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I have recently respec'd to Destruction for Raiding/Group, Perhaps a bit of PvP on the side. And in all of the Sugested Destruction raiding builds, I see no Shadowfury. Why is that? My Talent build is under my Armory. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Fenris&n=Somnambulist

P.S. Please no comments on my gear,i am aware that it is bad. If any of you have suggestions I would be glad to hear, I am a relatively unexperienced warlock so any suggestions would help me.

I see this and I have to comment. If your guild is stupid enough to skip out on Mags and SSC to go spend 2-3 hours clearing trash to VR, you need a new guild.


Now, to the subject at hand:

The reason talent builds skip SF is because it has no raid utility. Take 2 points out of Imp Fire Bolt and put them into DS, sac succubus and see what it does to your DPS.

/offtopic


erm.. lol you are right.. if forgot about maggy and SSC.. I wrote what I wrote because I have personally went in those. (come to think about it I was in maggy too). Guild is doing ssc too.. just did not sign for those raids lol.. last night we downed Al'ar on Voidreaver...(me included^_^ ) We want to try Solarium.
My guid is not the best on the server.. but it's a decent one ... with raids almost everyday...nice people.. helpfull.. im pritty happy with it ^_^.

/offtopic ^_^

Also.. i see he is firebased.. so he should sac the imp (succy for shadow).. but i personally go for shadow .. that 20% shadow debuff really takes your shadobolts on a new lvl.... adn if you are going for shadowdmg.. i don't really think that 5/5 emberstorm is worth it only for imo/conf... (kinda personal preference..) i would use 3/3 soulleach and 2/3 NP... just my personal preference.. (latency sux when u try to conf at the last second and u miss it :) )

Do you mean to tell me your guild is absolutely full of people that are too stupid to click a cube? That in your entire guild there are not 10 people smart enough to handle that job? But this doesn't speak of a deeper problem to you? Literally, in the 25 man group, there is 1 person who cannot be a clicker, the main tank. Yes, it's a stupid mechanic, but if you can't figure that out I doubt you'll be able to get through the spacing on Kael, the tosses on Vashj, or even the adds on Tidewalker.

1) Turn on target cast bars.

2) Move to cubes 20 seconds early.

3) Click when he begins to cast.

4) Repeat steps 2 and 3 every 90 seconds and collect loot in 7-10 minutes.

What's the problem?

simply put. shadowfury isn't a pve ability (yes there are the occasional situations where it's useful, but otherwise it's not). for destruction 0/21/40 is the best build simply because instead of shadowfury you get a 15% bonus to shadow/fire (and in certain situations you're better off going for the hp or mana regen)

but yeah, if you want to do some pvp on the side, something like a 17/0/44 build will be a much better choice

I guess I have a different perspective just because of how my guild got started, but I think I can help you out with your problem (my solution is to normally not allow people who can't follow directions into raids).


After the channeler phase, put a healer on each pair of clickers standing right by the box. If something goes wrong, the healer is a back up for either on of them. This also allows your clickers to hold down the channel for the full duration so that the DPS can enjoy the tasty little vulnerability. People are always going to mess up, Mags is very unforgiving (to the point where we've been killing him for over a month and still get 1 wipe a night). The only thing you can do is make sure all your clickers have back up.

Edited, Nov 4th 2007 6:15pm by Loki

I just ate 2 Leo wipes at under 5% this weekend, so I know just what you mean about morale taking a dive. As far as the Mags fight goes, I don't know if you remember when I left my last guild to form the one I'm in now. My main motivation was that the guild couldn't down Mags and wanted to skip him. I wish Bliz would put the SSC attunement back into the game for that reason.

We have been using feral druids to tank mags since it's all straight damage and the armor cap > him and running with 8 healers won't hurt your DPS enough to make it matter. His enrage timer is so far into the distance there isn't any reason rush yourselves after the channelers.