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#1 Nov 02 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
Is arms raiding any viable in raiding?
#2 Nov 02 2007 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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With WF totem. Otherwise the rage generation is extremeley weak, and it's preffered that you go 17/44 DW Fury for DPS.
#3 Nov 02 2007 at 11:48 AM Rating: Default
Using 2hander or 2 1 handers?
#4 Nov 02 2007 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yes arms is useful in raids.

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Use faerie fire, curse of recklessness, and 5 x sunder for best armor reduction (IE best DPS increase). With imp demo shout 5/5 you provide enough AP reduction to cover the bonus DPS the curse gives.

So... if a mob has 7700 armor, you reduce it to 3690 (a huge difference). A 15.56% increase in DPS.

Ok... Now the other benefit, if the mob takes bleeds, you will provide a 4% increase on ALL melee damage on the boss. Blood frenzy is a HUGE increase to overall raid dps.

I wish people would stop caring about personal dps so much. SYNERGY!

As for the rage generation. I get enough rage to slam after every hit and have some left over, and I'm not even that well geared. Sword spec > all other for 2h PvE DPS. More rage, more damage. You'll have enough rage to MS every 3rd or 4th Slam, and battle shout and demo shout...

Do not MS spam... 2x the rage cost of Slam, very little damage increase (if any, they both do roughly equal damage with only 2000 AP and a 3.5 speed weapon).

A 3rd thought on Arms DPS;

You require less gear to DPS as efficiently. It is MORE work than D/w fury. But if you spend the time to learn how to effectively use slam, you can do some very good DPS. It requires very little to hit gear, so you can concentrate on AP and Crit more efficiently. If you have a shaman, insist on them dropping WF totem, and ask RPZip if he can beat them over the head about 'totem twisting'.

D/w fury IS more personal DPS. And if you already have an arms warrior in your raid group, don't try to take their spot. Blood frenzy doesn't stack with other blood frenzies, and that is a MAJOR reason to bring an arms warrior. But you should focus on gaining D/w gear that functions for 2h as well. A good example is season 2 gladiator gear. You have to socket for to hit if you go D/w (in season 2 gladiator gear). but for 2h you can socket for AP/crit which is usually a bigger increase to personal dps.

Kara is not a good place for an arms warrior. Except on trash. IMHO.

If you have any other questions about Arms warrior PvE dps, we have a great group of people here who are very knowledgeable, and we seem to be trolling these forums at least 25 hours 8 days a week.
#5 Nov 03 2007 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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we seem to be trolling these forums at least 25 hours 8 days a week.


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#6 Nov 03 2007 at 9:23 PM Rating: Decent
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