I hear that the nerf that affects fire bolt is being removed in 2.3. What exactly is this co-efficient nerf and how will it's removal effect us?
Also, is it just fire mages that will benefit, or will frost bolt also be improved for us frost mages? :)
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The coeficient is a 10% reduction on the dmg coeficient when you put 5/5 Improved Fireball or Frostbolt (2% per lvl). On 2.3 we are having this nerf removed, so the impact is...hmm...we will do more dmg (some theorycrafters says it´s about 6~7% increase on the dmg).
That simple.
That simple.
redbarrom wrote:
as if you guys dnt do enough dmg.
i hope they take the nerf from SB's aswell.
i hope they take the nerf from SB's aswell.
Any decent guild's other dps generally reigns high above mages dps, partially because of this. locks+rogues tend to blow away mages in a dps race (mainly because a lot of the fights require movement, something that locks + rogues can do freely).
redbarrom wrote:
i hope they take the nerf from SB's aswell.
I don't believe there is a nerf to shadowbolt.
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
redbarrom wrote:
i hope they take the nerf from SB's aswell.
I don't believe there is a nerf to shadowbolt.
There wasn't.
The coefficient is in response to your +damage. So if you have 1000 + damage to fire spells, fireball should get 652 extra damage on the cast and 348 extra on the DoT (I believe that becomes 87 extra damage per tick). So on fireball spam, instead of doing an average of 815+21 (for one tick of DoT) on the hit, you do 1467+108.
However, with the so-called "damage tax", you get only 587 extra instant and 313 extra DoT damage, or 78 per tick. SO you hit 1402+99. As you can see, if you dont spam fireball but you let the DoT tick (assume you put another spell in the middle, such as fireblast or refreshing scorch) you get more out of the plus damage.
Of course, if the coeffecient works different for fireball, I just wasted time on useless math lol.
However, with the so-called "damage tax", you get only 587 extra instant and 313 extra DoT damage, or 78 per tick. SO you hit 1402+99. As you can see, if you dont spam fireball but you let the DoT tick (assume you put another spell in the middle, such as fireblast or refreshing scorch) you get more out of the plus damage.
Of course, if the coeffecient works different for fireball, I just wasted time on useless math lol.
Forgive me for beeing incorrect but never really looked up on this,
Is part of the coefficient that you get 100% + spell damage for spells with casting times for 3.5 seconds and more, and for each .5 seconds quicker there's a 14% reduction in coefficent.
So that:
3 sec casting time = 86% + spell damage.
2.5 sec casting time = 72% + spell damage.
I know this is different for insta spells, which im not sure what their coefficient tax is, but I don't think insta spells get 6% of + spell damage.
Anyone able to clarify this for me?
Is part of the coefficient that you get 100% + spell damage for spells with casting times for 3.5 seconds and more, and for each .5 seconds quicker there's a 14% reduction in coefficent.
So that:
3 sec casting time = 86% + spell damage.
2.5 sec casting time = 72% + spell damage.
I know this is different for insta spells, which im not sure what their coefficient tax is, but I don't think insta spells get 6% of + spell damage.
Anyone able to clarify this for me?
skribs wrote:
The coefficient is in response to your +damage. So if you have 1000 + damage to fire spells, fireball should get 652 extra damage on the cast and 348 extra on the DoT (I believe that becomes 87 extra damage per tick). So on fireball spam, instead of doing an average of 815+21 (for one tick of DoT) on the hit, you do 1467+108.
The DoT doesn't get any portion of the damage on fireball, iirc. And if it were, I'm getting majorly gipped.
Edit:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_Damage_Coefficients
Quote:
Ability Name Spell Damage/Healing Coefficient Effective coefficient per 3.5s
Fireball (Direct Damage Effect) 100.0% 100.0%
with 5/5 Improved Fireball 90.0% 105.0%
with 5/5 Improved Fireball (2.3) 100.0% 116.67%
with 5/5 Empowered Fireball 115.0% 115.0%
with 5/5 improved and empowered 103.5% 120.75%
with 5/5 improved and empowered (2.3
Edited, Nov 11th 2007 9:27pm by Poldaran
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