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Leo down!


I know this isn't some amazing accomplishment by some standards, but considering my guild did our first Gruul attempt on 09/03 and the fact that we spent an entire raid wiping to him last week, I'm retardedly happy enough to think this qualifies as post worthy. I passed the gloves to another warlock that just needed new ones, but the last real road block before Vashj is out of the way. You would be amazed the kind of emotional investment you put into a guild when you start it with your friends from scratch.


I now return you to your regularly scheduled flame wars.

gratz man. we just downed tidewalker yesterday.

Congrats.
I know how you feel, my guild downed Vashj for the first time yesterday.
She was our first speedbump and we're all really happy about the kill.

I never got to tank Leo :(

Gratz Loki, GL on Vashj!

Gratz! My guild is still working on the resist for him. Glad to have you back!

Congratulations! I know the feeling of accomplishing what you set out to do after hard work, even though it's just a game. We downed Karathress on Sunday, and started working on Vashj yesterday, obviously 3 hours of wipes, but we'll get her :-)

yeah content-blocking-boss-mobs do suck! You should have done lootreaver though, it´s really easy to down him an equiping the raÃd with t5-shoulders is really nice +all the other drops. Now i think they are going to introduce doors into TK so you have to do a´lar first before advancing to the other bosses. Of course that will give you a slight advantage over the guilds who have just been doing voidreaver and have no clue how a´lar works.

Gratz

Thats a good point.

Gratz Loki, my guild is working on Leo atm. Only have Leo and Vashj left till we have SSC fully cleared. We had a wipe at 3% lastnight that on Leo that was kinda disappointing, but it goes to show we can kill him relatively easily, with a little tightning up of our strat. Mind you, this was only our second night of attempts on Leo. We dropped Hydross our 1st night of raiding together, Lurker our 2nd, and Voidreaver on our 3rd.

From there we hit a bit of a roadblock on Morogrim, took us about two weeks to kill Morogrim our first time, but we were splitting attension twords other instances as well(so I know how you feel about that Loki). In the two weeks it took us to kill Morogrim we went and did Gruul and Magtheridon, not for the gear, just for the sake of doing them so we could list them on our progression. We also made diversions to TK and killed Voidreaver and got Al'ar to 2% before we put our attension back on SSC.

Being that we had VR on farm stats, and realizing that we could kill Al'ar if things went smoothly, we set our focus on SSC because we were having major problems with Morogrim. After two nights of trying Morogrim we got him down and on farm status, about 2 days later we had Fathomlord down for the first time.

Same night we killed Fathomlord we went on to Leo for our first attempts at him, got him to <50% our first night. From there we took some time off and killed Doomwalker for the first time on our of our off nights(a night we dont normally raid). Went back in for Leo lastnight, best attempt was 3%, so with a little work we should have him np.

From there its all about Vashj with maybe a few trips into TK to kill Al'ar for the first time, farm VR, and start some attempts on Solarian.

This is all of course, not counting our 2 groups which will be running ZA on our off raiding nights after todays patch.

I must say I disagree Loki, clearing an hour of trash for 1 boss isnt unreasonable, especially when the boss provides upgrades for every single person in the raid. But clearing just for the sake of progression is, which is what you make it sound like guilds are doing. Theyre not killing Loot Reaver to 1up you on the wowjutsu, theyre doing it because T5 shoulders are an uprade for the entire raid. He is an easy boss that provides upgrades to everyone. I'm sure your 950 DPS rogue would love the trinket off him!

Plus the trash drops Nether Vortexs and many, many nice patterns, along with Marks for flasks; and is on a fairly long respawn timer. What more could you ask for?

The T5 shoulders ARE an upgrade as well as the trinket, but it is a solitary upgrade that does nothing to clear the way to more upgrades, the same for Solarian. The idea of doing the fights in the order of progression is that it is EASILY the most efficient way to complete the content. A raid of 25 people with T5 shoulders is no better equipped to down Morogrim than one without it. A raid who has already completed the A'lar fight is likely to be far more mentally capable of completing VR than the other way around. The proof is really in the rate at which we're clearing content. The guild was formed on Bastille Day from 6 people and didn't begin Kara until early September. In the 2 months since we've made it from 0-29th on the server (granted, I have no clue how we got credit for a VR kill). Look at the guilds around us vs. us. Our first scan was 7/23, most guilds around us got scanned on 1/06. For a raid program that until 2 weeks ago was 2 nights a week? We have to be doing something right.

My sarcasm sense is tingling, but you've always been a nice guy so I'll just be naive and say, "thank you."