When I first joined WoW over a year ago, I joined alliance and went with a Pally. After I hit 40 I told myself that I would never make a healer again, and decided to jump into DPS with a Rogue.
After a year of leveling him and other Alts I have become bored :( Yeah, we get new Race's but never new class's.
Don't dare tell me that Dark Knights are going to be a new class. Its a year till they come out and I already hate them. Why? Firstly I enjoy the whole leveling from 1-50. Yeah its sad, but you learn all about your class, and you can slowly see you skill with the toon improve.
Anyways, back to the story. So after making just about every class and loosing interest very quickly, I decided to make a priest. I had always liked the idea of a SPriest, but after asking people, they always replied "Its good at first, but you always get pushed into healing".
Well I decided anyway that I would. Why the hell not? Its either that or I pack up the game and move on...
So over a weekend me and 2 mates decided to roll Horde (ALways been Alliance) on Sylvana. Over the weekend we hit 20. Only from questing, no instancing.
Well last night I decided that I needed to run WC or DM or something to improve my gear. So I joined a group to run WC. It was Me, Hunter, Rogue, Warrior and Shammy. Straight away I knew that I would be healing.
In my old Server, Burning Blade, even Shadows Priests would be forced to heal. Even if there was a Pally. It was a sort of, If you dont want to heal, dont roll one kind of attitude. We even had one guy ask the Pally to heal so he could DPS, but recieved a blunt response.
Well we started the instance, me standing at the back healing the warrior when the Shaman /w me.
"Mate, If you want, I can heal and you can DPS. You can just support me if my mana's low".
Suprised I /w him back thanks, and proceeded to DPS the entire instance, now and again during large pulls (mainly due to the hunter) or boss's standing back after a few dots and healing. For the first time in AGES I actually reallyu enjoyed the instance.
After I went to AH, sold some extra stuff, and repaired. I then with in about 10 mins joined and was summoned into another group for DM. There was Warrior, Rogues, Mage Pally and Me. Before we started I got a "Mosho. Are you healer?"
Usually in my old server it wouldnt matter. But I answered "No. Im shadow".
"NP mate. Pally you heal kk?"
Pally: "Sure".
To some people this may be normal, but though the year or so I played WoW i had never seen this. People where actually respecting the fact that I had chosen Shadow as to DPS rather than heal. I said that I would also support heal when needed to. Again the instance ran smoothly.
2 Weeks ago I was ready to cancel my subs to WoW. Today, I sit at work itching to logg back on my account and level my SPriest. In a matter of a weekend I have found my love of WoW.
Sorry for such a long story, but thanks for reading.
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Monty pythons comes to mind, you lucky lucky.... I go into any instance these days even with one or two other healers like druids/paladins or shamans I alway still get "you priest, you heal". Grats to you though.
Transfer to Sylvana. Seems to be a more adult mature crowd. People seem to respect each other, which makes you respect them. All I know is that so far its SO much better then my old server Burning Blade.
Congrats on finding your niche in the WoW community!
Personally I've always been disgusted by the apparent double standard (at least on my server) between off spec Shamans, Pallys, Druids and Priests. If the shammy or pally says they're Enhancement or Retribution (I think that's it) they're not expected to have to heal, but if you happen to be a priest you're expected to heal whether you're holy or shadow. I've seen it happen more than once when we've had a group of 4 ready to go, the pally says he's Retribution and therefore can't heal, and the next thing you know it's "LF1M... healer for ZF" or wherever. If the priest did that, it would be /kick. Unfair I tell you!
On the other hand, the Shadow Priests I've run into seem to cause their own problems. Many over here have the attitude of "I'm Shadow, I DON'T HEAL!" That's not great either, imho.
As the OP said, he was willing to heal if that's what his group needed. I agree that the reason you spec shadow is for DPS and not healing, but we can do it just fine. One of the best healers I've ever had in a group was a shadow priest..... hence why I had to have one! Just be prepared for the occasional group that really wants you to heal.
My baby priest is only a 24, so she's not really "anything" yet, but all her talents are in shadow. I have every intention of carting around a big bag of healing gear just in case I'm called on to heal. Not my first choice with her, but I'll do it if I have to.
Ok, enough ranting. Sorry. Congrats again and enjoy your priest.... what server was that again??? Lol.
Personally I've always been disgusted by the apparent double standard (at least on my server) between off spec Shamans, Pallys, Druids and Priests. If the shammy or pally says they're Enhancement or Retribution (I think that's it) they're not expected to have to heal, but if you happen to be a priest you're expected to heal whether you're holy or shadow. I've seen it happen more than once when we've had a group of 4 ready to go, the pally says he's Retribution and therefore can't heal, and the next thing you know it's "LF1M... healer for ZF" or wherever. If the priest did that, it would be /kick. Unfair I tell you!
On the other hand, the Shadow Priests I've run into seem to cause their own problems. Many over here have the attitude of "I'm Shadow, I DON'T HEAL!" That's not great either, imho.
As the OP said, he was willing to heal if that's what his group needed. I agree that the reason you spec shadow is for DPS and not healing, but we can do it just fine. One of the best healers I've ever had in a group was a shadow priest..... hence why I had to have one! Just be prepared for the occasional group that really wants you to heal.
My baby priest is only a 24, so she's not really "anything" yet, but all her talents are in shadow. I have every intention of carting around a big bag of healing gear just in case I'm called on to heal. Not my first choice with her, but I'll do it if I have to.
Ok, enough ranting. Sorry. Congrats again and enjoy your priest.... what server was that again??? Lol.
Lol. Sylvana. Transfer your priest. U can heal. I cant. Im shadow :)
The fact is, there are so few healing specced healers at low levels that typically someone will be unhappy. Someone who doesn't really want to heal will have to to make things work.
This used to always be the priest, due to the idea (partly Blizz's fault) that priests were the benchmark healing class. What's changed? Well, oddly enough, it's because of raiding. Blizzard's balancing of the high-end healing classes has caused people to not feel they have to have a priest; furthermore, the demand for shadowpriests for mana battery /group healing duties in the end game has trickled down, making them desired in groups on their own merits instead of seen as a lame version of the ideal.
I still can't abide those who say that because they're shadow they refuse to heal. That's just stupid, and hurts your cause. If you really want to spread the word of shadow, say, "Okay, sure I'll heal," then at the end throw out a few Mind Flays and say, "Guess what? I was shadow all along!"
This used to always be the priest, due to the idea (partly Blizz's fault) that priests were the benchmark healing class. What's changed? Well, oddly enough, it's because of raiding. Blizzard's balancing of the high-end healing classes has caused people to not feel they have to have a priest; furthermore, the demand for shadowpriests for mana battery /group healing duties in the end game has trickled down, making them desired in groups on their own merits instead of seen as a lame version of the ideal.
I still can't abide those who say that because they're shadow they refuse to heal. That's just stupid, and hurts your cause. If you really want to spread the word of shadow, say, "Okay, sure I'll heal," then at the end throw out a few Mind Flays and say, "Guess what? I was shadow all along!"
Yea, I've done that, mostly while leveling from 60 to 70. People make comments about how good a healer I was, then I shift into shadowform before hearthing out at the end :D
The thing about ret pallies and enhance shammies is that their gear has NO caster stats on it. Spriests, elemental shammies, and doomkin have gear that's basically interchangable between healing and damaging until you get to at least mid-50's.
The thing about ret pallies and enhance shammies is that their gear has NO caster stats on it. Spriests, elemental shammies, and doomkin have gear that's basically interchangable between healing and damaging until you get to at least mid-50's.
It may be your server, but it may be Horde on your server.
I've been Horde for life on Scarlet Crusade, and while I don't deny that there are idiots, I'm very used to people being fine with shadow priests at mid levels.
I've been Horde for life on Scarlet Crusade, and while I don't deny that there are idiots, I'm very used to people being fine with shadow priests at mid levels.
Glad you are having fun. I think shadow priests have come into their own, partly because there are other classes that heal quite well.
I enjoy grouping with shadow priests. A holy and a shadow usually make a pretty good team.
I enjoy grouping with shadow priests. A holy and a shadow usually make a pretty good team.
Once you hit the Outlands, people become MUCH more understanding about a Shadow Priest preferring to DPS. That mana stream is just too awesome.
But part of the reason Shadowpriests get asked to heal so often is that they heal better as offspec than the true hybrids. Many Feral Druids and Enhancement Shamans don't have any gear that would let them heal effectively. Boomkin and Elemental Shamans are usually better off gearwise, but unless they've put a few points in their healing tree, they can't match the healing options of a Shadowpriest.
On the other hand, Retpallys and Protpallies can heal well even though offspec, and many of them have some Holy talents too.
But part of the reason Shadowpriests get asked to heal so often is that they heal better as offspec than the true hybrids. Many Feral Druids and Enhancement Shamans don't have any gear that would let them heal effectively. Boomkin and Elemental Shamans are usually better off gearwise, but unless they've put a few points in their healing tree, they can't match the healing options of a Shadowpriest.
On the other hand, Retpallys and Protpallies can heal well even though offspec, and many of them have some Holy talents too.
Hmm. After reading this post, im definately looking into making a SPriest. I though that even if they didnt spec holy they would be pushed into the healing role. Seems it may be different.
Il roll one on Sylvana :)
Il roll one on Sylvana :)
I've got 2 spriests right now, one lvl 40, one lvl 23. I usually main heal, and when I feel the need to DPS, throw out Vampiric + SW:P. Then there is always wanding them to death FTW... LOL
I always let my PUG groups know I'm shadow, but that I can/will heal. Plus I carry healing gear with me always. Although right now I'm needing to upgrade some stuff.
I always let my PUG groups know I'm shadow, but that I can/will heal. Plus I carry healing gear with me always. Although right now I'm needing to upgrade some stuff.
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