I recently respecced Elemental from Enhancement and there's a couple of things I need to know.
I'm using a 1-hander and shield at the moment as the extra armor is really handy when soloing, is this also levelling my shield skill? Do I have a shield skill? I have a Block Rating, that is nice.
I first thought it'd be a no-brainer as to which weapon buff to put on my 1-hander. 58 levels of Enchancement have taught me Windfury FTW! right? Yet I read on WoWWiki (or somewhere like that) that Elemental Shaman actually get more from Flametongue. Is this true?
I'm also unsure what to do in groups now. I haven't been in one since I respecced, but do I get in with the melee at the mob. Still slinging spells, but I get to add a little melee damage and it keeps me in easy range for my shocks. Or do I hang back with the ranged DPS, keeping my totems out of AoE range?
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Flametongue benefits from +spelldmg, something you (should) have a lot of.
And you'll be at the back slinging spells at your foe's.
And you'll be at the back slinging spells at your foe's.
Elemental is pure DPS ane is also able to off/spec heal.
you should NEVER be melee'ing anything unless you have absolutely no mana left.
elemental is pure caster spec, magma totem is fo solo'ing, not grouping in groups use searing totem.
also would you mind linking your talent build?
you should NEVER be melee'ing anything unless you have absolutely no mana left.
elemental is pure caster spec, magma totem is fo solo'ing, not grouping in groups use searing totem.
also would you mind linking your talent build?
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I'm using a 1-hander and shield at the moment as the extra armor is really handy when soloing, is this also levelling my shield skill? Do I have a shield skill? I have a Block Rating, that is nice.
You do have a shield skill in the sense that you have the ability to use shields but it does not level like a weapon skill. Defense skill does. And yes you also have Block Rating which is on many shields and also available on some gems etc.
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I first thought it'd be a no-brainer as to which weapon buff to put on my 1-hander. 58 levels of Enchancement have taught me Windfury FTW! right? Yet I read on WoWWiki (or somewhere like that) that Elemental Shaman actually get more from Flametongue. Is this true?
Indeed it is, Windfury scales with your AP and Crit, Flametongue scales with spelldamage so FT is much more effective for Elemental. However due to the fact you should almost never be in melee Wizard Oil (+spelldamage) or Mana Oil (mp5) are better options IMO.
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I'm also unsure what to do in groups now. I haven't been in one since I respecced, but do I get in with the melee at the mob. Still slinging spells, but I get to add a little melee damage and it keeps me in easy range for my shocks. Or do I hang back with the ranged DPS, keeping my totems out of AoE range?
The ideal spot for an Elemental Shammy is in front of the other casters. You should be spamming LB's and in range to throw in shocks at appropriate moments.
If a mob makes a break for the caster group pick it up with FS and kite it back to the tank. Avoid melee if at all possible but at the same time if it's you or the healer be ready to take the hits, you can take them much better than a clothie.
edit: Totems are immune to AoE damage. Just FYI.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 4:53am by SunSoarer
good info sun, I will add though don't be afraid to melee if needed to =P
when I am low on mana in an instance you better believe I run up with my dagger and get my stabs in. When I solo for primals (crafting is fun) I will melee if I feel the amount of health left on my target does not justify the mana spent to kill. If your ever lucky enough to get a Lightning Compacitator from kara it procs off your FT crits ^^
Also as a tip, avoid the use of high rank shocks until you have some decent spell damage, use rank one of the spells for their abilities, earth shock rank one is great when your spell damage is to weak to justify the cost, but the interrupt still works just the same, same with frost shock, at least while grouping, in pvp go for max damage =P
Another tip, a lot of enemies have reflect abilities to reflect casted damage, Flame tongue and AoE affects penetrate these affects. Lets say you need to kite one of those big naga guys in Slave Pens, drop Earth Bind totem, easier to kite these guys as a shaman then a mage, I solo both of the guys at the bridge this way when my team died on heroic.
when I am low on mana in an instance you better believe I run up with my dagger and get my stabs in. When I solo for primals (crafting is fun) I will melee if I feel the amount of health left on my target does not justify the mana spent to kill. If your ever lucky enough to get a Lightning Compacitator from kara it procs off your FT crits ^^
Also as a tip, avoid the use of high rank shocks until you have some decent spell damage, use rank one of the spells for their abilities, earth shock rank one is great when your spell damage is to weak to justify the cost, but the interrupt still works just the same, same with frost shock, at least while grouping, in pvp go for max damage =P
Another tip, a lot of enemies have reflect abilities to reflect casted damage, Flame tongue and AoE affects penetrate these affects. Lets say you need to kite one of those big naga guys in Slave Pens, drop Earth Bind totem, easier to kite these guys as a shaman then a mage, I solo both of the guys at the bridge this way when my team died on heroic.
Thanks for the replies. I had already ranked down my Earth Shock, but I guess it makes sense to do the same on my Frost also.
When you say "you should almost never be meleeing" You're referring to groups, right? When soloing, I generally get off one or two LBs before the mob gets to me, but then the rest of it is toe-to-toe. Kiting seems too much effort when I have the extra survivability.
Or am I doing it wrong?
When you say "you should almost never be meleeing" You're referring to groups, right? When soloing, I generally get off one or two LBs before the mob gets to me, but then the rest of it is toe-to-toe. Kiting seems too much effort when I have the extra survivability.
Or am I doing it wrong?
a little offtopic, but how is it possible Sunsoarer isnt a scholar yet? oO
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
And when soloing you can get about 2 bolts and a shock before a mob reaches you.
And by then mobs should be pretty close to death anyway so no reason to kite.
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
And when soloing you can get about 2 bolts and a shock before a mob reaches you.
And by then mobs should be pretty close to death anyway so no reason to kite.
Aethien wrote:
a little offtopic, but how is it possible Sunsoarer isnt a scholar yet? oO
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
Totally true. I almost always rate him up because he gives such good advice. So, who the hell is rating Sunsoarer down? Who is so dumb as to do this? Has Sunsoarer ever said anything wrong? I think not!
This is a very useful thread. Thanks for all the information provided.
I'm a level 69++ enh shaman that is collecting gear getting ready to respec to Ele once I reach 70 because my guild prefers to have Ele shaman in their raids.
Really enjoyed the journey to 70 as enhancement shaman, I love bashing people in their face :P (I guess I should have been a warrior). But I hated it when I was kited in PVP, felt like an idiot.
Hope I'll have as much fun as Ele.
BTW, is there a similar thread on gearing for Ele? E.g. what should be priority?
(Stats -int, +Sp +crit, mp5 in that order?)
I'm a level 69++ enh shaman that is collecting gear getting ready to respec to Ele once I reach 70 because my guild prefers to have Ele shaman in their raids.
Really enjoyed the journey to 70 as enhancement shaman, I love bashing people in their face :P (I guess I should have been a warrior). But I hated it when I was kited in PVP, felt like an idiot.
Hope I'll have as much fun as Ele.
BTW, is there a similar thread on gearing for Ele? E.g. what should be priority?
(Stats -int, +Sp +crit, mp5 in that order?)
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Totally true. I almost always rate him up because he gives such good advice. So, who the hell is rating Sunsoarer down? Who is so dumb as to do this? Has Sunsoarer ever said anything wrong? I think not!
I was too much of a smartass when I first started posting here and got my rating put through the floor :-)
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BTW, is there a similar thread on gearing for Ele? E.g. what should be priority?
(Stats -int, +Sp +crit, mp5 in that order?)
(Stats -int, +Sp +crit, mp5 in that order?)
Assuming Sp is spellpower and not spirit you are spot on.
Well soarer, im going to be giving you rank ups whenever i can, as you are a hell of a lot smarter than me at this game (from what i have seen) and somehow i got scholar.
GWynand wrote:
Aethien wrote:
a little offtopic, but how is it possible Sunsoarer isnt a scholar yet? oO
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
In pretty much every post i see he is helpful and gives good advise.
Totally true. I almost always rate him up because he gives such good advice. So, who the hell is rating Sunsoarer down? Who is so dumb as to do this? Has Sunsoarer ever said anything wrong? I think not!
Yes, he has.
No one's right all the time. Not Sun, not me, not nobody, not nohow.
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Stats -int, +Sp +crit, mp5 in that order?)
actually they go a little more like this
(+spell crit, +spell power, +intellect, mp5)
getting crits with elemental is crucial to maintaining our fragile mana pool
with the clearcasting spec ability the more crits you get the more mana you save.
elemental shamans are burst damage, I.E. more damage = opponents dead quicker
this one is self explanitory, more mana, more spells
regenerating mana is nice but you wont have to if you can build a hefty pool and conserve it.
Also, no dont melee when your solo'ing, just cast spells and the mobs will go down much quicker in my experience. and enjoy being elemental, it is O-so fun =D
Edited, Nov 11th 2007 5:43pm by Draeneipally
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