Worst respec ever!Follow

This comment made me want to vomit in a boot made of hyena skin, and rub the bile into my face as if it were lotion.

Beast Mastery spec (even if partially spec'd correctly) will register as the strongest hunter DPS (85%) of the time.



Cats are cool, and have nice abilities, but overall DPS....ravagers & raptors are better physically. Scorpids are better DOT-wise.

Survival is "awesome", not as brutal in PvP

sorry frodo but your just absolutely off. Beast mastery is the most damaging class and survival sure as hell does count when in the right hands.



Not sure what you meant by this but either way you should be slapped for it.

Survival is damn fun to play, the only reason that players sometimes dislike it is because it requires more skill to play than the other specs. Its TOUGH to play right and even TOUGHER to play well. you should give serious props to the survival spec players, I do.

And honestly your complaints are more about your own lack of skill rather than a build being poor. Maybe take a look at the stickies in this forum and get some tips. then come back and tell us how you actually enjoy playing survival.

I have played all three specs for extended periods of time. They are all awsome and fun to play. they all lend extreme usefulness to a party in any given situation.

And no there is no quick way to getting used to a build. First though you have to use it with an open mind. and accept the areas that it is not very strong in.









Edited, Nov 8th 2007 10:51am by Slammerofkooter

heh that just made me think of this:

/cast Wyvern Sting
/stopcast Autoshot

Wonder if it would work?

The increased stacking rate of the poison was nerfed (yes), but Scorpid sting in it's current use (as BM) is still significantly the best for a Hunter who incorporates poison into his/her ******** The physical attack may not compete with a ravager, cat or raptor, but combined with it's consistant poison....makes it extremely viable.

Raptors and Cats have claw, Ravagers have gore. Unless something changed I don't know about.
People keep lumping ravagers and raptors together, but Ravagers > Raptors = Cats. Scorpids got nerfed, if you want a DoT IMO you should go with a serpent, because they can DoT from a range (so if you're rooted you can still get them with a DoT to stop them from stealthing/bandaging).

As far as the build, why not try a 0/21/40 build instead, picking up scatter shot (you dont get silence, but you get a 12 second sleep). Note that I did not include clever traps, and that is because frost trap is limited to 10 seconds in PvP anyway.

SV is not as big of a jump as BM is for a MM hunter, trust me on that one, the only thing I miss is SIlencing Shot, and it is easly compensated for (LOS or Wyvern then pull when ready).

So i think my message was misinterpretted by quite a few veiwers, but i only blame myself (for writing at 5 in the morning).


I said this because as i was leveling, my friend was leveling MM and we thought that MM was better for dps while BM was more survivable. I was not speaking with respect to high levels at all, so call off the flames please.


Again, this is what i thought (and was the truth till ravagers came around).


My hp was sitting at 8k and once targetted, i couldnt do much to prevent myself from dying. With a low crit chance, i thought increasing the crit and increasing my survivability would help in the arena, and i have not proven myself wrong yet... We'll see next week.


Yes, my complaints were directed toward my lack of skill with the new talents!! That was the point of the thread. I stated all this because i found the change so hard.


Not necessary. Wyvern stops your auto-shot automatically. Gotta love programmers looking ahead.
I will look into the targetting macro though.


Scorpids are used to keep poisons (especially viper sting) on all classes with mana. It makes it very difficult to remove the right poison so wastes even more mana for the healers. At my rating, it has only been a mana battle once, but i suspect this technique or something to the same end will be required when i get another 200 rating.

The 0/21/40 build is lacking the crit i (partially) made the switch for. I also dont need that mana yet, but will look into it in the coming weeks with the gear upgrades.


As for learning the new talents:
I spent two hours last night fighting Warp-dudes (the lizard type things) and some 68 elite horde guards to play around with the new skills... i also did this with just the two pieces of beast lord armor on and everything else but my weapons (and crappy arrows), to try and get used to everything. I think it helped, but im still not ready for the arena. Looking forward to getting more practice soon.

Sorry for the mix up with my wording, but thanks for the input!

Lol, last time I had a macro with a curse word in it I got reported >.<

I noticed the big loss of dps because my agility is way too low. i made the change 1) mostly for a change. 2) for survivability and tricksies

Thankfully, i have a major upgrade in gear coming very soon. Still wont be near the 650 agility i need to get similar dps to BM or MM, but everything else SV offers in a 2v2 arena (double rapid fire, double deterrence, and cutting off the cd on traps and feign). I'm excited :D