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#27 Nov 15 2007 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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The part where it says how Aimed Shot gets a 'C' because it isn't that great should be edited. With patch 2.3, it gets the 50% healing reduction, which is definitely a must-have.
#28 Nov 16 2007 at 3:30 AM Rating: Decent
GWynand wrote:
The part where it says how Aimed Shot gets a 'C' because it isn't that great should be edited. With patch 2.3, it gets the 50% healing reduction, which is definitely a must-have.
For a very short amount of time, and it still won't be something you can use consistantly in a shot rotation. Thus, not really a must have in it's own right.

Mortal Shots though, there's a must have as a DPS class in a raid, and thus Aimed Shot becomes a must have purely because of Mortal Shots.
#29 Dec 09 2007 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
hi i am new to WoW. i have a 19 mage i do warsong a lot but i didnt like him for pvp and thats what i want to do. so i made a hunter. i really like him but im wonrdering where to put my talent points. i was thinking either 5/5/0 5/5 for aspect of hawk and 5/5 leathal shots or 0/7/3 5 for leathal 2 for efficency and 3 for hunamiod or hawk eye. help is greatly appreciated.
#30 Dec 10 2007 at 2:17 AM Rating: Excellent
newbhuntard wrote:
hi i am new to WoW. i have a 19 mage i do warsong a lot but i didnt like him for pvp and thats what i want to do. so i made a hunter. i really like him but im wonrdering where to put my talent points. i was thinking either 5/5/0 5/5 for aspect of hawk and 5/5 leathal shots or 0/7/3 5 for leathal 2 for efficency and 3 for hunamiod or hawk eye. help is greatly appreciated.


1) decide which talent tree appeals the most to you (pick either marksman or beastmaster for leveling, surival is not that good for leveling, only shines at level 70).

2) After you decided for one of those trees, put your talent points into that tree to reach the nice talents at the end of the tree.

3) After you have put ~41 points into that tree (to get the top tier talent, which usually is the best of those), you can spend the rest of your points in another talent tree.

For talent builds you can have a look here. There you can find some commonly used talent builds and see for yourself what will work and what won't. However as always its your game and you have to enjoy it, so try some things and if they don't work for you, respec.
#31 Jan 22 2008 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Just wanted to say great job on this FAQ about hunters, one of the best I've seen on these forums. I just made a hunter (level 8 woohooo) so this is a perfect beginning to my hunting career. I started as a rogue, then lock, mage, Pally, now hunter and this is the best FAQ between those (though the mage one is right up there). Thanks again, I know this must have taken some time.
#33 Mar 08 2008 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
i know there is real no best spec for hunter but i was told that beast mastery is the best for a low lvl hunter (37) but im looking more into marks now... how do i change and is it worth it if i can? and if i do change can i move my points from beast mastery into marks or are they there forever? and when i get lvl 70 do i still get talent points or am i stuck with what i have when i get to 70?

Edited, Mar 9th 2008 11:27am by Musashibo
#34 Mar 09 2008 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
It may have been somewhere in the guide, but I did not find it, so please forgive me if this is a question you have answered a lot.
I have a 56 hunter with a level 6 loyalty pet. I love my pet but would like to try a new one. I know I can stable my current pet, but would it be worth the effort to train a new pet? It is the only pet I have ever had. Is it very difficult to regain that much loyalty this far into leveling?
#35 Mar 09 2008 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
Musashibo wrote:
i know there is real no best spec for hunter but i was told that beast mastery is the best for a low lvl hunter (37) but im looking more into marks now... how do i change and is it worth it if i can? and if i do change can i move my points from beast mastery into marks or are they there forever? and when i get lvl 70 do i still get talent points or am i stuck with what i have when i get to 70?

Edited, Mar 9th 2008 11:27am by Musashibo



There is no best spec, but beast mastery is great for leveling (and marksman is also ok).

You can change your talents at every major city. Ask a guard for the hunter trainer. He will charge you some gold (I believe 1g the first time, then 5g, 10g, ..., till 50g for a respec).

Every time you unlearn your talents you can distribute them as you whish.

At 70 you are stuck with 51 talent points from which you have to chose your talents.
#36 Mar 09 2008 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
WardenAbigale wrote:
It may have been somewhere in the guide, but I did not find it, so please forgive me if this is a question you have answered a lot.
I have a 56 hunter with a level 6 loyalty pet. I love my pet but would like to try a new one. I know I can stable my current pet, but would it be worth the effort to train a new pet? It is the only pet I have ever had. Is it very difficult to regain that much loyalty this far into leveling?


It is not very difficult to level the loyalty of your pet. However it still might take some time (a few hours of normal questing should be enough).

Stable your old pet, tame a new one, teach it growl (else it won't be able to hold the mobs against your damage).
Use it for some time and see for yourself it is a pet you like. Loyalty will come with time, don't worry about it.
#37 Mar 09 2008 at 11:19 PM Rating: Good
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Mulgrin wrote:
There is no best spec, but beast mastery is great for leveling (and marksman is also ok).

You can change your talents at every major city. Ask a guard for the hunter trainer. He will charge you some gold (I believe 1g the first time, then 5g, 10g, ..., till 50g for a respec).fee's go down 1 step for every (month i think) you dont respec.

Every time you unlearn your talents you can distribute them as you whish.

At 70 you are stuck with 5 61 talent points from which you have to chose your talents.
Fixed for you Mulgrin, you nub ;)
#38 Mar 10 2008 at 12:42 AM Rating: Good
Aethien wrote:
Mulgrin wrote:
There is no best spec, but beast mastery is great for leveling (and marksman is also ok).

You can change your talents at every major city. Ask a guard for the hunter trainer. He will charge you some gold (I believe 1g the first time, then 5g, 10g, ..., till 50g for a respec).fee's go down 1 step for every (month i think) you dont respec.

Every time you unlearn your talents you can distribute them as you whish.

At 70 you are stuck with 5 61 talent points from which you have to chose your talents.
Fixed for you Mulgrin, you nub ;)


Ouch, that hurt. Go spam more in WoW Main Aethien :-)

61 talent points is of course correct (what was I smoking at that time? *g*).

Respec costs go down 1 step per month in which you did not respec.
However I respec so often, there is no month without a respec for me, so I did not remember that.
#39 Mar 10 2008 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I respec for PvP nearly every weekend and i remembered ;)
#40 Apr 07 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Great Guide :D Has been really useful for me :)
#41 Apr 22 2008 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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here's some pictures for trapping that people said are fairly useful

You probably want to to fire more then one arrow at the mob, if you have time to ensure the healer doesn't peel it off. I usually hit steady shot and then spam arcane so that you get 3 hits off at once for a bunch of threat. If you are MM then you can also use silencing shot to pull the caster mobs towards you.

Always put traps away from the group, and plan your kite path so that the location of the second trap is between the mob and where you will be firing at the other enemies.

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Edited, Apr 22nd 2008 5:07pm by Xsarus
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#42REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2008 at 6:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) One thing I need to point out or really ask about is the Cookie Cutter build. I notice only 1 point in Endurance Training and then Animal Handler wich only adds 8% movement speed wich does not stack with other enhancements.Wich means when I activate aspect of the cheetah it doesn't work.I feel those points are waisted when I could put them into endurance training for more health. And 5 points into aspect of the hawk. Can someone fill me in on this. Just curious.
#43 May 06 2008 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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The movement speed bonus is for mounts only, and AotC does not affect mounts, only land speed, which the talent does not improve. The hit rating gained by the talent produces more DPS than its alternatives.
#44 May 06 2008 at 9:46 PM Rating: Default
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it.
#45 May 06 2008 at 11:17 PM Rating: Excellent
The main point for speccing into animal handler is the 4% hit your pet gets. There is no other way to increase the hit chance of your pet. Hitting 4% more often is at least 4% more damage and it helps your pet keeping up ferocious inspiration and frenzy.

You want improved aspect of the hawk because that talent is great (a chance to attack faster and thus do a lot more damage is nice).
Endurance training only increases the hit points of you and your pet. The cookie cutter build does not aim for solo play. It tries to maximize damage in raids. Hit points are not a big issue in a raid, thus you do not spec for more hit points, but for more damage.
#46 May 07 2008 at 2:09 AM Rating: Good
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Mulgrin wrote:
The main point for speccing into animal handler is the 4% hit your pet gets. There is no other way to increase the hit chance of your pet. Hitting 4% more often is at least 4% more damage and it helps your pet keeping up ferocious inspiration and frenzy.
WRONG! :P
Dreanei racial also increases your pet's +hit, and pets are likely a 1 roll system (1 roll to determine wether the pet hits, misses or crits), a.k.a increasing +hit doesnt increase the chance to crit.
(while this is true for hunters, we use a 2 roll system. First roll to decide hit or miss, second to crit or hit)

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You want improved aspect of the hawk because that talent is great (a chance to attack faster and thus do a lot more damage is nice).
For BM at least, the other 2 specs it is arguable wether or not it helps and it depends greatly on gear.







yes, I'm nitpicking here but i couldnt resist correcting you :)
#47 May 07 2008 at 3:06 AM Rating: Good
Aethien wrote:
Dreanei racial also increases your pet's +hit

Yeah, like it is every day that you are grouped with a Draenei who has the melee +hit :-)
I was grouped with a Draenei warrior once or twice, most of the time however I'm grouped with no Draenei or with a Draenei shaman and have a whopping +1% spell hit.
I don't think that I'll include the Draenei racial everywhere just because you might have one in your group once in a year.


Aethien wrote:
and pets are likely a 1 roll system (1 roll to determine wether the pet hits, misses or crits), a.k.a increasing +hit doesnt increase the chance to crit.

That I must have missed. Would you mind linking me a good resource for this?
Until now I did not know anyone has tested whether pets use a 1 or 2 roll system.

Aethien wrote:
For BM at least, the other 2 specs it is arguable wether or not it helps and it depends greatly on gear.

You do know that the discussion was about a BM cookie cutter raid spec? I don't mind you scanning my posts for errors, but I like to answer questions, not writing pages on pages about all specs when the question is clearly focused on a single talent in a given spec.

Aethien wrote:
yes, I'm nitpicking here but i couldnt resist correcting you :)


I start hating you just a little right now *g*.

edit: spelling & quotation fixes

Edited, May 7th 2008 1:07pm by Mulgrin
#48 May 07 2008 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Mulgrin wrote:
Aethien wrote:
Dreanei racial also increases your pet's +hit

Yeah, like it is every day that you are grouped with a Draenei who has the melee +hit :-)
there are also quite a lot of dreanei hunters out there who give their pet a boost in hit :)
And those hunters are likely to be grouped with other hunters.
(I usually have a dreanei hunter in my group..... now if only he'd be capable of either listening to my advice or doing more than 700dps..... :'( )

Also, I'm not saying you should include it everywhere I'm just terribly bored :P


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Aethien wrote:
and pets are likely a 1 roll system (1 roll to determine wether the pet hits, misses or crits), a.k.a increasing +hit doesnt increase the chance to crit.

That I must have missed. Would you mind linking me a good resource for this?
Until now I did not know anyone has tested whether pets use a 1 or 2 roll system.
Its nearly impossible to test because of the very limited options, but for as far as i know it is assumed that pets are a 1 roll system.
Cheeky also has pets modeled as a 1 roll in his spreadsheet btw.
Not that it really makes that much of a difference in the end :P

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Aethien wrote:
yes, I'm nitpicking here but i couldnt resist correcting you :)
I start hating you just a little right now *g*.
<3 you to ;)
#49 May 07 2008 at 4:06 AM Rating: Excellent
Aethien wrote:
there are also quite a lot of dreanei hunters out there who give their pet a boost in hit :)
And those hunters are likely to be grouped with other hunters.

Yeah, but those hunters know of their racials (one would suspect so at least).

By the way, we have two NE and two dwarf hunters. I'd really like to have a Draenei hunter in my group, I'm 1% short of the hit cap (yes, with a SV spec sad but true).

Aethien wrote:
Also, I'm not saying you should include it everywhere I'm just terribly bored :P

I suspected as much, and as you can see by my activity here, I'm very also very bored.
#50 May 07 2008 at 6:13 PM Rating: Default
Oh! Crap!I didn't know that build was for raiding.>< I'm not ready for raiding.Was looking for a solo build =(.Any suggestions. I've only got 1 point into endurance and 5 in improv aspect of hawk so far. Do i need to respec.If so what do i need to do.Any topics for soloer's like myself.
#51 May 07 2008 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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It'll do very well for soloing too.
I know i really enjoyed having Imp. AotH when leveling.

You'll just want to skip Focused Fire for 2 more points in endurance training though.
this is mostly the standard raidbuild with only a few points moved around.
It will in this form provide both great damage and you'll be a solo monster :)
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