As the title states, I'm in need of a bit of help.
My key-bindings have been working fine for PVE, but I find that PVP is a different deal. I tried to construct a macro that would allow me to spam sinister strike and also incorporate riposte... and it went a little something like this:
/cast sinister strike
/cast riposte
but from what I can see, riposte is not casting (I can still see it lit up on the other icon I still have bound to a #). Is there something I'm doing that might prevent it from working properly? EG, should I reverse the order?
I'm also curious what macros if any you guys have come up with or seen that might be beneficial. I seem to remember Nooble talking about a pickpocket/cheap-shot macro... but I'm sure there are others, as well.
Anyway, I'm sorry if this question seems a bit ridiculous; I have limited experience with macros and have attempted to read up on them, and yet I still find myself lacking in my ability to successfully create and/or implement them.
Thanks in advance, guys!
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Hey man!
You should check out Wowwiki.com, it's a great website with most info you need on WoW and stuff ^^.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_rogues#Sinister_Strike_.3D.3E_Riposte_version_A
I found some useful macro's for rogues, and there are 3 examples for a SS/riposte single button macro ^^
You should check out Wowwiki.com, it's a great website with most info you need on WoW and stuff ^^.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_rogues#Sinister_Strike_.3D.3E_Riposte_version_A
I found some useful macro's for rogues, and there are 3 examples for a SS/riposte single button macro ^^
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(Sorry for doublepost ><)
I noticed you wanted tips for other nice macros too.
Well, I have a few.
This one is very beneficial for me, as I'm a sword rogue. So; I want the high burst dmg of Ambush, but still get the sustained dps of my swords, so: I make a macro that casts Ambush, then instantly changes back to my sword in my main hand: (you should know that slot 16 is main hand and slot 17 is offhand)
/cast Ambush
/equipslot 16 <My sword's name, in this case Thrash Blade.>
However, if you are out of range when you cast it it will simply change to your sword, and no ambush =/.
Of course, I also made one to equip my dagger:
/equipslot 16 <My dagger's name, in this case Satyr's Lash>
This one is for gouging and instantly applying a bandage:
/cast Gouge
/use [target=player] <Name of your bandage>
(Remember that the names of items are not to be put inside brackets, I only made it that way to simplify =))
Hope this all helps =)
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 10:03am by Nettak
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 10:05am by Nettak
I noticed you wanted tips for other nice macros too.
Well, I have a few.
This one is very beneficial for me, as I'm a sword rogue. So; I want the high burst dmg of Ambush, but still get the sustained dps of my swords, so: I make a macro that casts Ambush, then instantly changes back to my sword in my main hand: (you should know that slot 16 is main hand and slot 17 is offhand)
/cast Ambush
/equipslot 16 <My sword's name, in this case Thrash Blade.>
However, if you are out of range when you cast it it will simply change to your sword, and no ambush =/.
Of course, I also made one to equip my dagger:
/equipslot 16 <My dagger's name, in this case Satyr's Lash>
This one is for gouging and instantly applying a bandage:
/cast Gouge
/use [target=player] <Name of your bandage>
(Remember that the names of items are not to be put inside brackets, I only made it that way to simplify =))
Hope this all helps =)
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 10:03am by Nettak
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 10:05am by Nettak
Stealth/Vanish:
/cast [combat] Vanish
/cast [nocombat] Stealth
/cast [modifier:alt]
Will Vanish if you're fighting and Stealth if not. However, in PvP, you can Gouge, hold alt down and spam it to restealth!
/cast [combat] Vanish
/cast [nocombat] Stealth
/cast [modifier:alt]
Will Vanish if you're fighting and Stealth if not. However, in PvP, you can Gouge, hold alt down and spam it to restealth!
Sorry to be a party spoiler with my negative comments, but I must be honest and say the following:
/cast Ambush
/equipslot 16 <My sword's name, in this case Thrash Blade.>
However, if you are out of range when you cast it it will simply change to your sword, and no ambush =/.
Ambush is a trash attack that you shouldn't use after you get CS (or Garrote depending on the situation). So don't bother getting a macro to switch weapons (especially since switching weapons in fight triggers a 1 sec GCD).
Even more true due to the problem mentioned by Nettak when you're out of range. Really annoying. I've used such a macro only one my reroll before getting CS, otherwise forget it.
This one is for gouging and instantly applying a bandage:
/cast Gouge
/use [target=player] <Name of your bandage>
I wouldn't do that. There will be times when you want to Gouge without bandaging. If you press this key and stop bandaging, this prevent further bandaging for 1 full min. Can mean death in pvp.
Really, don't use such combos macro. Just learn to hit the proper keys after each other fast enough and you are fast enough and more flexible.
nostra
Nettak wrote:
/cast Ambush
/equipslot 16 <My sword's name, in this case Thrash Blade.>
However, if you are out of range when you cast it it will simply change to your sword, and no ambush =/.
Ambush is a trash attack that you shouldn't use after you get CS (or Garrote depending on the situation). So don't bother getting a macro to switch weapons (especially since switching weapons in fight triggers a 1 sec GCD).
Even more true due to the problem mentioned by Nettak when you're out of range. Really annoying. I've used such a macro only one my reroll before getting CS, otherwise forget it.
Nettak wrote:
This one is for gouging and instantly applying a bandage:
/cast Gouge
/use [target=player] <Name of your bandage>
I wouldn't do that. There will be times when you want to Gouge without bandaging. If you press this key and stop bandaging, this prevent further bandaging for 1 full min. Can mean death in pvp.
Really, don't use such combos macro. Just learn to hit the proper keys after each other fast enough and you are fast enough and more flexible.
nostra
ecirphsoj wrote:
Stealth/Vanish:
/cast [combat] Vanish
/cast [nocombat] Stealth
/cast [modifier:alt]
Will Vanish if you're fighting and Stealth if not. However, in PvP, you can Gouge, hold alt down and spam it to restealth!
/cast [combat] Vanish
/cast [nocombat] Stealth
/cast [modifier:alt]
Will Vanish if you're fighting and Stealth if not. However, in PvP, you can Gouge, hold alt down and spam it to restealth!
Again, I wouldn't use such a combo macro. Vanish is a precious thing that you don't want to spoil accidentally.
When I am close to the end of the restealth CD, I spamm to restealth ASAP. With your macro, there is the risk to hit the key a split second too early and vanish instead of restealthing. Pitty.
As I said above, use one key per action and learn to hit the appropriate key at the right time. With practice you're fast enough so that such combos macro are not needed and you avoid any risk of doing sth that you don't want to.
nostra
Thanks for the replies, guys. I'll probably just stick to the SS/riposte macro for now. =) I can always pick up some others later, but I suppose that was my main concern.
This has been really helpful =)
This has been really helpful =)
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Ambush is a trash attack that you shouldn't use after you get CS (or Garrote depending on the situation). So don't bother getting a macro to switch weapons (especially since switching weapons in fight triggers a 1 sec GCD).
This isnt true in all situations. On my 29 rogue I have both Cheap Shot and Ambush. However, MY main opener is ambush (unless my target is running in an improved state[Ghost Wolf, Traveling Form, etc.] then I use Cheap Shot). With regular Ambush Crits (Yes, its talented) of 800+, which is around 1\2 - 3\4 of Normals players HP at that point, it is a VERY viable option for an opener.
I'm not saying that Ambush is 'teh s3x' and should be used on every occassion. What I am saying is that you would be a fool to not see where it can be used and to just throw it away.
Edited, Nov 12th 2007 8:37am by Serevixx
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Buddy, you're a twink (it's mentioned in your sig) so what you do at lvl 29 is really not relevant for 99% of the players. It's quite notorious that "ZOMG ONE-SHOOT" build can work (or nearly) at lower levels but that's not what we're talking about here.
When we're discussing without additional precision, we mean for lvl 70 characters (that's where the "real" pvp takes place anyway).
nostra
Buddy, you're a twink (it's mentioned in your sig) so what you do at lvl 29 is really not relevant for 99% of the players. It's quite notorious that "ZOMG ONE-SHOOT" build can work (or nearly) at lower levels but that's not what we're talking about here.
When we're discussing without additional precision, we mean for lvl 70 characters (that's where the "real" pvp takes place anyway).
nostra
Quote:
When we're discussing without additional precision, we mean for lvl 70 characters (that's where the "real" character, skill, ability and dedication takes place anyway).
See what I did there?
Useful Macro:
#showtooltip
/cast [modifier:Alt] Ambush, [modifier:Ctrl] Garrote, [nomodifier] Cheap Shot
This is a very, very simple marco that basically does the following:
If you hit alt, it ambushes. If you hit ctrl, it garrotes. If you just click it, it cheap shots.
Gives you all three openers in one macro. Obviously you can add to this as well, or change things. modifier:shift can be added if I am not mistaken but I don't normally use that in macros.
#showtooltip
/cast [modifier:Alt] Ambush, [modifier:Ctrl] Garrote, [nomodifier] Cheap Shot
This is a very, very simple marco that basically does the following:
If you hit alt, it ambushes. If you hit ctrl, it garrotes. If you just click it, it cheap shots.
Gives you all three openers in one macro. Obviously you can add to this as well, or change things. modifier:shift can be added if I am not mistaken but I don't normally use that in macros.
nostraaa wrote:
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Buddy, you're a twink (it's mentioned in your sig) so what you do at lvl 29 is really not relevant for 99% of the players. It's quite notorious that "ZOMG ONE-SHOOT" build can work (or nearly) at lower levels but that's not what we're talking about here.
When we're discussing without additional precision, we mean for lvl 70 characters (that's where the "real" pvp takes place anyway).
nostra
Buddy, you're a twink (it's mentioned in your sig) so what you do at lvl 29 is really not relevant for 99% of the players. It's quite notorious that "ZOMG ONE-SHOOT" build can work (or nearly) at lower levels but that's not what we're talking about here.
When we're discussing without additional precision, we mean for lvl 70 characters (that's where the "real" pvp takes place anyway).
nostra
You said ambush is trash anytime after you have CS... that's like level 24+ if I remember correctly.
That's a sweeping generalization that is entirely untrue, there are a lot of situations that warrant an ambush, for example when fighting a mage.
I used to also use ambush when grinding/questing sometimes. Against mobs 1-2 levels lower than me, I never really needed the 4 seconds of damage reduction.
Mageoken wrote:
That's a sweeping generalization that is entirely untrue, there are a lot of situations that warrant an ambush, for example when fighting a mage.
How would using Ambush on a mage be superior to using CS or Garrote?[/quote]
Mageoken wrote:
I used to also use ambush when grinding/questing sometimes. Against mobs 1-2 levels lower than me, I never really needed the 4 seconds of damage reduction.
I'm not saying you can't use it. I'm just saying you're better off using another opener. Against a mob, using CS just means you start with (let's say you're Muti) a nice damage (Muti) which is more or less like Ambush but also 4-5 CPs as opposed to just 1-2.
It's been discussed many times on this board that Ambush is generally speaking the worst opener you can use (which doesn't mean that there are no exceptions). But you're free to use it if it pleases you.
And you're most welcome to demonstrate how I'm wrong with this view. I'm always grateful to those making me a better rogue.
nostra
Pre-garrote silence (lvl 61?), you don't garrote mages. You generally ambush them, unless you don't have a dagger.
And anytime you're trying to kill a mob quickly, it will always be faster to open with Ambush over CS, regardless of the single extra CP that a cheap shot will give you.
Lastly, anytime your ambush will kill the target, you use that over CS or Garrote... i.e. if they're under 20% HP or so.
And anytime you're trying to kill a mob quickly, it will always be faster to open with Ambush over CS, regardless of the single extra CP that a cheap shot will give you.
Lastly, anytime your ambush will kill the target, you use that over CS or Garrote... i.e. if they're under 20% HP or so.
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Mageoken wrote:
Pre-garrote silence (lvl 61?), you don't garrote mages. You generally ambush them, unless you don't have a dagger.
I've said before already that I'm talking about lvl 70 pvp.
Plus I'm obviously talking of the silence version of garrote, why else would I garrote a mage?
Are you telling me that you Ambush mages at lvl 70? Because I don't and I really haven't seen many (or any?) do it. If you do, please explain why you think it's superior to:
- CS (generates 2 CPs, forces the mages to either suffer a Muti, generates another 3 CPs and nice damages... or the bad mages will burn their Blink at that time which is even better)
- Garrote with the silence and nice DOT.
Mageoken wrote:
And anytime you're trying to kill a mob quickly, it will always be faster to open with Ambush over CS, regardless of the single extra CP that a cheap shot will give you.
I'm not sure. Don't forget that a mob will /face you as soon as you Ambush, which means no Muti/BS. So, sure you've got your possibly nice Ambush, but just one CP and no follow-up damage. As compared to getting 4-5 CPs and 1 Muti, which once again (especially when crit) does close to Ambush's damage.
All I can say is that I've leveled 1 rogue to 70 and another one to 4x and I don't use Ambush.
What really matters when grinding for instance is your "per hour" rate. And that depends not mainly from how fast you kill, but from how fast you chain mobs, which in turns depends from how much damage you take. With my CS-Muti-KS-Muti-Muti combo, I take VERY little damage and I can chain mobs fast. I personally think that it's superior to Ambush. But again, you're free to show me otherwise.
Mageoken wrote:
Lastly, anytime your ambush will kill the target, you use that over CS or Garrote... i.e. if they're under 20% HP or so.
Yeah, that might be true. But to be frank, it happens very rarely to me to be stealthed and facing an opponent below 20% life. I'm not a scavenger, I'm a predator :)
nostra
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I wouldn't do that. There will be times when you want to Gouge without bandaging. If you press this key and stop bandaging, this prevent further bandaging for 1 full min. Can mean death in pvp.
Nostraaa, of course I have one for just gouge as well. =)
But in for example pvp, when I want to make the fullest of every second of bandaging, this really comes to help. I use regular gouge very often as well, without bandage.
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My key-bindings have been working fine for PVE, but I find that PVP is a different deal. I tried to construct a macro that would allow me to spam sinister strike and also incorporate riposte... and it went a little something like this:
/cast sinister strike
/cast riposte
/cast sinister strike
/cast riposte
Ok this is what I will do:
#showtooltip /cast [nomodifier]Sinister Strike; [modifier:alt]Riposte
Bind this to a key, for me it'll be "3". In normal scenario, I'll spam 3 for SS, but if I see "Riposte" (SCT will help you on this), immediately Alt-3 will do the job.
You don't blindly hit a button and hope Riposte casted, rather, you cast it when you want to cast it.
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