapeshift form and try to use an ability that may only be used in caster form, you will leave the form and use that ability."
Doesn't say anything about being in caster form and trying to use an ability that may only be used in feral form.
Well I just tried to use Enrage while in Caster form, and it gave me the same error message it always did. If you think logically, it makes sense.
Shifting out does not trigger the GCD, so it's possible to use any ability usable in Caster form.
The macro used to drink a potion does not trigger the GCD (only the potion CD) so it's possible to instantly shift back to Bear. However, casting a spell like Rejuv will trigger the GCD and would make you unable to automatically go back to a Feral form.
Hope that was clear enough, it's late. ^_^;;
EDIT: Forgot why I actually came here to post so late.
Do any other Tauren Druid noticed the change in Cat Form skin? The jaw is narrower, the body looks a bit larger, the mane got bigger and I *think* our legs are shorter or at least we're closer to the ground while just standing around.
Maybe I'm too tired and am imagining things, and I don't have old screenies to compare to so... anyone else noticed anything?
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 10:54pm by Selverein
Shifting out does not trigger the GCD, so it's possible to use any ability usable in Caster form.
The macro used to drink a potion does not trigger the GCD (only the potion CD) so it's possible to instantly shift back to Bear. However, casting a spell like Rejuv will trigger the GCD and would make you unable to automatically go back to a Feral form.
Hope that was clear enough, it's late. ^_^;;
EDIT: Forgot why I actually came here to post so late.
Do any other Tauren Druid noticed the change in Cat Form skin? The jaw is narrower, the body looks a bit larger, the mane got bigger and I *think* our legs are shorter or at least we're closer to the ground while just standing around.
Maybe I'm too tired and am imagining things, and I don't have old screenies to compare to so... anyone else noticed anything?
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 10:54pm by Selverein
That was a known change. Here is a comparison of the two cat models from the WorldofRaids site.
New and old horde kitty
New and old horde kitty
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Worked fine shifting from flight form for me...into both cat and bear.
I predict a RAWRBOMB macro with insurance straight away.
Not even a difficult one:
Quote:
/cast Feral Charge
If I read the notes right, that'll shift to Bear and RAWRBOMB if in range, and if out of range, no more RAWRsplats!
Sadly, no.
As I was trying to say earlier, shifting out of a form does not trigger the global CD, but shifting into anything does.
So basically you can now shift from a form to another, like Flight to Bear in your example, but you will not be able to use a skill right away, you'll have to wait on the GCD.
You, however, make a /castsequence macro for you to spam, but it will remain as risky as it has always been. The shift from Flight to Bear will be instant and will require one less key press, however.
And as for Cat Form, I'm glad to see I wasn't crazy. I don't really keep up with sites like worldofraids and usually just check the notes so I was wondering if it was known or not, silly me.
I'm glad for the change, except for ONE thing! Do *not* shift into Cat form and /dance or sit down. Just... don't. It's like Blizz forgot to check that out after they were done remodeling. =/
As I was trying to say earlier, shifting out of a form does not trigger the global CD, but shifting into anything does.
So basically you can now shift from a form to another, like Flight to Bear in your example, but you will not be able to use a skill right away, you'll have to wait on the GCD.
You, however, make a /castsequence macro for you to spam, but it will remain as risky as it has always been. The shift from Flight to Bear will be instant and will require one less key press, however.
And as for Cat Form, I'm glad to see I wasn't crazy. I don't really keep up with sites like worldofraids and usually just check the notes so I was wondering if it was known or not, silly me.
I'm glad for the change, except for ONE thing! Do *not* shift into Cat form and /dance or sit down. Just... don't. It's like Blizz forgot to check that out after they were done remodeling. =/
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