One handed spec is better than Reckoning because it is not situational and it increases ALL of your damage by 5%.
I'm not saying that you should avoid stamina to focus on those stats. It's just that as you get better and better gear, hit rating just starts getting included in the gear. Sure with gems you can determine what you want, but I can't take the hit rating out of gear and replace it with stamina.
AD is a move that like I said is situational. Your raid shouldn't have to depend on it to complete the raid. At best, AD will give you maybe one more hit before you are dead.
And I think it's pretty well understood that when we say the talent becomes useless we are referring to specific points at level 70 progression. For instance, I would never call Reckoning completely useless, it just becomes more and more useless as you gear up.
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Oh I agree, 1H spec should be a must. The increase to Consecration and Judgement damage alone is worth the points, improving Seals and white damage is just gravy on the chips.
Thing is, you can take both.
In Retribution, your secondary tree, the only thing you really need is Deflection, and to a lesser extent the new Pursuit of Justice for positioning. As a result you can happily overload the Prot tree, although it does mean you have to choose between Anticipation and Toughness.
This quick and dirty build is an example.
And yeah, I left out Shield Spec. Even the best shields dont block that much damage, youre talking mathematically insignificant figures here. Increasing f*ck all by 30% is just 130% of f*ck all mitigation. Shields are for getting rid of crushing blows, not absorbing tiny amounts of damage using a mechanic unchanged since beta.
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Edited, Nov 14th 2007 3:11am by Sinstralis
Thing is, you can take both.
In Retribution, your secondary tree, the only thing you really need is Deflection, and to a lesser extent the new Pursuit of Justice for positioning. As a result you can happily overload the Prot tree, although it does mean you have to choose between Anticipation and Toughness.
This quick and dirty build is an example.
And yeah, I left out Shield Spec. Even the best shields dont block that much damage, youre talking mathematically insignificant figures here. Increasing f*ck all by 30% is just 130% of f*ck all mitigation. Shields are for getting rid of crushing blows, not absorbing tiny amounts of damage using a mechanic unchanged since beta.
~sins
Edited, Nov 14th 2007 3:11am by Sinstralis
Sinstralis wrote:
By the way, whichever fool genuinely believes Improved Devotional Aura beats Redoubt needs his head examined. Redoubt isnt just about damage mitigation its about *threat* too. If Redoubt is up, and you can put up Holy Shield too, you're looking at close to 80% block with good gear, 85% if you have the Sha'tar libram. That's a hell of a lot of Holy Shield threat.
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You gotta understand though that you don't actually use all that block % because much of it will fall off the damage chart: the higher your other avoidance stats, the less of that Block you will actually use. Where Redoubt is still nice to have is between casts of Holy Shield (lag, human reaction time, etc..), when you are silenced and can't cast Holy Shield, and when Holy Shield charges are all used up, but the CD has not expired yet. "If" Redoubt procs during these times then you are still able to have that extra 30% Block, and if your gear is good enough, still be uncrushable despite not having Holy Shield active.
Regardless, it still far superior to Improved Devo Aura :)
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And yeah, I left out Shield Spec. Even the best shields dont block that much damage, youre talking mathematically insignificant figures here. Increasing f*ck all by 30% is just 130% of f*ck all mitigation. Shields are for getting rid of crushing blows, not absorbing tiny amounts of damage using a mechanic unchanged since beta.
Like with all things, it adds up. If someone has 250 block value pre-talents. Then the talent gives you another 75 block. Sure it's not going to mean the difference between life or death, but if you block 20 times, thats a good 1500 damage you didn't take, which is one less heal you had to take. As your block value increases so does the benefit of the talent. Not all of the block value comes just from the shield, it is included in a lot of tanking armor as well. It's also only 3 talents so it's not a very huge investment.
it would be nice if block value actually scaled up nicer.
Not taking shield spec also indicates a geometric degree of fail.
i love my 2.3 build for heroics. it's working out nicely!
newfangle wrote:
Not taking shield spec also indicates a geometric degree of fail.
im kind of confused what you mean by geometric, so i looked it up and im still kind of confused by what you mean by geometric. so i figured you may have ment exponential or something of that nature, but you've used geometric so many times that im beginning to think either you or perhaps I dont really know what geometric means.
please explain.
Edit: spelling
Edited, Nov 19th 2007 10:15am by RuenBahamut
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