Now: Having Read the FAQFollow

Make choices: you shouldn't invest points in attacks that exclude each others: for instance, don't take Opportunity (5 points is a lot to waste!) while speccing Hemo (to which Opportunity doesn't apply). You also take Imp SS while Hemo (remember, that's what you're speccing for apparently?) is here to replace SS.

Also, don't invest so heavily in stealth talents (5/5 MOD and 5/5 Camo... 10 points is a lot!).

Don't take Imp Ambush, since Ambush is a very bad opener.

That's a lot of wasted points... leading you to a overkill 51 poitns in Sub. Ok, Sub might not be gimped anymore in 2.3, but don't go over board with it! Around 41 points should be enough!

Especially since you're missing so great talents in other trees such as:
- Assassination: Ruthlessness and Relentless Strikes, two amazing talents to manage CP's generation and energy; I also think that Murder (passive) is better than Imp Evisc (applies to one finisher only).
- Combat: lots of awesome talents, depending on your focus (see existing builds).

So to sum up, I think this is a pretty bad build. Check existing ones (and, btw, there are a lot of existing threads discussing Hemo builds after 2.3, check them out).

Edit: here are two examples of such threads:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=119409977715635254;num=81;page=1
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=1193908293204992598;num=10;page=1

nostra

Edited, Nov 5th 2007 5:38pm by nostraaa

Having re-re-re-read the FAQs, and some threads, I think my plan of using Ambush IS viable but dropping points for Hemo is a waste of them given how I want to play him. So maybe this Ambush/Evic build:

19/0/42

Edited, Nov 5th 2007 10:23am by vyodar

While a 3K-4K ambush does sound appealing, Outlands cloth gear is full of stamina. Now factor in Resiliance and your "big" ambush on a cloth wearer with 12K of health will get you nowhere, except a quick trip to the graveyard.

Go Mutilate.

My plan was for my main attack to be SS and then either Backstab, Ambush or Garrotte depending on which did the most damage. Most likely it would be SS, Ambush, Eviscerate and move on? Ambush, with the talent spec I posted above, would have (gear dependent to some degree) a 60 - 90% crit chance which is why I was leaning towards an SS/Ambush build. Basically I am trying to do a sneaky-*******-build, one shots preferred or as close to it as possible. _Would_ a mutilate/subtle build be better for that, or even combat/subtle?

I'd honestly prefer to go all the way to SS because I really, really like the stealth aspect of playing a rogue. It might not do as much damage as a combat-swords but I do have more fun with it, and I can always respec later for Kara if I need to.

Thanks for the advice. One of the threads has a Mutilate/Subtle build I will try then. Much appreciated, rate ups.

On second glance (duh) that build was posted in this thread. I'm going to respec and try it.

Edited, Nov 5th 2007 11:03am by vyodar

No, just no...

Don't get imp. ss when you have mutilate, and you won't be using ss unless you are desperate to get 1 more hit and either a) don't have enough evenry for mutilate or b) can't get behind your target.

Voydar,

On your Sub plan: you mentioned twice sth like SS then Ambush... You're missing that you can't Ambush when you're not stealthed. Just check what attack require stealth, those are openers. Check which require CPs, those are finishers. The others are potential all-time attacks.

As for your Muti build, you don't take Imp SS with a Muti build because the whole point of this build is to use Muti for high damage and fast CP generation. If you want to be a SS user, go for a Combat build.

As you can see, you're not back to a traditional Muti/Combat or Muti/Sub based on what you prefer, the ones in the stickies and our signatures :)

nostra

Edited, Nov 5th 2007 9:51pm by nostraaa

I can see that you are geniunely trying to learn sometihng here, so i won't go down the flaming route. But you say your rogue is lvl 19? Just lvl however you like w/ whatever spec you like.

I say this because, you seem to simply have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Which is fine because you don't have a high lvl rogue. You seemed to realize that one-shotting isn't possible anymore, and good for you, because many people simply refuse to believe that rogues can't one-shot.

If you want to talk lvl 70 specs, at least hit 70. There are plenty of "streamlined" lvling guides/builds to be found in stickies and in many threads on just the first few pages. If a build you have in mind isn't mentioned, it's because it "sucks" compared to the more cookie-cutter builds.

Lvl how you want and enjoy it, because you'll have plenty of time to be stuck as combat once you hit 70. (pre-2.3 that is)