2.3 = dummy proofing tanking?? d~(^.^)~bFollow

Well. It's patch day.

I was not interested in the abilites "While Sitting" WTF is that about? lol This however could make all my doubts as a Warrior tank go away





I don't know about you, but the only thing I've had a problem with that made me feel like a horrid tank was Fear(s). This pretty much just set me in line for 'Tank of the Year' award

I can't wait to get on my Warrior and LFG for SV or SL.

Now the Cons...

Hit rating for Taunt to land?? I know my Tanking gear does not offer much in the +hit department... Some, but not a lot. Wonder if that will end up using some of our "Stamina" gem slots, with +hit stuff?

Honestly, who cares if you're standing or sitting? Anyone know the reasoning for this? I think it's just a 'filler change' since most other classes are getting loaded with new changes.

And finally the "Huh??"
Maybe I'm slow, but I think this is written like legal mumble-jumble. I can't make out what this means... anyone give me a example? I have Devastate lol, don't want to use it wrong.



Edited, Nov 13th 2007 11:01am by GYFFORD

Basically, you can take Sunder off your bars (unless you use the Sunder-on-CC'd mobs trick/macro). The first five times you Devastate it will hit as it normally does _and_ apply a Sunder Armor debuff, with all the threat as if you'd done both yourself. After all five stacks of SA are up Devastate goes back to working like it always did before.

Devastate is basically unchanged, except that in addition to everything that used to happen when you used Devastate, additionally it will apply 1 Sunder Armor to the target.

So, instead of applying 5 Sunders then Devastate, you can just keep using Devastate.

Furthermore, once 5 Sunders are on, you need not throw 1 Sunder in every so often to keep it from expiring. Instead, you can just keep using Devastate and it will always renew the duration of Sunder Armor.


Except that it also renews your Sunder duration :P

Edited, Nov 13th 2007 11:08am by duvar

Devastate has _always_ renewed SA. It just wouldn't increase the # of stacks.

EDIT:


Until there's a 5x stack of Sunders, Devastate is now causing the threat as if you used Devastate _and_ Sunder Armor. This gives a huge boost to burst TPS at the start of a fight for Warriors, since you're getting a 'free' 301 base threat debuff in addition to whatever threat Devastate causes.

Edited, Nov 13th 2007 11:28am by RPZip

Presumably the threat of Devastate should now be equal to S+D, where S is the old threat from Sunder Armor, and D is the old threat from Devastate. In which case there's no way a single Sunder should ever be better than Devastate, because you're getting the threat of Sunder plus the threat of Devastate.

I think I saw confirmation of that on a test realm forum somewhere, but I can't be 100% sure.

They removed this a while back and with 2.3 are reincorporating it. Want a free enrage? Hit x. Or your sit-bound key. Correct me if im wrong but attacks made on you while sitting are always crits/crushing?

Just as a reference, Taunt actually used to be considered a SPELL. This is why it always used to have such a dreadful resist rate on bosses (spells have like a 17% base resist rate on bosses). +Spell Hit gear actually used to help you land taunt (but it was stupid to use, because nobody relies on taunt to hold aggro) Now that it counts as physical, it will be more likely to land on bosses (default miss rate is debated between 5-7.4%) and will also be further lowered by any +hit gear (or talents) that you happen to have.

It's more a possible buff than a nerf.

The Devastate change means one more ability to be added under left hand control. Wonderful things will happen to a lot of Average Tanks.

Fear Ward being given to all Priests, not just dwarves, will kindle a lot of wonderful classic Warrior-Priest Combo's. And a lot fewer wipes against Fearing Mobs. The removal of the Aggro Dump after Fearing practically guarantees a lot more Comedy Nights in absolute safety.

These are the major buffs to the class that we've been waiting for, by making us work so much better. To quote the popular meme: This is Sparta!;

Im pretty sure that it always would keep attacking you (feared by lvl 70 locks ftl)
and unless they attacked the mob, and pulled it off you by throwing out a lot of dps.
So in that regard nothing has changed.
Please correct me if i am mistaken.
And the taunt now being more effective from +hit is more of a buff, for the reasons listed

Thanks Ialaman

since taunt is no longer a spell ( i dont believe challenging shout is anymore either)
then when your silenced you can still throw up taunt on any mobs that are getting away from you. This patch just made tanking a helluva lot easier.