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#1 Nov 09 2007 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html?0501220502230100000002052300133250103431000000000000000000000000

ok this might seem as a pretty low dmg spec but it is nice since it can be used to grind low instances... such as rampants blablabla
if you dont agree post another spec
p.s. also VERY fun to use in bgs:D
p.p.s using void and demon armor MUHAHAHA

Edited, Nov 9th 2007 6:36pm by Chosenorc
#2 Nov 09 2007 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
Looks like a somewhat gimped SL SL.

Why do you forego CoEX? There are some things you picked Demon side you don't need. To go that far into aff and not take CoEx seems silly to me.
#3 Nov 09 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Get Curse of Exhaustion, max Master Demonologist, take points out of Demonic Aegis.

I'm going to guess that you aren't high enough to have Fel Armor yet? 'Cause, if you did, you'd know that Fel Armor is better than Demon Armor. The armor boost from DA just doesn't do enough, and you compensate for DA's health regen with Siphon Life.

I personally found myself having more personal survivability with full UA affliction than with demonology. Demo has serious durability, but only if you keep a demon out; if it gets killed or banished, you're f^*&*d. With aff, you have Impr. Howl as an instant "Oh, s*&t!!" button, and CoEx to kite with while you DoT & drain 'em. Not to mention the infamous DoT-and-run-away tactic.

All of the above is just my opinion, though... feel free to disregard... :)
#4 Nov 09 2007 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
Imp funnel and imp VW = lol
#5 Nov 12 2007 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I'd go with this instead:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/warlock/talents.html?1502220512230110000002050300133250100501300000000000000000000000

The point in Supression is mostly a filler, but it'll make a difference. In PvE with VW tanking, the Imp Drain Soul helps. As others have said, this gets you CoEx, very useful for kiting.

You'll also get more out of your Demo tree this way. Imp Health Funnel, Mana Feed and Demonic Resilience are not that useful for pets other than Felguard. Master Demo and and Demonic Knowledge will give you some of your damage back while not sacraficing much.
#6 Nov 12 2007 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
Anyone who has "the ultimate spec" is usually wrong. So much depends on skill and personal play style that what might be "ultimate" for one player will almost certainly not be "ultimate" for another.
#7 Nov 12 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
OP, this is a bad spec. Look up any cookie cutter SL/SL, and study it. What you have here is called SL/SL, your take is not optimized.

You want one point in SE. That helps you drain (via soul siphon).

You need CoEx. Empowered Corruption is not nec. DK is 3 points much better spent, if you can work it in.

Health Funnel??? Not needed for pvp (you wanna pve w/ SL SL? That's ... a standard Felguard build is better imo).

Imp vw - marginally useful for the boost to sac, but not needed.

3/3 in mana feed? No. 1/3 is prolly enough. Max MD.

DR, for a 3% reduction in the chance for others to crit you, is okay - but not absolutely nec.

VW only lowers melee damage you take by 10% (iirc), which is okay - I mean, if you're on an arena team, and you know they're going to gun for you - then take all the defense you can get. You can do a lot more w/ other pets, though. Here you don't even have MD maxed - not good.
#8 Nov 12 2007 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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IponemaGirl wrote:
You want one point in SE. That helps you drain (via soul siphon).


Not after the patch tomorrow.

Shadow Embrace will no longer trigger other effects.
#9 Nov 12 2007 at 12:48 PM Rating: Default
Out of main topic:

What do you mean shadow embrace wont trigger other effects? what other effects? im confused :(
#10 Nov 12 2007 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Shadow Embrace used to count as an Affliction Effect and trigger Soul Siphon, giving an extra 5% on Drain Life. It won't anymore. It's in the PTR patch notes, and will be in the patch notes tomorrow.
#11 Nov 12 2007 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
Oh, you're kidding?!

Another nerf, and I bet we don't even get a free reset for that.

Bastids.

Shoot, they've cast a long-term nerf-dot on us. Nothing huge at any given patch, but I feel it adding up. Oh well, I guess I got to counteract this with "more skillz." (/sigh, I may be out of skillz atm...)
#12 Nov 12 2007 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I wish I were kidding. AFAIK though, this is in and staying. They are also making Soul Siphon only add 4% per Afflicion Effect not 5% and making Health Reduction Effect affect Siphon Life and Drain Life. It sucks, I'm going SL/Ruin for PvP now.
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