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Amen to that. It makes me feel less cookie-cutter, it also pretty much gives me dibs on fist weapons that drop in Instances. I ran Shattered Halls like 6 times with pugs to get a Demonblood Eviscerator and the only time I ever saw one was on a Hunter who had picked one up on a different run. Typical. I ended up getting the 70PvP fist, but that thing is just so but ugly I had to hide it behind the quickest semi-decent useful weapon-glow enchant available.

What should I do for offhands though? My only fist offhand is Void-Talon. I've run all the instances that drop offhand Fists until I just cant take it anymore. Seeing as that weapon is poo I was going to run Shadowstep first to farm for new gear in which case I Have a Ced's Carver, or Claw of Netherwing Flight.

I'm cursed with bad luck when it comes to PuG runs, so no matter how many times I've run Botanica for Warp Splinter's Thorn or BM for Latro's Shifting I just haven't seen a drop. Mostly because the PuG's ive bumped into are all f*cking retarded.

Edited some link problems and spelling.

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 2:58pm by Flubgaurd

its 3 points that really wont yield that much damage

MAYBE if your a dagger sub build, but thats not hemo...... i generally hafta pick that or setup, and setup has lasting power


as for the otha rogue usin fists

it took me over 30 in SH for the demonblood

trust me..... cha ya i was happy to see it haha

hell yes im lazy, but i might just sig that one

nooble called me an idiot, u call me lazy

just need someone to call me a manwhore and im just a horrible person all around haha

you have fun with your NoS and i'll have fun with my hp...NoS just isn't as important to me...never said it wasn't good, believe i called it clutch lol

almost any of my fights with a ar/prep build last over 2-3 minutes fyi

thats a lot of blind action


as for endurance, you got 5/5 LR

think in bgs, where u know... the OTHER big pvp area, where fights arent on cooldown resets

its a pvp aspect, not arena..

and if your serious about arena, u got a LOT of honor to stock for the new s3 honor gear

its all preference, but in overall pvp goodness, 5/5 LR falls short

pvp u only need enough to not miss specials, then whatever u get, u get

i got no precision, 7.3% to hit and thats plenty

pve loves hit, pvp is like its estranged wife calling for the first time in 30 years


if your talking in pve terms, i assume its still a big deal, but ap is a big deal as well

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0000000000000000000000053052020050150020012005002431030301210300000

should i change deadliness to 5/5 or keep it 3/5 so i can keep nerves of steel?

Thanks for the summary. It answered my questions.

stunlock is dead.... anything involving a weapon spec and hemo should be ar/prep so go with a ar/prep variant

theres plenty of good blue fist weapons (reg arc and reg shattered drop mainhands, i believe reg bot (or maybe mech i dunno really) drops the offhand, heroic sethekk halls drops a main hand... you can always get the pvp blue ones or the new honor s1 ones)

fist is the least reliant on having offhand of the same type... so if you have a decent offhand weapon dont worry about replacing that right away, just work for a main hand first (i used blade of the unrequited as offhand to my S1 fist for a long time)

Cool beans. I built my spec based on your links above and it seems the best synergy is stunlock. After some practice, my battles in pvp go like this.

1. Stealth
2. Cheap shot
3. Hemo
4. Hemo
5. Kidney punch
6. Hemo
7. Blind and wait for energy to regain
8. If needed, while blind, vanish, break combat and start over.

If I have it ready, blade flurry and adrenaline combined while they are stunned from KP work great. I'm having a blast in pvp right now.


Based on your links, what do you think that build should be doing then if not stunlock?

I could do that, just preferred 10 secs to 5.5. But guess it doesn't matter as in bgs you'll be dead in 10. I really really wish alliance didn't suck at pvp in general on my server. Or is it like that on all servers?

That sucks, cause i met alot of good peoples on alliance, and i worked hard to get my toon to 66 and now, its next to impossible to win at pvp. bleh, any suggestions?

*cough* my balls. sorry, had an accident. Can't imagine rerolling. I started horde, loved it, but damnit, hillsbrad makes me sick after going through it 10 times. I have a 25 orc shammy as I think the orc racial fury skill is killer on a walking nuke stick. At 25, it adds 105 attack power and 53 to healing/dmg spells and can be used every 2 mins. I'm on runetotem if anyone want to team up and help me level. Fortunately i'll be laid off for winter and will have plenty of time.

Edited, Nov 28th 2007 8:56pm by Soljourner