So far we think that BM is the right one for PvP.But now with the instant wyvern sting should considered SVs as the most appropriate? Scatter shot,wyvern sting,traps or BM dps and intimidation and the beast within?
So far i am BM but lately i have serious problems in kiting.Wing clip doesnt do nothing anymore..especially with warriors and rogues..the 3 sec of intimidation the same..when i fight my movement is down to 80% allways..cant go to a range distance!!!!So my point is if we use scater shot and then wyvern sting. we have the time to go to a range distance...hit put a frost trap..and continue!Or still we should stick in BM?
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Erm, who says BM is the only PvP option? For 2vs2 it is quite nice with 18 seconds of complete CC invulnerability, but the other speccs have very high viabilities in both Arena and BG PvP. It's been this way for quite some time.
Personally, I'd go Survival, but that's just because I am a mainly PvE Hunter with a penchant for CC in both solo and instance/raid situations. For pure PvP, I just might go for Marksman. Silencing Shot is nice, and the same goes for burst DPS.
But sure, Survival is definitely viable as a PvP specc these days.
Personally, I'd go Survival, but that's just because I am a mainly PvE Hunter with a penchant for CC in both solo and instance/raid situations. For pure PvP, I just might go for Marksman. Silencing Shot is nice, and the same goes for burst DPS.
But sure, Survival is definitely viable as a PvP specc these days.
North, I love you. I'm pretty sure you're going to give Caldone a heart-attack, lol. =)
Basically, what North said. All three have their strengths and weaknesses.
Basically, what North said. All three have their strengths and weaknesses.
The BM as the pvp special, i take it from the forums..I did a recearch and also i ask about pvp and most of you tell me that..Anyway,more and more,i have to fight with warriors and rogues(in Bgs you see many hordes warriors and rogues).If a see a rogue first i have some good chances..But with warriors!!oh my god!charge me and then i cant kite whatever i try!logical they have more and better than a hunter abilities to stay in melee distance.(intervene,intercept,hamstring,thunder clap etc).And rogues with the bloody crippling poison,fleet footed.sprint,vanish etc...cant kite anymore!!!!So any strategy on this?
True survival is viable still in pvp but I havn't had near as much fun as when I was BM. I really don't have much to offer pvp wise though with no improved traps and no wyvern sting.
I supose there is a pvp survival build and a pve one. I'm deffinately the pve.
I supose there is a pvp survival build and a pve one. I'm deffinately the pve.
I'll put my question in this one, since it has to do with Arena.
I'm thinking of getting an Arena Pet. I'm not really sure of what to get though. I've narrowed it down to 3, based on abilities, but my lack of Arena experience doesn't give me much to base my decission on.
First is the ravager, which has the highest DPS of all pets. Obviously more damage is a good thing in arena, but will it seems that a ravager really shines as top dps in long raid fights. I'm not so sure if it would be a noticeable difference in a short quick arena fight.
Second is a boar because of charge. I can see some good utalization for this. Charge a warrior, putting him in combat, making him incapable of charging one of our team. Charge a healer, keeping him from casting a heal. Basically another stun to add to Intimidation.
Third is an Owl for screech. I see screech as pretty usefull in supressing some AP from warriors, rogues, and druids, which could be pretty usefull. I'm not sure how much AP is reduced by though to say how usefull it would be.
Your comments and suggestions would be apreciated, just remember this is mainly for an Arena Pet, with some BGs thrown in there.
I'm thinking of getting an Arena Pet. I'm not really sure of what to get though. I've narrowed it down to 3, based on abilities, but my lack of Arena experience doesn't give me much to base my decission on.
First is the ravager, which has the highest DPS of all pets. Obviously more damage is a good thing in arena, but will it seems that a ravager really shines as top dps in long raid fights. I'm not so sure if it would be a noticeable difference in a short quick arena fight.
Second is a boar because of charge. I can see some good utalization for this. Charge a warrior, putting him in combat, making him incapable of charging one of our team. Charge a healer, keeping him from casting a heal. Basically another stun to add to Intimidation.
Third is an Owl for screech. I see screech as pretty usefull in supressing some AP from warriors, rogues, and druids, which could be pretty usefull. I'm not sure how much AP is reduced by though to say how usefull it would be.
Your comments and suggestions would be apreciated, just remember this is mainly for an Arena Pet, with some BGs thrown in there.
I use owl for screech..good for warriors ,rogues and especially other Bm hunters
For PvP (Arena) I would probably go for the Boar, or a Cat/Ravager. As a Nightelf I am fond of using Shadowmeld strategically, and so a cat with Prowl can definitely be useful at times. Still, the sheer utility of a Boar is not to be underestimated. Interrupting Heals/Aimed Shots/Pyroblasts or any other massive spell can be a fight-turner in PvP.
But just make sure you can compensate for the loss of DPS from the pet by having high DPS yourself.
In fact, strike the Ravager from my list. High DPS, sure. But not enough to truly make a difference in the fight. A Cat will provide more than close enough DPS while having access to Prowl which can be dangerous indeed if used correctly.
Owls... well, I've never really been one for the AoE pets. A big flappy pet in your eyes can definitely be annoying though, and the debuff isn't entirely pointless. What I wonder, is if that debuff removes stealth? And what is the range of that debuff?
If Screech has enough range, and decloaks Rogues/Druids, it could open up for some utility as well. Hmm... I am going to have to test that one day.
But just make sure you can compensate for the loss of DPS from the pet by having high DPS yourself.
In fact, strike the Ravager from my list. High DPS, sure. But not enough to truly make a difference in the fight. A Cat will provide more than close enough DPS while having access to Prowl which can be dangerous indeed if used correctly.
Owls... well, I've never really been one for the AoE pets. A big flappy pet in your eyes can definitely be annoying though, and the debuff isn't entirely pointless. What I wonder, is if that debuff removes stealth? And what is the range of that debuff?
If Screech has enough range, and decloaks Rogues/Druids, it could open up for some utility as well. Hmm... I am going to have to test that one day.
Never thought of that..pls if you test it,let us know..thanks
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Never thought of that..pls if you test it,let us know..thanks
I just can't bring myself to own a cat. To many people walking around with felines, that just make me thing, ehh another cat. So I just can't bring myself to owning one, even with their high attack modifier. The personal preference kicks in on that one.
It's hard enough for me to be willing to pick up a pig, but I'm a willing to take that step.
I have no problems with Owls. How effective screech would be in Arena is pretty interesting, and I would like to know.
Of course I have a good margin of time to find out, because I am not close to being geared well enough to fully participate in my Arena team. Right now I am a stand in filler spot, on a not so great team, but it's still fun. Plus Arena is really only a secondary thing for me. I really want to focus on getting to raid and heroics.
It's hard enough for me to be willing to pick up a pig, but I'm a willing to take that step.
I have no problems with Owls. How effective screech would be in Arena is pretty interesting, and I would like to know.
Of course I have a good margin of time to find out, because I am not close to being geared well enough to fully participate in my Arena team. Right now I am a stand in filler spot, on a not so great team, but it's still fun. Plus Arena is really only a secondary thing for me. I really want to focus on getting to raid and heroics.
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About PVP arena i will go for Scorpid! why because is great to apply a poison dot that prevents rogues from vanishing and keep adding a dot to dospellers
Scorpids also got high armor, hides viper sting when draining (good vs healers), hides slow poison from snakes.
Scorpids also got high armor, hides viper sting when draining (good vs healers), hides slow poison from snakes.
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Still, the sheer utility of a Boar is not to be underestimated. Interrupting Heals/Aimed Shots/Pyroblasts or any other massive spell can be a fight-turner in PvP.
You are confusing the Boar's Charge with the Druid's "Feral Charge". Two completely different abilities. The Feral Charge has an interrupting effect to it, the Boar's charge however does not. It only adds the immobilization effect, which lasts all of 1 second. I find it to be far more useful in PVE situations then in the arena settings. However, I find it useful against warriors who love to charge in, because if you time it just right, the boar will charge at them, hit them right as they charge toward you, and bug them out so the warrior is now back at his original location, 20 yards away from you with the boar pet on them. It's as if you've never been charged.
As far as pets go in the arena, this may sound stupid, but I find that a Wind Serpent is by far one of the best pets as Survival Build. Having 30% or more crit with Go For The Throat on a Wind Serpent = Constant Damage from your pet from 20 yards away. He doesn't even need to be close to hit them, which makes him one of the better pets for DPS in the arena. Give him Dive and you're set.
There's a nice Wind Serpent you can get in Netherstorm that's level 69 if you're worried about finding one closer to your level.
I have yet to test a Serpent (snake type pet) by itself with the poison spit, but I would imagine the same results would apply as long as you have Go For The Throat. Mostly I am reluctant to test this pet out because I think the only one I can get is lvl 60 from ZG. I also haven't really researched these type of pets yet.
Whats your arena partner synn?
Ive heard scorpids are decent since they can stack poisons up and buffer cleansing. So like, a cleanser will try to go through all the dumb scorpid debuffs, snake trap debuffs (if you use that trap) to get to the important debuffs.
Unless they have changed that since the last time i heard it.
edit: saw your armory, 5v5, i think a scorpid or any poisoning pet would be best for there personally.
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 10:49am by KTurner
Ive heard scorpids are decent since they can stack poisons up and buffer cleansing. So like, a cleanser will try to go through all the dumb scorpid debuffs, snake trap debuffs (if you use that trap) to get to the important debuffs.
Unless they have changed that since the last time i heard it.
edit: saw your armory, 5v5, i think a scorpid or any poisoning pet would be best for there personally.
Edited, Nov 15th 2007 10:49am by KTurner
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