windfury - duel wield or 2H for pvp?Follow

enhance:
*firstly, If u choose to use 2H rather then duel wield, u have 4 extra talent points to spend (after the next patch).
Aside from that, Which would be better for pvp to get the best DPS? I heard using a 2H is more risky yet it can be devastating if you have windfury crits... duel wielding is more stable though the devasting crits are forfited. I was just wondering what every1 else thought would be better out of the two styles for pvp.

*secondly, whats the highest windfury crit that you have hit and with what weapon if you remember.

Well basically, 2h for pvp enhancement. You most likely wont be using 2h enhancement in raids and instances.

Reason for this is because 2h with windfury provides large crits, which is what you want when you pvp. When you pve, you don't want those large crits because when you get one off you'll most likely get alot of threat, which is something you don't want unless you're off tanking something.

Shamans already have trouble with threat while dual wielding, 2h just pushes that over the edge. Constant threat is better than high burst threat while raiding.

You want larger crits to take down your enemies quickly so they wont have time to recover, in pvp.

About the talents for Duel Wield, you will be saving 4 talent points if you make a purely pvp shaman. Since you'll most likely use a 2h in pvp. Only problem is that you're pretty much leaving your shaman in pvp mode, you probably wont raid with 2h enhancement. If thats fine with you then go for it, if you're planning to pve/raid then I would put those 4 points in duel wield.

Tenjen: I believe the OP is talking about the talents Duel Wield and Duel Wield Specialization. Which is 4 points total from both of them. It seems hes talking about if he takes only 2h then he doesn't have to spend 4 points for the duel wild talents. But to answer you're question the 2h talent is going to be trainable in 2.3, and replaced with a new talent.

For a pure PvP build just spec down to Stormstrike, then spec down Resto to Nature's Swiftness. Use a 2 Hander and WF.



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Sounds to me like you've had some bad luck. Unfortunately luck is what it's all about when it comes to Enh Shaman PvP.

The reason 2 handers are superior to dual wield for PvP is because they provide so much more burst. Dual wield is more consistent dps but the problem with that is that it is much easier for your opponent to predict your damage and heal/bubble/escape at the last moment. With a 2 hander your damage is much more spiky and a good WF proc will takie many opponents from half health to none (at lower levels 1 shots are not unusual). There's no chance for your opponent to anticipate or counter that kinda burst, it's completely unpredictable.

The unpredictability of WF is both its greatest positive and its biggest negative. Your opponents won't know what hit em, but on the other hand you will run around for minutes without a proc sometimes and get beaten down over and over...

As an aside, you don't use two weapons in raids because of the burst threat (though it is an issue), you use two weapons because a 2-hander is horrible sustained damage compared. DW scales better with AP, has a higher chance of proccing Windfury (effective 36% after the cooldown's up), an extra 6% hit, more Flurry uptime, more UR uptime, and isn't impacted nearly as much by a string of missed/dodges.

I'm still new to the Shaman game, but what does Stormstrike do for 2h weopons? Is it just an instant extra melee hit?

Yep, it is in fact our ONLY instant melee attack.