Hi everyone, there have been complaints that newbies get lost reading our "every question answered here" stickie and that a guide "for real newbs" is needed (so we can just respond with the link and get them on their way easily).
So, I've taken a stab at it. Here it is. It's not quite finished, and it may need some corrections. Please let me know if something needs fixing or adding. Thanks much!
(note, I'm assuming people can figure out how to activate autoattack and certain basics here. This may be an error, but we shall see).
BASIC NEWBIE HUNTER GUIDE (most newbie questions about hunters answered here)
UP TO LEVEL 10 (HOW TO LEVEL WITH NO PET)
When you start as a hunter, you won’t have a pet for 10 levels. You’ll spend a lot of time getting two shots at creatures, which charge you and force you to melee them down. It gets tiresome because you’re not very good at meleeing (also, don’t get too used to this – you do way, way more damage with a gun, bow or crossbow – so remember, your ultimate goal is to get a pet which will keep your target busy for you (called “tankingâ€) while you SHOOT from range).
The easiest way I’ve found to get through the first 10 levels is to get better melee weapons ASAP. Usually there is a lvl 3 or so newbie quest for a weapon upgrade. Then, get a “green†weapon as early as possible – certainly by level six. A “green†weapon uses the color green in its name (I guess it’s like a “magic weapon,†whereas gray and white names on weapons are “non-magic). If you have a higher level character or friend, have them send you a “green†weapon in the mail, so you only have to run to the “middle town†to get it (instead of having to go all the way to the big city).
If you don’t have anyone to help you, you’ll have to get 50 silver to a gold or so to buy one on the Auction House in the nearby major city. To earn money quickly, you’ll want to get a “gathering skill†like mining ASAP (people usually train mining and skinning or herbalism and skinning). If you can mine 20 pieces of copper, smelt them at a forge into copper bars and sell them at the Auction House in the city, you will almost certainly have enough money to buy a “green†lvl 6-ish weapon off the Auction House. This weapon will greatly improve your melee damage-dealing, and you can level to 10 much faster.
“But wait, how do I find all those things?†Right click most guards (even guards in the “middle town†work), and they’ll tell you. Each newbie area has a “starting village.†There are only basics here – and there are no trainers in mining, skinning or herbalism. There are no mining or herbalism nodes here, either. If you go up the “main road†you’ll find a “middle town†– and beyond that, often in the same direction, a major city. The mining, herbalism and skinning trainers will be in one of those two places. Around the “middle town†you will find mining and herbalism nodes to harvest (oh, if you train for mining, get a pick from a vender who stands by the trainer – skinners must buy a skinning knife – for mining and herbalism you get a button to click in your character menu that allows you to see nodes as yellow dots on your minimap – for skinning you just right click animals that you kill after looting them). Anyway, mine, skin and/or pick herbs; sell them on the AH; collect your money; and buy a cool “green†weapon on the AH (collect what you buy from the AH (and money your earn from the AH) in the mailbox). Try to buy a “green†weapon you already know how to use (you may have to travel to a far-away city to train to be able to use other weapons – and that’s beyond the scope of this guide).
Anyway, you get your “green†weapon. You’ll kill much faster with it. As you level up, get new hunter abilities. Sting is good. Concussive shot might let you get in one more shot before your target closes to melee range. Remember, of course, to use Raptor Strike as often as possible while meleeing, and do as many quests as you can find until you hit lvl 10.
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:06pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:08pm by IponemaGirl
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LEVEL 10 (OR WHAT IS THE BEST, MOST UBEREST PET I CAN GET?!?!)
Yay, you are now level 10! It’s now time to do your first major class quest: learning how to train and use pets. You will have to train three “disposable†pets (which you will not keep). This will be given by the hunter trainer in the “middle town.†Then you have to go to the main city to finish the quest (and learn how to feed pets, and other important skills). Right click a city guard to find the city hunter trainer; this is where the quest is finished. After that, go out and find an animal to train.
You want one close to your level – 8 or 9 will do (you can train lower level beasts, but much lower than 8 means your pet will be a little weak until it catches up with you – you can train a pet up to your level but not over your level). You just get in range, target the animal, and click the training button you got from the quest series above (it looks like a hand holding a stick). A few animals stun you or somehow break the training process and are harder to train, but for the most part, it’s very easy.
Gratz on your first pet. All you do, from now until you quit WoW, is click pet attack. While the pet "tanks," you shoot from afar (and do your stings, arcane shots, hunter's mark and whatnot). Teach your pet Growl to help him "hold agro" found in your spellbook's GENERAL section (for some reason). It's pretty simple, though as you advance, you'll learn a lot of tricks to play better and smarter. You can quit reading now and play a while. Come back and read if there are still things you don't get or can't figure out on your own.
“Wait,†you might be asking. “What does he eat? How do I feed him? Did I get the ‘best pet?’ Or did I get a crappy one???â€
Calm down. There is a button you get when you do the pet-training quest series (it looks like a doggie bone). Click that, then click on appropriate food in your inventory – and the pet will eat. Look for the little face on your pet’s icon. If it’s reddish and frowning, he’s unhappy and hungry. You risk losing loyalty levels (or having the pet abandon you if he’s at the lowest loyalty level – it won’t happen immediately, but don’t fool around; get the pet some food) if you don’t feed him. If he’s yellowish and neither frowning nor smiling, he’s okay with you – he is gaining loyalty. If it’s green and smiling, he’s happy and gaining more loyalty. Feed him one food item at a time; he doesn’t get happier faster from being force-fed (it just wastes food – look at the combat log to see if he’s “gaining happiness†and to see how long it takes him to eat – combat nixes happiness gains from food, so try not to fight right after feeding the pet).
If you train a cool pet and are afraid you’re going to lose it because it’s unhappy and you have no food for it, don’t panic. Pop it in the stables in a town (this is an NPC character who is near the inn; in The Crossroads he’s behind the inn). I believe you can also safely just tell the pet to Stay (a little button on the toolbar) and run away from him until he auto-dismisses (get food, use the “whistle†button to call him, feed him right away).
BUT HOW DO I TELL WHAT TO FEED MY PET?!
You don’t have to shout at me, please.
YES I DO. I’M ALL “EMO†TODAY, AND I’M PANCIKING! TELL ME NOW!
Okay! Most pets eat meat, like the jerky you seem to loot a lot at low levels. Bats are picky eaters, only going for fruit or fungus. I’d go to PETOPIA at brashendeavors.net to research your pet before you train it (so you can make sure you have a stack of food it likes).
It's hard to find meat for sale in the Night Elf areas. But you can always learn to fish (another skill): many pets eat fish. Save meat, bread and fruit that you loot. Pay attention to which venders sell what. Write it down. See the end of the guide for more tips on food.
BUT MY PET DOESN’T HOLD AGRO! THE TARGET STILL CHARGES ME!
You need to train your pet to GROWL. When you did the big city part of your pet quest series, you got a Training Button (at time of writing, it appears in your general character menu and not your beast skills menu). The button has a picture of a “Y†or slingshot on it. Open it and click on GROWL. Now your pet will taunt, and it will hold agro much better (meaning the target will “get mad at†your pet and attack your pet – not you). Make sure Growl is on autocast (the button should “sparkle†– right click it to toggle it on and off).
BUT NOW MY PET IS DYING!
That’s okay. The pet is supposed to die; not you. Get somewhere safe, find the “resurrect pet†button (a hand), and click it (you do not have to be anywhere near your pet's body to do this). Feed the pet (they lose happiness on death). Wait a moment for it to heal up before fighting (or learn First Aid from a trainer in town and bandage the pet). Keep questing and get to level 12, when you can buy Mend Pet. With that you can toss a “heal over time†spell on your pet, which will keep it from dying so often. Keep it healed, and it shouldn’t die too often.
BUT WAIT! I WANT THE BEST PET, AND YOU’RE NOT TELLING ME WHAT IT IS!
Okay, relax. The best starting pet is … are you ready? A boar!
I’m not joking. Train a boar. There are boars in Dun Morogh (Dwarf land) and Durotar (Orc and Troll land). Taurens can run, if they want, down to the SE part of Mulgore, enter the Barrens, take the road north to Crossroads (get flight link), and go east to Durotar for a boar (*note* will be adding info on the eety beety piggies in Mulgore and Teldrassil newbie zones). It’s a long run, but I’d do it. Blood Elves can go to the Undercity via a teleporter in northwest* Silvermoon. Just north of the UC (outside) is a zeppelin tower. Take the zep to Orgrimmar, step out into Durotar – and train the first boar you see (use Track Beasts to find one!). Night Elves and Draenei* are out of luck and should train a cat or bear (bears are easier to feed – or get a teleport to Ironforge (Dun Morogh) – or I’ll try to add directions for Night Elves to get to boar country (if you can’t get a teleport form a friend, it takes at least 20 minutes, more like 40 minutes)). Draenie might want to train a Ravager. Night Elves and Draenei who mine or something and have a gold or two to offer a mage for a teleport have a better chance of actually getting a teleport to Ironforge (where you can go out into Dun Morogh and find a boar).
NO WAY! BOARS ARE UGLY AND SMELL BAD (REALLY THEY DO!). A BOAR IS BEST?
Yes, a boar! Okay, the truth: there is no best pet. Assume the lotus position and repeat this mantra 10,000 times in your head: “there is no best pet.â€
BUT YOU JUST SAID THE BEST PET IS A BOAR!
There is no best pet. All pets work just fine. You can train a stupid level 6 crab. It will be a tad fragile until it catches up with you in levels (but it will; pets gain experience as long as you fight a “green†or better monster). And this stupid little crab can take you all the way to level 70 just fine. You can run high end instances with it.
SO A CRAB IS THE BEST PET?
No, there is no best pet.
I’M SO CONFUSED….
There is no best pet. Go to petopia (brashendeavors.net) and study their tables. Some pets are defensive or “tanking†pets because they have slightly higher health and/or armor. Some are offensive because they do a bit more damage. Some are medium or balanced because they are, well, balanced. But the differences are tiny. You can “tank†effectively with any pet. They all hold agro. They all do damage.
SO ALL PETS ARE THE SAME?
No. Situationally some pets are better than others. I wouldn’t worry about that too much starting out, but here’s a basic overview: pets with high AC and/or good hit points make good “off tanks†in instance runs; pets with good dps (damage per second) are good for pvp/bg/arena and instance runs where your job is pure dps; pets with at least decent defensive stats and the ability hold agro a little better than other pets arguably make better grinding or leveling or pve pets. Also, some pets have “racial†special abilities that make them shine in certain situations.
WAIT, YOU JUST WHOOSHED ME. I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT HALF THAT MEANT.
That’s okay. You don’t need to know most of that until much higher level.
BUT YOU SAID THE BOAR IS THE BEST PET – AND YOU SAID THERE IS NO BEST PET!
Right! It’s a “Zen thing.†There is no best pet, and the best starting pet is the boar. Here is why:
1. Boars eat almost anything. They are easy to feed.
2. Boars have good defensive stats and make great tanks – they last a little longer in hard fights.
3. With Bite and Gore, they can do okay damage.
4. They get Charge, which causes them to speed to their target. They’re the only pet with fast running speed before level 32. Multiplied times thousands of fights, it really makes a difference (if you do too much damage shooting before your pet reaches the target, the target will hate you so much that your pet will have trouble making it turn on him – thus most hunters have to wait before they start shooting - but not boar hunters, who can blast away because the boar gets to target very fast – try it; you’ll like it). Also, Charge gives the boar an attack bonus on its next hit, which helps it hold agro.
5. Boars are cute! They have butt-wiggle power! Just kidding, but not really (it’s another Zen thing). When I say “boar,†think “Pumba.†You’ll get used to your little piggie.
6. Oh, boars have use in pvp/bg/arena. When they Charge, they “immobilize†their target for a second, making it easier for your side to catch up with a fleeing target (or impairing your target’s ability to reach one of your friends). This is a very useful talent in pvp; only boars get it.
SO I HAVE TO GET A BOAR?
No! Get any pet you want. Go study petopia! Look around. Any pet will do. But if you can’t decide and you want literally “the best starting pet,†get a boar. I can tell you with all honesty that the boar will do a great job for you, and you’ll be very happy with it.
At this point I’d stop reading and go play a while. Come back if there are more things you have trouble with or can’t figure out. Good luck!
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:01pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:12pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:19pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:37am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:41am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 1:08pm by IponemaGirl
Yay, you are now level 10! It’s now time to do your first major class quest: learning how to train and use pets. You will have to train three “disposable†pets (which you will not keep). This will be given by the hunter trainer in the “middle town.†Then you have to go to the main city to finish the quest (and learn how to feed pets, and other important skills). Right click a city guard to find the city hunter trainer; this is where the quest is finished. After that, go out and find an animal to train.
You want one close to your level – 8 or 9 will do (you can train lower level beasts, but much lower than 8 means your pet will be a little weak until it catches up with you – you can train a pet up to your level but not over your level). You just get in range, target the animal, and click the training button you got from the quest series above (it looks like a hand holding a stick). A few animals stun you or somehow break the training process and are harder to train, but for the most part, it’s very easy.
Gratz on your first pet. All you do, from now until you quit WoW, is click pet attack. While the pet "tanks," you shoot from afar (and do your stings, arcane shots, hunter's mark and whatnot). Teach your pet Growl to help him "hold agro" found in your spellbook's GENERAL section (for some reason). It's pretty simple, though as you advance, you'll learn a lot of tricks to play better and smarter. You can quit reading now and play a while. Come back and read if there are still things you don't get or can't figure out on your own.
“Wait,†you might be asking. “What does he eat? How do I feed him? Did I get the ‘best pet?’ Or did I get a crappy one???â€
Calm down. There is a button you get when you do the pet-training quest series (it looks like a doggie bone). Click that, then click on appropriate food in your inventory – and the pet will eat. Look for the little face on your pet’s icon. If it’s reddish and frowning, he’s unhappy and hungry. You risk losing loyalty levels (or having the pet abandon you if he’s at the lowest loyalty level – it won’t happen immediately, but don’t fool around; get the pet some food) if you don’t feed him. If he’s yellowish and neither frowning nor smiling, he’s okay with you – he is gaining loyalty. If it’s green and smiling, he’s happy and gaining more loyalty. Feed him one food item at a time; he doesn’t get happier faster from being force-fed (it just wastes food – look at the combat log to see if he’s “gaining happiness†and to see how long it takes him to eat – combat nixes happiness gains from food, so try not to fight right after feeding the pet).
If you train a cool pet and are afraid you’re going to lose it because it’s unhappy and you have no food for it, don’t panic. Pop it in the stables in a town (this is an NPC character who is near the inn; in The Crossroads he’s behind the inn). I believe you can also safely just tell the pet to Stay (a little button on the toolbar) and run away from him until he auto-dismisses (get food, use the “whistle†button to call him, feed him right away).
BUT HOW DO I TELL WHAT TO FEED MY PET?!
You don’t have to shout at me, please.
YES I DO. I’M ALL “EMO†TODAY, AND I’M PANCIKING! TELL ME NOW!
Okay! Most pets eat meat, like the jerky you seem to loot a lot at low levels. Bats are picky eaters, only going for fruit or fungus. I’d go to PETOPIA at brashendeavors.net to research your pet before you train it (so you can make sure you have a stack of food it likes).
It's hard to find meat for sale in the Night Elf areas. But you can always learn to fish (another skill): many pets eat fish. Save meat, bread and fruit that you loot. Pay attention to which venders sell what. Write it down. See the end of the guide for more tips on food.
BUT MY PET DOESN’T HOLD AGRO! THE TARGET STILL CHARGES ME!
You need to train your pet to GROWL. When you did the big city part of your pet quest series, you got a Training Button (at time of writing, it appears in your general character menu and not your beast skills menu). The button has a picture of a “Y†or slingshot on it. Open it and click on GROWL. Now your pet will taunt, and it will hold agro much better (meaning the target will “get mad at†your pet and attack your pet – not you). Make sure Growl is on autocast (the button should “sparkle†– right click it to toggle it on and off).
BUT NOW MY PET IS DYING!
That’s okay. The pet is supposed to die; not you. Get somewhere safe, find the “resurrect pet†button (a hand), and click it (you do not have to be anywhere near your pet's body to do this). Feed the pet (they lose happiness on death). Wait a moment for it to heal up before fighting (or learn First Aid from a trainer in town and bandage the pet). Keep questing and get to level 12, when you can buy Mend Pet. With that you can toss a “heal over time†spell on your pet, which will keep it from dying so often. Keep it healed, and it shouldn’t die too often.
BUT WAIT! I WANT THE BEST PET, AND YOU’RE NOT TELLING ME WHAT IT IS!
Okay, relax. The best starting pet is … are you ready? A boar!
I’m not joking. Train a boar. There are boars in Dun Morogh (Dwarf land) and Durotar (Orc and Troll land). Taurens can run, if they want, down to the SE part of Mulgore, enter the Barrens, take the road north to Crossroads (get flight link), and go east to Durotar for a boar (*note* will be adding info on the eety beety piggies in Mulgore and Teldrassil newbie zones). It’s a long run, but I’d do it. Blood Elves can go to the Undercity via a teleporter in northwest* Silvermoon. Just north of the UC (outside) is a zeppelin tower. Take the zep to Orgrimmar, step out into Durotar – and train the first boar you see (use Track Beasts to find one!). Night Elves and Draenei* are out of luck and should train a cat or bear (bears are easier to feed – or get a teleport to Ironforge (Dun Morogh) – or I’ll try to add directions for Night Elves to get to boar country (if you can’t get a teleport form a friend, it takes at least 20 minutes, more like 40 minutes)). Draenie might want to train a Ravager. Night Elves and Draenei who mine or something and have a gold or two to offer a mage for a teleport have a better chance of actually getting a teleport to Ironforge (where you can go out into Dun Morogh and find a boar).
NO WAY! BOARS ARE UGLY AND SMELL BAD (REALLY THEY DO!). A BOAR IS BEST?
Yes, a boar! Okay, the truth: there is no best pet. Assume the lotus position and repeat this mantra 10,000 times in your head: “there is no best pet.â€
BUT YOU JUST SAID THE BEST PET IS A BOAR!
There is no best pet. All pets work just fine. You can train a stupid level 6 crab. It will be a tad fragile until it catches up with you in levels (but it will; pets gain experience as long as you fight a “green†or better monster). And this stupid little crab can take you all the way to level 70 just fine. You can run high end instances with it.
SO A CRAB IS THE BEST PET?
No, there is no best pet.
I’M SO CONFUSED….
There is no best pet. Go to petopia (brashendeavors.net) and study their tables. Some pets are defensive or “tanking†pets because they have slightly higher health and/or armor. Some are offensive because they do a bit more damage. Some are medium or balanced because they are, well, balanced. But the differences are tiny. You can “tank†effectively with any pet. They all hold agro. They all do damage.
SO ALL PETS ARE THE SAME?
No. Situationally some pets are better than others. I wouldn’t worry about that too much starting out, but here’s a basic overview: pets with high AC and/or good hit points make good “off tanks†in instance runs; pets with good dps (damage per second) are good for pvp/bg/arena and instance runs where your job is pure dps; pets with at least decent defensive stats and the ability hold agro a little better than other pets arguably make better grinding or leveling or pve pets. Also, some pets have “racial†special abilities that make them shine in certain situations.
WAIT, YOU JUST WHOOSHED ME. I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT HALF THAT MEANT.
That’s okay. You don’t need to know most of that until much higher level.
BUT YOU SAID THE BOAR IS THE BEST PET – AND YOU SAID THERE IS NO BEST PET!
Right! It’s a “Zen thing.†There is no best pet, and the best starting pet is the boar. Here is why:
1. Boars eat almost anything. They are easy to feed.
2. Boars have good defensive stats and make great tanks – they last a little longer in hard fights.
3. With Bite and Gore, they can do okay damage.
4. They get Charge, which causes them to speed to their target. They’re the only pet with fast running speed before level 32. Multiplied times thousands of fights, it really makes a difference (if you do too much damage shooting before your pet reaches the target, the target will hate you so much that your pet will have trouble making it turn on him – thus most hunters have to wait before they start shooting - but not boar hunters, who can blast away because the boar gets to target very fast – try it; you’ll like it). Also, Charge gives the boar an attack bonus on its next hit, which helps it hold agro.
5. Boars are cute! They have butt-wiggle power! Just kidding, but not really (it’s another Zen thing). When I say “boar,†think “Pumba.†You’ll get used to your little piggie.
6. Oh, boars have use in pvp/bg/arena. When they Charge, they “immobilize†their target for a second, making it easier for your side to catch up with a fleeing target (or impairing your target’s ability to reach one of your friends). This is a very useful talent in pvp; only boars get it.
SO I HAVE TO GET A BOAR?
No! Get any pet you want. Go study petopia! Look around. Any pet will do. But if you can’t decide and you want literally “the best starting pet,†get a boar. I can tell you with all honesty that the boar will do a great job for you, and you’ll be very happy with it.
At this point I’d stop reading and go play a while. Come back if there are more things you have trouble with or can’t figure out. Good luck!
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:01pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:12pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:19pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:37am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:41am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 1:08pm by IponemaGirl
OKAY, I GOT A BOAR. HE DID GREAT THE FIRST FIGHT, BUT THE SECOND FIGHT HE DIDN’T HOLD AGRO. WHAT’S GOING ON?
Okay, this is where playing a hunter gets tricky. Your Boar starts with Charge and Gore as his skills. You will teach him Growl – did you do that? If not, teach him Growl. Even with Growl he can still lose agro in follow up fights that occur right after a previous fight. Why? Your pet ran out of “focus.†Pets use “focus†like “mana†to power their abilities. A pet without focus can’t Growl and therefore can’t hold agro very well. You may want to turn off his offensive ability, Gore (right click it to toggle it on and off on the toolbar). Why? Gore uses up focus very quickly, as does Claw, which many other beasts get (boars obviously can never learn Claw – study Petopia to figure this all out). If you turn off Gore (or Claw for other pets), your boar will do slightly less damage, but he won’t use up all his focus in the first fight – and he can tank very well in an immediate, follow-up fight.
If you’re grinding a steady stream of monsters, it’s best at lower levels to have Gore and Claw off.
SO I CAN’T USE GORE - I HAVE TO FIGHT WITH A GIMPED PET?
No. Boars can also learn Bite. Unlike Growl, which you learned by finishing the training quest series (and which you upgrade every 10 levels at the trainer), Bite is a skill you must learn from another beast which already knows it. Isn’t that the coolest thing? This is why I originally bought WoW in the first place. I thought that was an awesome twist. Anyway, here’s how you do that. Find the “stables†(an NPC near the inn) and buy a slot for a few silver. Put your boar into that slot. Now go to Petopia and look up which rank of Bite is learnable by your lvl 10 Boar (we’ll pretend your Boar is level 10 for now). Oh look, he can learn Bite 2! Now look up the closest beast in the wild that knows Bite 2. Let’s pretend it’s a certain spider in Loch Modan. Head out to find that spider (use track beasts; see Allakhazam’s bestiary section for maps). Making sure no wandering bears are around to mess you up, target the spider and get to max range. Click the “train beast†button and get the spider trained. You’ll see Bite 2 on the toolbar. Teach it Growl and feed it a piece of jerky. Now kill stuff, with Bite 2 toggled on (the button should be sparkly) until you get a yellow text message telling you that you’ve learned the skill Bite 2. Now it’s in your training book or menu page. Abandon the spider (right click its icon, hit abandon command), get your boar out of the stables, and use your training button to teach it Bite 2.
Now you can safely hunt with Charge, Bite and Growl on. None of these use up focus terribly fast, and your boar will do okay damage.
I DID WHAT YOU SAID, BUT IT SAYS MY PET DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH TRAINING POINTS.
Right, your boar actually starts with “negative TPs†(to pay for the charge and gore skills). You need to fight with your pet a while, keeping it fed, to get it to gain loyalty levels. It gets more TPs the more it gains loyalty – and as it gains levels. Soon you’ll enough TPs tp buy Bite.
SHOULD I GET STAMINA, ARMOR, AND THE RESISTS – THOSE THINGS THE TRAINER OFFERS?
No. Not resists. Those are for specific uses at high levels. Greater Stamina is good. Natural Armor is okay. Don’t go crazy burning up your TPs. If you don’t like how you’ve spent them, pay for a reset and spend them again (more wisely).
SO I’LL NEVER USE GORE?
You will use gore. You can always left click the Gore button to have your pet do Gore on your command. And once you get the Beast Mastery talent Bestial Disciple (or a Marksman talent, Go for the Throat - both of these cause the pet to regen focus very quickly), then you can leave Gore (or Claw) on autocast (and have your pet do a good deal more damage). But that’s many levels away. Oh, if you pvp, turn Growl off and turn Gore on (and maybe turn Bite off). In pvp you don’t want your pet wasting focus growling – you want to max dps in most cases. Gore (and Claw) cast themselves pretty fast; that’s why they do more damage (but also use up focus very fast).
YOU JUST WHOOSHED ME AGAIN!
Don’t worry about it. You need to play a little to “get†all parts of this guide. Go play, then come back and re-read this. To be honest, you can level just fine using the old standby combo Bite and Growl. You may want to avoid pets that can only Claw (and not Bite) at lower levels. Again, a boar using Bite, Growl and Charge will be perfectly fine. A cat or bear using Bite and Growl will be perfectly fine. Or a raptor, a tallstrider, a bat or a croc using Bite and Growl will be perfectly fine. If you don’t like your pet, you can always “release it back to the wild†(well fed of course! Only a slime would release a hungry pet!) and train some new pet. Most pet “fine tuning†issues are for mid-to-high levels. For now, you just want a pet that is easy to feed and that holds agro (and for me, that gets to target fast – chaaaarge!) – in other words, a boar, the best starting pet.
EXCEPT THERE IS NO BEST PET.
Exactly. Now you’re getting it. Don’t fret over your pet. Repeat this 500 times: “way wayp wiy saah tal.â€
HUH?
That means “why are you worried about your pet when it’s your skills as a hunter that are lacking.â€
HEY, I’M A GOOD HUNTER! I SIC MY PET. I HAVE A KILLER 2H AX, AND I MELEE STUFF RIGHT NEXT TO MY BESTEST BUDDY!
Um, that’s the path to becoming a “huntard†– don’t do that. Remember what we discussed earlier, how the first 10 levels force you to melee, but you need to forget about that? Hunters do far, far, FAR more damage shooting than meleeing.
It’s time we learn the basic “THOU SHALT NOT BE A HUNTARD†creed (memorize this):
1. Thou shalt not run out of ammo. Thou shalt not begin an instance, group quest or battleground low on or without ammo.
2. Thou shalt not melee when getting to range and shooting is possible.
3. Thou shalt not break crowd control of other teammates (cc is like when a mage “sheeps†a target – if you attack it, it will “unsheep†and attack!).
4. Thou shalt remember to wingclip or concussive shot targets that run when low on health (and can get friends).
5. Thou shalt not leave ones pet on aggressive mode when instancing or group questing with others.
6. Thou shalt not melee when getting to range and shooting is possible.
7. Thou shalt not run out of ammo. Thou shalt not begin an instance, group quest or battleground low on or without ammo.
Okay, that’s good enough for now. Learn those and other players won’t despise you and might not call you a huntard. There’s a lot more to learn later on, but those will get you started on the “right path.â€
I SENT MY BOAR AGAINST A TROG IN LOCH MODAN. WE WERE DOING GREAT, BUT THEN TWO MORE TROGS GOT ON MY BOAR. I THINK A FOURTH ONE WAS THROWING SOMETHING AT HIM, TOO. HE DIED, THEN I DIED.
Four Trogs on your pet? This is a “run!†situation. Let your pet occupy them and die while you run to safety.
In the future, don’t send your pet into a target rich environment, or you will get adds like that – and you’ll be constantly running (and having to rez your pet) or dying. Instead, target a Trog that’s a bit away from the other three (use track humanoids to see where they all are). Shoot it once and run or back up to a “safe spot.†Sic your pet before you do too much damage, and finish the fight in the “safe spot.†Use concussive shot as the Trog is dying (or run up and wingclip) to stop him from running off and getting help.
Now there are three Trogs. Wait until one wanders off a bit from the others, and do the same to him. Now there are two, but they aren’t moving away from each other - it has to be a double this time. That's okay. You can easily kill two Trogs. Let your pet get the first blow (make sure he’s healed before you start). Both Trogs will attack him. Kill your pet’s first target, then switch the pet to the other one and kill it. After lvl 12 use Mend Pet (this can cause the second one to attack you, but that’s okay – concentrate on killing the first one, wingclip the second one while having your pet attack it, get to range, and shoot).
See what I’m getting at? Don’t just mindlessly send your pet into dangerous situations. Use your smarts to control the battle better, and things will go very smoothly for you. As you level up and get more skills, you’ll be able to do more. Traps are really nice, for example. But that’s advanced stuff, and this is just a newbie guide. Have fun; good luck!
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:02pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:47am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:48am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:52am by IponemaGirl
Okay, this is where playing a hunter gets tricky. Your Boar starts with Charge and Gore as his skills. You will teach him Growl – did you do that? If not, teach him Growl. Even with Growl he can still lose agro in follow up fights that occur right after a previous fight. Why? Your pet ran out of “focus.†Pets use “focus†like “mana†to power their abilities. A pet without focus can’t Growl and therefore can’t hold agro very well. You may want to turn off his offensive ability, Gore (right click it to toggle it on and off on the toolbar). Why? Gore uses up focus very quickly, as does Claw, which many other beasts get (boars obviously can never learn Claw – study Petopia to figure this all out). If you turn off Gore (or Claw for other pets), your boar will do slightly less damage, but he won’t use up all his focus in the first fight – and he can tank very well in an immediate, follow-up fight.
If you’re grinding a steady stream of monsters, it’s best at lower levels to have Gore and Claw off.
SO I CAN’T USE GORE - I HAVE TO FIGHT WITH A GIMPED PET?
No. Boars can also learn Bite. Unlike Growl, which you learned by finishing the training quest series (and which you upgrade every 10 levels at the trainer), Bite is a skill you must learn from another beast which already knows it. Isn’t that the coolest thing? This is why I originally bought WoW in the first place. I thought that was an awesome twist. Anyway, here’s how you do that. Find the “stables†(an NPC near the inn) and buy a slot for a few silver. Put your boar into that slot. Now go to Petopia and look up which rank of Bite is learnable by your lvl 10 Boar (we’ll pretend your Boar is level 10 for now). Oh look, he can learn Bite 2! Now look up the closest beast in the wild that knows Bite 2. Let’s pretend it’s a certain spider in Loch Modan. Head out to find that spider (use track beasts; see Allakhazam’s bestiary section for maps). Making sure no wandering bears are around to mess you up, target the spider and get to max range. Click the “train beast†button and get the spider trained. You’ll see Bite 2 on the toolbar. Teach it Growl and feed it a piece of jerky. Now kill stuff, with Bite 2 toggled on (the button should be sparkly) until you get a yellow text message telling you that you’ve learned the skill Bite 2. Now it’s in your training book or menu page. Abandon the spider (right click its icon, hit abandon command), get your boar out of the stables, and use your training button to teach it Bite 2.
Now you can safely hunt with Charge, Bite and Growl on. None of these use up focus terribly fast, and your boar will do okay damage.
I DID WHAT YOU SAID, BUT IT SAYS MY PET DOESN’T HAVE ENOUGH TRAINING POINTS.
Right, your boar actually starts with “negative TPs†(to pay for the charge and gore skills). You need to fight with your pet a while, keeping it fed, to get it to gain loyalty levels. It gets more TPs the more it gains loyalty – and as it gains levels. Soon you’ll enough TPs tp buy Bite.
SHOULD I GET STAMINA, ARMOR, AND THE RESISTS – THOSE THINGS THE TRAINER OFFERS?
No. Not resists. Those are for specific uses at high levels. Greater Stamina is good. Natural Armor is okay. Don’t go crazy burning up your TPs. If you don’t like how you’ve spent them, pay for a reset and spend them again (more wisely).
SO I’LL NEVER USE GORE?
You will use gore. You can always left click the Gore button to have your pet do Gore on your command. And once you get the Beast Mastery talent Bestial Disciple (or a Marksman talent, Go for the Throat - both of these cause the pet to regen focus very quickly), then you can leave Gore (or Claw) on autocast (and have your pet do a good deal more damage). But that’s many levels away. Oh, if you pvp, turn Growl off and turn Gore on (and maybe turn Bite off). In pvp you don’t want your pet wasting focus growling – you want to max dps in most cases. Gore (and Claw) cast themselves pretty fast; that’s why they do more damage (but also use up focus very fast).
YOU JUST WHOOSHED ME AGAIN!
Don’t worry about it. You need to play a little to “get†all parts of this guide. Go play, then come back and re-read this. To be honest, you can level just fine using the old standby combo Bite and Growl. You may want to avoid pets that can only Claw (and not Bite) at lower levels. Again, a boar using Bite, Growl and Charge will be perfectly fine. A cat or bear using Bite and Growl will be perfectly fine. Or a raptor, a tallstrider, a bat or a croc using Bite and Growl will be perfectly fine. If you don’t like your pet, you can always “release it back to the wild†(well fed of course! Only a slime would release a hungry pet!) and train some new pet. Most pet “fine tuning†issues are for mid-to-high levels. For now, you just want a pet that is easy to feed and that holds agro (and for me, that gets to target fast – chaaaarge!) – in other words, a boar, the best starting pet.
EXCEPT THERE IS NO BEST PET.
Exactly. Now you’re getting it. Don’t fret over your pet. Repeat this 500 times: “way wayp wiy saah tal.â€
HUH?
That means “why are you worried about your pet when it’s your skills as a hunter that are lacking.â€
HEY, I’M A GOOD HUNTER! I SIC MY PET. I HAVE A KILLER 2H AX, AND I MELEE STUFF RIGHT NEXT TO MY BESTEST BUDDY!
Um, that’s the path to becoming a “huntard†– don’t do that. Remember what we discussed earlier, how the first 10 levels force you to melee, but you need to forget about that? Hunters do far, far, FAR more damage shooting than meleeing.
It’s time we learn the basic “THOU SHALT NOT BE A HUNTARD†creed (memorize this):
1. Thou shalt not run out of ammo. Thou shalt not begin an instance, group quest or battleground low on or without ammo.
2. Thou shalt not melee when getting to range and shooting is possible.
3. Thou shalt not break crowd control of other teammates (cc is like when a mage “sheeps†a target – if you attack it, it will “unsheep†and attack!).
4. Thou shalt remember to wingclip or concussive shot targets that run when low on health (and can get friends).
5. Thou shalt not leave ones pet on aggressive mode when instancing or group questing with others.
6. Thou shalt not melee when getting to range and shooting is possible.
7. Thou shalt not run out of ammo. Thou shalt not begin an instance, group quest or battleground low on or without ammo.
Okay, that’s good enough for now. Learn those and other players won’t despise you and might not call you a huntard. There’s a lot more to learn later on, but those will get you started on the “right path.â€
I SENT MY BOAR AGAINST A TROG IN LOCH MODAN. WE WERE DOING GREAT, BUT THEN TWO MORE TROGS GOT ON MY BOAR. I THINK A FOURTH ONE WAS THROWING SOMETHING AT HIM, TOO. HE DIED, THEN I DIED.
Four Trogs on your pet? This is a “run!†situation. Let your pet occupy them and die while you run to safety.
In the future, don’t send your pet into a target rich environment, or you will get adds like that – and you’ll be constantly running (and having to rez your pet) or dying. Instead, target a Trog that’s a bit away from the other three (use track humanoids to see where they all are). Shoot it once and run or back up to a “safe spot.†Sic your pet before you do too much damage, and finish the fight in the “safe spot.†Use concussive shot as the Trog is dying (or run up and wingclip) to stop him from running off and getting help.
Now there are three Trogs. Wait until one wanders off a bit from the others, and do the same to him. Now there are two, but they aren’t moving away from each other - it has to be a double this time. That's okay. You can easily kill two Trogs. Let your pet get the first blow (make sure he’s healed before you start). Both Trogs will attack him. Kill your pet’s first target, then switch the pet to the other one and kill it. After lvl 12 use Mend Pet (this can cause the second one to attack you, but that’s okay – concentrate on killing the first one, wingclip the second one while having your pet attack it, get to range, and shoot).
See what I’m getting at? Don’t just mindlessly send your pet into dangerous situations. Use your smarts to control the battle better, and things will go very smoothly for you. As you level up and get more skills, you’ll be able to do more. Traps are really nice, for example. But that’s advanced stuff, and this is just a newbie guide. Have fun; good luck!
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:02pm by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:47am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:48am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:52am by IponemaGirl
WAIT WAIT WAIT! THERE’S GOT TO BE MORE. HOW DO I SPEND MY TALENT POINTS?
Oh gosh. Right. Talent points. Go beast mastery.
REALLY?
Yeah. Look, you can go marksman (don’t go survival until might later on). Marksman or MM is fine. But BM is much better for starting hunters. Make you pet really tough and hard hitting. That way it will hold agro better and last longer, allowing you to remain at range doing what you do best, shooting (and not meleeing!).
Put 5/5 in Endurance Training.
Put 3/3 in Thick Hide.
Most spend the next points 2/2 in Focused Fire. Some do 2/2 in Improved Revive Pet, but this is usually for pvp. Do Focused Fire.
Then 5/5 in Unleashed Fury. This is a newbie guide, so that will get you started. Don’t spend a point here, a point over there, and another point over there. Concentrate your talent points in one area.
WHY?
Just trust me. Scattered talents means weak and ineffectual powers. Focusing them means much more. Again, just trust me on this one. Only huntards scatter their points like pollinating bees.
I WANT TO BE A NIGHT ELF OR DRAEINIE AND GET A BOAR LIKE YOU SAID, BUT YOU ALSO SAID IT’S HARD FOR THESE RACES TO GET TO PLACES WHERE YOU CAN TRAIN A BOAR.
It’s not that hard. You can sit in Darnassus or Exodar begging a teleport for three hours and not get one. Or you can be tough and just go there yourself. Draenies need to find the dock near Exodar and take the boat to the Night Elf port of Auberdine. Night Elves get to Darnassus and find the purplish teleportal thingie behind the bank to Rut’Theran, then take the boat or hippogriff to Auberdine. Get the flight link in Auberdine if you don’t have it (to the right as you enter the inn).
Now take the “south docking boat†to the human town of Menethil in a zone called The Wetlands. Get the flight link near the docks. Take the main road east. Oh, you might die a lot, so you may want to put your armor and weapons in the bank before you leave – to save money not having to repair them. (or bag them - if you are killed, items in bags do not take damage provided you return to your body and rez normally ---- if you spirit rez, all items you wear and have in bags take a big hit - so if you know you have to spirit rez, consider leaving items in the bank ---- that said, repair bills at low levels aren't that big a deal; this is another reason you learned to mine, skin and/or pick herbs, so you don't have to sweat the small stuff financially).
Go east, east, east (on the main east-west road). Have track beasts on and avoid the crocs and raptors. If you die, just run past your body as far as you can, rez and keep going. Eventually this east-going road will curve south, and you enter a series of tunnels going up into the mountains (called Dun Algaz). Orcs will kill you. Rez and keep going. Eventually you reach Loch Modan. There are boars here! Tame one. If they are too high level for you, get the flight link to the south in the little town, then follow the road to Dun Morrow. You will see a tamable boar pretty soon. Take the west road all the way to the center of the zone and go north to Ironforge. Get the flight link in the center area of the city. Take the tram in Tinkertown (hit m for map) and go to Stormwind. Right click a guard to find the flight master.
You can go south into Elwynn Forest, then west to Westfall, where there are yellowish boars you can tame (Elwynn has low level boars). Check Petopia for levels and whatnot.
OKAY, I SAW SOMEONE WITH A DRAGONHAWK PET. I WANT ONE.
There is only one low level dragonhawk you can tame. It has “weak caster stats†– read up at Petopia on this (basically they have lower hp and ac their whole lives). It looks cool, and you need to tame a lvl 7 or so dragonhawk if you want one your whole career. Otherwise you must wait until lvl 62 or so to get one (and these do not have weak caster stats).
Beasts with mana bars tend to have weak caster stats and make poor pets. They aren’t so bad that they’re unusable. If you get Beast Mastery talents to buff up a dragonhawk, it will work okay.
Horde hunters just take the zeppelin to the UC, then take the teleporter in the front of the UC (to the right as you enter, before you cross the moat) to Silvermoon. Go out into the BE newbie zone and find the highest level one you can find (seven, I think).
Allies wanting a dragonhawk must suffer hell. Get to Wetlands and take the main road north into Arathi Highlands. Get a flight link at the refugee base in the middle, then follow the main road west. Zone into Hillsbrad and go southish to get a flight link at Southshore. Then follow the river in the east part of the zone north until you zone into the Western Plaguelands (WPL). You can go west to get the flight link if you want. This is a high level zone, but it’s safe here in the south, for the most part. Go east until you zone into Eastern Plaguelands (EPL). Get up to the road. You will die as many as 20 times here. Just ghost walk past your body, rez, and run as far as you can. You may have to “death hop†out of bad areas. Keep going until the road curves north. Go north until you can go up to a swirly “zone†– take that into Ghostlands. Take the road north, circling around the town in the middle (it has Horde guards) – and go north into the green, verdant Blood Elf zone. Look for the highest lvl Dragonhawk you can find and train it.
Or head up and get a little bright red lynx. There are tan lynxes of higher level, but the red one is killer. You’ll have to tolerate it being low (highest is level 5 or so?). But this is the only place to get a red lynx, and the only place to get any lynx for many levels.
WHAT OTHER COOL PETS ARE THERE?
These pets are mostly good for vanity or show. Remember, there is no best pet. But if you want a pet that stands out and is somewhat rare, consider one of the below.
There is a pink tallstrider, a rare “silver elite,†named Mazerache, in Mulgore.
There is a blue-green, pretty and rare tallstrider in Night Elf lands.
Takk the Leaper is a cool, black raptor in The Barrens. Get a map from the bestiary. He’s kind of rare; you might have to wait for him to spawn.
There is a rare, white bat in the Undead area, not too far from Brill (where*, look up).
There is a horde quest-summonable white lion (echiyake, sp?) in The Barrens (Allies must get a Horde friend to summon it for them). And there is a black male lion, very rare, near Ratchet.* (look up his name). This lion requires “camping,†i.e. you have to wait there for many, many hours until he shows up.
You can summon a cool “see through†leaopard (called a ghost saber) just north of Auberdine in an area of Naga ruins (lvl 19 or so). You click on cat statues on the ground, and every once in a while one causes a ghost saber to attack you. He will die for no good reason about five minutes after you tame him. Just rez him, and he’ll be okay. He remains transparent forever.
If you want a bug-like ravager, you must go to Draenie lands, where you have a choice of several colors (see Petopia). Ravagers arguably are the highest dps pets, given that they are high dps to start, can use gore and can use bite. But between lvl 15 and the low 60s, there are no Ravagers to tame. If you want one for your whole career, I’d train one early. Dwarf hunters should just backtrack the directions I gave – get to Auberdine, take the boat to Draenei lands and find one.
Horde players wanting a ravager must go to the Barrens, then go north into Ashenvale. Find the main road west. Circle the alli town of Astraanar, and get a flight link at Zoram Strand if you want (also hit the east flight point for Horde when you first enter – find a map*). At last the road turns north. Enter the next zone and go north until you see the Night Elf town of Auberdine. Swim out to the far end of the dock and drown yourself. Ghost run out there and wait for the boat to Draenie lands to arrive. Get on board and rez. Take the boat to Draenie lands and find a ravager.
A Horde player can also use this method to get a low level owl pet (owls are not available until after level 50). Low level owls are only in the Night Elf newbie zone. Get to Auberdine as outlined above, but take the northish docking boat to Rut’Theran. Jump off before the dock and swim towards the purple glow teleportal. You will die before you make it. You appear at a graveyard way back in the other zone. Just take the boat again and rez as close to the glow as you can – zone into Darnassus before the guards get you. In Darnassus you will be killed. Spirit rez at the graveyard outside town. You may want to wait until you’re not pvp-positive (five minutes) – so Ally players can’t gank you. You became pvp+ by entering an ally main city. Okay, find an owl and train it.
White bears exist at low levels only in Dun Morogh. They are lvl 11 and hard to train. I’d go after Mangeclaw, because he’s always up (the other one is rare). Mangeclaw’s in the Northeast. He’ll stun you and break your first train attempt. You’ll want a healing potion to drink, and then you just try to tame again. Hopefully the second time you’ll get him tamed before he stuns you again. If you get hurt, run away from him, let him reset, and try again. The other white bear stuns, too, so just do Mangeclaw.
For a horde hunter to get a low level white bear is quite hard. Go to Tarren Mill (go from Sepulchre in Silverpine south, go east across Hillsbrad to TM, get flight link). Go east on road to Arathi (go to northeast part of zone to Hammerfall if you want flight link here). Take main central road south to Wetlands. Go down until road turns east. Follow it east until it curves south. Go through Dun Algaz and be killed by mean orcs who don’t like you, even though you are Horde. Enter Loch Modan. Go west through another tunnel and enter Dun Morogh. Look up where to find Mangeclaw on the bestiary (get a map). You’ll want your armor to be in your bags, by the way, so it’s not all “red†and useless when it’s time to train. You might want to be level 12, and you’ll want several healing potions. Find Mangeclaw and train him.
Wind Serpents and Vipers are available in the Barrens. The best ones are in an instance called The Wailing Caverns – and are elite (low to mid teens). Be sure you check Petopia and get one that does not have wimpy caster stats.
Use aspect of monkey whenever training; it will help.
I HEARD THAT SOME PETS RUN FASTER THAN OTHERS, WHILE SOME COME WITH FASTER ATTACK SPEEDS.
No, that’s old, old, old information. That was zilched in a patch ages ago. All pets are “equalized†now. Taming an elite pet doesn’t make it stronger, either.
WHAT’S BETTER, A GUN OR A BOW?
Most hunters use bows. Guns are for the most part just fine, however. Dwarves get a +5% bonus for guns. Trolls get a +5% bonus for bows. You can make your own shot with engineering for guns, not for bows. Later on, some crossbows are quite good. Don’t fret over this for now.
WHERE DO I BUY AMMO?
Any general merchant. Bowyers sell arrows, and gunsmiths sell bullets.
WHERE DO I TRAIN TO USE A GUN OR BOW?
Right click any weapon master in a major city, and they’ll tell you. Right click a city guard to find a weapon master.
Look, you know just about all you need to know to be a good hunter – save the important part: learning from experience. Go hunt! Go play! When you hit your high teens, try a Warsong Gulch Battleground! Twinks might stomp you, but it’s great experience (and you can learn how to kite twink rogues, actually, and kill them in wsg even if you aren’t twinked or super-geared).
WHAT ABOUT FOOD? I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING WHERE TO BUY IT?
Some hunters learn the fishing skill and fish a lot to get free food (cats, bears, boars, carrion birds, turtles and several others eat fish; see Petopia).
There are meat and fruit venders in many major cities. Ironforge has a roaming meat vendor in the military ward, just outsie where the hunter trainers are; a fruit vender walks around in the magic (outside the wizard and Priest trainers area) section.
Once you find a vender, it's a good idea to buy extra stacks of food and mail them to an "alt" (another character you make on the same server). This alt mails them back to your hunter, and the food stacks are in your mailbox for a month. Any time you need more food, just find a mailbox. You can use the bank for this too, but there are way more mailboxes in the world than there are banks, which are mostly in major cities and a few goblin towns.
I hope this guide provided the basic information you need to get started on a fun and exciting career as a hunter in WoW. There’s a lot more to learn, but that’s not for a newbie guide to cover.
Remember, don’t obsess on getting “the best pet.†There really isn’t one.
Don’t be a huntard! Shooting > meleeing. Only melee if you’re forced to (like you have a snaring effect on you, and you just can’t get away from your target). Buy ammo. Always top off your quiver when you see a merchant who sells ammo.
Have fun. Remember, what you do reflects on the rest of us. We hunters have a “bad reputation†(caused by the myriad of huntards out there) to overcome. So play smart! Have fun and good luck!
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Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:57am by IponemaGirl
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Oh gosh. Right. Talent points. Go beast mastery.
REALLY?
Yeah. Look, you can go marksman (don’t go survival until might later on). Marksman or MM is fine. But BM is much better for starting hunters. Make you pet really tough and hard hitting. That way it will hold agro better and last longer, allowing you to remain at range doing what you do best, shooting (and not meleeing!).
Put 5/5 in Endurance Training.
Put 3/3 in Thick Hide.
Most spend the next points 2/2 in Focused Fire. Some do 2/2 in Improved Revive Pet, but this is usually for pvp. Do Focused Fire.
Then 5/5 in Unleashed Fury. This is a newbie guide, so that will get you started. Don’t spend a point here, a point over there, and another point over there. Concentrate your talent points in one area.
WHY?
Just trust me. Scattered talents means weak and ineffectual powers. Focusing them means much more. Again, just trust me on this one. Only huntards scatter their points like pollinating bees.
I WANT TO BE A NIGHT ELF OR DRAEINIE AND GET A BOAR LIKE YOU SAID, BUT YOU ALSO SAID IT’S HARD FOR THESE RACES TO GET TO PLACES WHERE YOU CAN TRAIN A BOAR.
It’s not that hard. You can sit in Darnassus or Exodar begging a teleport for three hours and not get one. Or you can be tough and just go there yourself. Draenies need to find the dock near Exodar and take the boat to the Night Elf port of Auberdine. Night Elves get to Darnassus and find the purplish teleportal thingie behind the bank to Rut’Theran, then take the boat or hippogriff to Auberdine. Get the flight link in Auberdine if you don’t have it (to the right as you enter the inn).
Now take the “south docking boat†to the human town of Menethil in a zone called The Wetlands. Get the flight link near the docks. Take the main road east. Oh, you might die a lot, so you may want to put your armor and weapons in the bank before you leave – to save money not having to repair them. (or bag them - if you are killed, items in bags do not take damage provided you return to your body and rez normally ---- if you spirit rez, all items you wear and have in bags take a big hit - so if you know you have to spirit rez, consider leaving items in the bank ---- that said, repair bills at low levels aren't that big a deal; this is another reason you learned to mine, skin and/or pick herbs, so you don't have to sweat the small stuff financially).
Go east, east, east (on the main east-west road). Have track beasts on and avoid the crocs and raptors. If you die, just run past your body as far as you can, rez and keep going. Eventually this east-going road will curve south, and you enter a series of tunnels going up into the mountains (called Dun Algaz). Orcs will kill you. Rez and keep going. Eventually you reach Loch Modan. There are boars here! Tame one. If they are too high level for you, get the flight link to the south in the little town, then follow the road to Dun Morrow. You will see a tamable boar pretty soon. Take the west road all the way to the center of the zone and go north to Ironforge. Get the flight link in the center area of the city. Take the tram in Tinkertown (hit m for map) and go to Stormwind. Right click a guard to find the flight master.
You can go south into Elwynn Forest, then west to Westfall, where there are yellowish boars you can tame (Elwynn has low level boars). Check Petopia for levels and whatnot.
OKAY, I SAW SOMEONE WITH A DRAGONHAWK PET. I WANT ONE.
There is only one low level dragonhawk you can tame. It has “weak caster stats†– read up at Petopia on this (basically they have lower hp and ac their whole lives). It looks cool, and you need to tame a lvl 7 or so dragonhawk if you want one your whole career. Otherwise you must wait until lvl 62 or so to get one (and these do not have weak caster stats).
Beasts with mana bars tend to have weak caster stats and make poor pets. They aren’t so bad that they’re unusable. If you get Beast Mastery talents to buff up a dragonhawk, it will work okay.
Horde hunters just take the zeppelin to the UC, then take the teleporter in the front of the UC (to the right as you enter, before you cross the moat) to Silvermoon. Go out into the BE newbie zone and find the highest level one you can find (seven, I think).
Allies wanting a dragonhawk must suffer hell. Get to Wetlands and take the main road north into Arathi Highlands. Get a flight link at the refugee base in the middle, then follow the main road west. Zone into Hillsbrad and go southish to get a flight link at Southshore. Then follow the river in the east part of the zone north until you zone into the Western Plaguelands (WPL). You can go west to get the flight link if you want. This is a high level zone, but it’s safe here in the south, for the most part. Go east until you zone into Eastern Plaguelands (EPL). Get up to the road. You will die as many as 20 times here. Just ghost walk past your body, rez, and run as far as you can. You may have to “death hop†out of bad areas. Keep going until the road curves north. Go north until you can go up to a swirly “zone†– take that into Ghostlands. Take the road north, circling around the town in the middle (it has Horde guards) – and go north into the green, verdant Blood Elf zone. Look for the highest lvl Dragonhawk you can find and train it.
Or head up and get a little bright red lynx. There are tan lynxes of higher level, but the red one is killer. You’ll have to tolerate it being low (highest is level 5 or so?). But this is the only place to get a red lynx, and the only place to get any lynx for many levels.
WHAT OTHER COOL PETS ARE THERE?
These pets are mostly good for vanity or show. Remember, there is no best pet. But if you want a pet that stands out and is somewhat rare, consider one of the below.
There is a pink tallstrider, a rare “silver elite,†named Mazerache, in Mulgore.
There is a blue-green, pretty and rare tallstrider in Night Elf lands.
Takk the Leaper is a cool, black raptor in The Barrens. Get a map from the bestiary. He’s kind of rare; you might have to wait for him to spawn.
There is a rare, white bat in the Undead area, not too far from Brill (where*, look up).
There is a horde quest-summonable white lion (echiyake, sp?) in The Barrens (Allies must get a Horde friend to summon it for them). And there is a black male lion, very rare, near Ratchet.* (look up his name). This lion requires “camping,†i.e. you have to wait there for many, many hours until he shows up.
You can summon a cool “see through†leaopard (called a ghost saber) just north of Auberdine in an area of Naga ruins (lvl 19 or so). You click on cat statues on the ground, and every once in a while one causes a ghost saber to attack you. He will die for no good reason about five minutes after you tame him. Just rez him, and he’ll be okay. He remains transparent forever.
If you want a bug-like ravager, you must go to Draenie lands, where you have a choice of several colors (see Petopia). Ravagers arguably are the highest dps pets, given that they are high dps to start, can use gore and can use bite. But between lvl 15 and the low 60s, there are no Ravagers to tame. If you want one for your whole career, I’d train one early. Dwarf hunters should just backtrack the directions I gave – get to Auberdine, take the boat to Draenei lands and find one.
Horde players wanting a ravager must go to the Barrens, then go north into Ashenvale. Find the main road west. Circle the alli town of Astraanar, and get a flight link at Zoram Strand if you want (also hit the east flight point for Horde when you first enter – find a map*). At last the road turns north. Enter the next zone and go north until you see the Night Elf town of Auberdine. Swim out to the far end of the dock and drown yourself. Ghost run out there and wait for the boat to Draenie lands to arrive. Get on board and rez. Take the boat to Draenie lands and find a ravager.
A Horde player can also use this method to get a low level owl pet (owls are not available until after level 50). Low level owls are only in the Night Elf newbie zone. Get to Auberdine as outlined above, but take the northish docking boat to Rut’Theran. Jump off before the dock and swim towards the purple glow teleportal. You will die before you make it. You appear at a graveyard way back in the other zone. Just take the boat again and rez as close to the glow as you can – zone into Darnassus before the guards get you. In Darnassus you will be killed. Spirit rez at the graveyard outside town. You may want to wait until you’re not pvp-positive (five minutes) – so Ally players can’t gank you. You became pvp+ by entering an ally main city. Okay, find an owl and train it.
White bears exist at low levels only in Dun Morogh. They are lvl 11 and hard to train. I’d go after Mangeclaw, because he’s always up (the other one is rare). Mangeclaw’s in the Northeast. He’ll stun you and break your first train attempt. You’ll want a healing potion to drink, and then you just try to tame again. Hopefully the second time you’ll get him tamed before he stuns you again. If you get hurt, run away from him, let him reset, and try again. The other white bear stuns, too, so just do Mangeclaw.
For a horde hunter to get a low level white bear is quite hard. Go to Tarren Mill (go from Sepulchre in Silverpine south, go east across Hillsbrad to TM, get flight link). Go east on road to Arathi (go to northeast part of zone to Hammerfall if you want flight link here). Take main central road south to Wetlands. Go down until road turns east. Follow it east until it curves south. Go through Dun Algaz and be killed by mean orcs who don’t like you, even though you are Horde. Enter Loch Modan. Go west through another tunnel and enter Dun Morogh. Look up where to find Mangeclaw on the bestiary (get a map). You’ll want your armor to be in your bags, by the way, so it’s not all “red†and useless when it’s time to train. You might want to be level 12, and you’ll want several healing potions. Find Mangeclaw and train him.
Wind Serpents and Vipers are available in the Barrens. The best ones are in an instance called The Wailing Caverns – and are elite (low to mid teens). Be sure you check Petopia and get one that does not have wimpy caster stats.
Use aspect of monkey whenever training; it will help.
I HEARD THAT SOME PETS RUN FASTER THAN OTHERS, WHILE SOME COME WITH FASTER ATTACK SPEEDS.
No, that’s old, old, old information. That was zilched in a patch ages ago. All pets are “equalized†now. Taming an elite pet doesn’t make it stronger, either.
WHAT’S BETTER, A GUN OR A BOW?
Most hunters use bows. Guns are for the most part just fine, however. Dwarves get a +5% bonus for guns. Trolls get a +5% bonus for bows. You can make your own shot with engineering for guns, not for bows. Later on, some crossbows are quite good. Don’t fret over this for now.
WHERE DO I BUY AMMO?
Any general merchant. Bowyers sell arrows, and gunsmiths sell bullets.
WHERE DO I TRAIN TO USE A GUN OR BOW?
Right click any weapon master in a major city, and they’ll tell you. Right click a city guard to find a weapon master.
Look, you know just about all you need to know to be a good hunter – save the important part: learning from experience. Go hunt! Go play! When you hit your high teens, try a Warsong Gulch Battleground! Twinks might stomp you, but it’s great experience (and you can learn how to kite twink rogues, actually, and kill them in wsg even if you aren’t twinked or super-geared).
WHAT ABOUT FOOD? I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING WHERE TO BUY IT?
Some hunters learn the fishing skill and fish a lot to get free food (cats, bears, boars, carrion birds, turtles and several others eat fish; see Petopia).
There are meat and fruit venders in many major cities. Ironforge has a roaming meat vendor in the military ward, just outsie where the hunter trainers are; a fruit vender walks around in the magic (outside the wizard and Priest trainers area) section.
Once you find a vender, it's a good idea to buy extra stacks of food and mail them to an "alt" (another character you make on the same server). This alt mails them back to your hunter, and the food stacks are in your mailbox for a month. Any time you need more food, just find a mailbox. You can use the bank for this too, but there are way more mailboxes in the world than there are banks, which are mostly in major cities and a few goblin towns.
I hope this guide provided the basic information you need to get started on a fun and exciting career as a hunter in WoW. There’s a lot more to learn, but that’s not for a newbie guide to cover.
Remember, don’t obsess on getting “the best pet.†There really isn’t one.
Don’t be a huntard! Shooting > meleeing. Only melee if you’re forced to (like you have a snaring effect on you, and you just can’t get away from your target). Buy ammo. Always top off your quiver when you see a merchant who sells ammo.
Have fun. Remember, what you do reflects on the rest of us. We hunters have a “bad reputation†(caused by the myriad of huntards out there) to overcome. So play smart! Have fun and good luck!
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 9:04pm by IponemaGirl
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Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:57am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 12:57am by IponemaGirl
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 4:03am by IponemaGirl
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Hi everyone, there have been complaints that newbies get lost reading our "every question answered here" stickie and that a guide "for real newbs" is needed (so we can just respond with the link and get them on their way easily).
A worthwhile project, imho, and a good start! The sheer amount of number-crunching in the sticky is deterrent enough for most newbies... And it makes for an amusing read, even though I don't agree with all your calls (the nesesscity of getting a green weapon at lvl6, for example). Good luck!
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You certainly can level with a starting, white or gray weapon. But I found getting a green weapon made doing the last 4 levels to 10 much faster (and way less frustrating).
Yes, it takes time to skin or mine or pick herbs - adn go to city to sell - but these are things newbs need to learn to do anyway. Having some gold early on is usually good. You can buy potions, teleports, etc.
I'm not going to be "right" on everything, of course. A lot of this is subjective. So let me know if opinions vastly differ. I think I need to discuss if it's really worth it, for example, for a NE or Draenie to travel to get a boar. They need to get a flight link over there, anyway. But is it really worth it just to get a boar (maybe not)?
I also need to prep people a bit more for their mid-phase - and get them thinking about good midlevel pets, where the carion bird starts to easily compete w/ the boar as "best pet" (there is no best pet). Anyway, there's a lot more I could put in, and ... I may have already put in too much.
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 10:08pm by IponemaGirl
Hopefully now, no stupid questions. Though i will miss the old flame-fest. *tear-drop*.
Oh, and i found the first 10 levels to be excellent in training "jump-shots" or my personal favorite: "strafe shot" - safer and easier to execute. The lack of a pet and a lousy weapon will force you to learn this leet skill that will make you the coolest kid in class.
How to?
Thats up to IponemaGirl to tell you.
:D
How to?
Thats up to IponemaGirl to tell you.
:D
Night Elves have very easy access to Boars if they have the patience to spend a little time leveling them. The N.Elf starting area (where your toon first appears in Azeroth after you roll it) is loaded with Boars that go up to level 3 or 4. If you get one at level 10, it won't take long at all to get your new piggy caught up to you. It's not ideal, but the trek through Wetlands at level 10 can be miserable.
Ooo I forgot completely about those cute little boars. Right ... those might be a better option compared to the long trip to Dun Morogh or Westfall. Of course, any NE (or Draenie) hunter is eventually going to have to make the trip to IF/SW. So that's an argument to go ahead and get a bigger one. Also, you'll need to get one of those to get higher level boar skills (do the teeny little boars in Teldrassil come with charge and gore? Heh, I guess I'll have to go train one and see!).
Jump shooting - gah - I'm terrible at it! I'm a good strafe-kiter, though. But this is a newbie guide. As important as that is... well, maybe we can work it in here at some point. I'm just too tired now.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff I could add to the first section - little tips on making it to level 10 faster and funner. For all my trips as a hunter to lvl 10, getting better weapons has been my #1 priority. But learning to start a fight at max range to get at least one more shot into the charging monster - that's a good thing to do. Stinging it with the DoT shot as it comes in is good, too.
Gosh, I'm realizing there's so much more I can and probably shoot add. Like Hunter's Mark - how you can make a macro that combines the casting of it and starting to autoshoot all at once. It goes on and on... but what I put in addresses a great deal of the typical newbie questions I've seen. And at the end I cover how to get cool pets, cuz you really have to get certain pets early to enjoy them. Taming a ghost saber when you're lvl 59 - it's no fun at all to level up a kitty that far. And if you want a pink ostrich pet, you've got to go get mazzerach - etc. Again, training a lvl 9 or so pet up, if you're lvl 40 even - is a horror story. It can be done, but you don't want to.
Jump shooting - gah - I'm terrible at it! I'm a good strafe-kiter, though. But this is a newbie guide. As important as that is... well, maybe we can work it in here at some point. I'm just too tired now.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff I could add to the first section - little tips on making it to level 10 faster and funner. For all my trips as a hunter to lvl 10, getting better weapons has been my #1 priority. But learning to start a fight at max range to get at least one more shot into the charging monster - that's a good thing to do. Stinging it with the DoT shot as it comes in is good, too.
Gosh, I'm realizing there's so much more I can and probably shoot add. Like Hunter's Mark - how you can make a macro that combines the casting of it and starting to autoshoot all at once. It goes on and on... but what I put in addresses a great deal of the typical newbie questions I've seen. And at the end I cover how to get cool pets, cuz you really have to get certain pets early to enjoy them. Taming a ghost saber when you're lvl 59 - it's no fun at all to level up a kitty that far. And if you want a pink ostrich pet, you've got to go get mazzerach - etc. Again, training a lvl 9 or so pet up, if you're lvl 40 even - is a horror story. It can be done, but you don't want to.
Good start there, quite impressed, but in honesty i disagree with the Get a "magic weapon" at level 6, by the time you mine 20 copper, then find a forge to smelt, then smelt 20 bars, run all the way to Orgrimmer, sell them on the AH (presuming they will sell) to then find a level 6 item the next day as obviously in very rare occasions things sell straight away........ you see my drift?
I would just recommend leveling with white weapons or what you pick up on the way to level 10. Gettin to level 10 isnt that long, a matter of hours for some, no more than 2 or 3 nights for average/newbie members. (students, children, workers etc etc... will be in different circumstances)
But the other information is perfect and correct. well done.
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 6:30am by Reccyuk
I would just recommend leveling with white weapons or what you pick up on the way to level 10. Gettin to level 10 isnt that long, a matter of hours for some, no more than 2 or 3 nights for average/newbie members. (students, children, workers etc etc... will be in different circumstances)
But the other information is perfect and correct. well done.
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 6:30am by Reccyuk
Nice guide. I particularly like the conversations with your imaginary inquisitor. It's like the embodiment of every demanding, panic-stricken wingnut that comes in here demanding an answer.
I had suggested (or meant to) something like this a while back. The stickies have awesome information, but in a society that values instant gratification asking people to read it seems to fall on deaf ears. Hopefully this will help. Very nicely done.
As a side note, I'm suprised Calabar hasn't commented on the pink tallstrider yet ... (I'm kidding)
I had suggested (or meant to) something like this a while back. The stickies have awesome information, but in a society that values instant gratification asking people to read it seems to fall on deaf ears. Hopefully this will help. Very nicely done.
As a side note, I'm suprised Calabar hasn't commented on the pink tallstrider yet ... (I'm kidding)
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Great job on this hunter nubie guide...
Great thread, lots of good info. This is definitely a much more approachable newbie guide than the sticky guide. Frankly, I'm not really interested in trying to compute *exactly* how much damage I might be able to do at lvl70, especialy when it's taken me 6 months to get to lvl46 (I've got a few alts too).
Anyway, this is much more like what I was hoping to find when I first started out. Three cheers for IponemaGirl!
Anyway, this is much more like what I was hoping to find when I first started out. Three cheers for IponemaGirl!
Mulgore has orange boars in it's newbie starting area too. They'd take some work in leveling them up but they are a pretty color and a bit less common to see as pets compared to the standard gray/black boars or the even more commonly seen armored boars that come out of RFK.
The guide is nice and comprehensive and a fun read. Some people won't want to read all of that though and there ought to be a more concise version for people who want the dry basics so they can hurry up and go play.
The guide is nice and comprehensive and a fun read. Some people won't want to read all of that though and there ought to be a more concise version for people who want the dry basics so they can hurry up and go play.
Thanks all! I might use the last reserved spot for a 'hurry up' guide.
Maybe I should modify the recommendation to get a green weapon at lvl 6. I've sent my hunter alts one in the mail and can't imagine trying to grind those last levels w/ low dps (er actually I did it once, and I hated it - the green weapon made a HUGE difference - and most newbies aren't going to "fly" to level 10 anyway - and they do need to get money via some sort of skill).
Also, I don't expect everyone to read it all at once - it's not designed that way (maybe I should make this more clear).
I could also add stuff about getting weapons for stats - what stats to look for on armor - but at some point we just have to draw the line.
EDIT - okay, the little Thistleboars in Teldrassil newbie area are lvl TWO. They come with Charge 1 built and, and I must say - this is the first time a pet has GROWN upon training (instead of shrinking) - hah! I fought some lvl 6 webwood lurkers w/ the lvl 2 pig pet and was surprised how well it did - it could kill them all by iteself. BUT it scaled up to my higher lvl hunter, I'm sure.
I dunno which is the better option - travel to IF/Westfall for a pig, or deal with leveling up a lvl 2 swine. Given that a kitty or owl or bear does just fine, too, it might not be worth it to newbiew NEs and Draenie. But, as I've said, they have to make the trip to IF/SW at some point - might as well get a nice pig out of it. What do you all think?
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 1:20pm by IponemaGirl
Maybe I should modify the recommendation to get a green weapon at lvl 6. I've sent my hunter alts one in the mail and can't imagine trying to grind those last levels w/ low dps (er actually I did it once, and I hated it - the green weapon made a HUGE difference - and most newbies aren't going to "fly" to level 10 anyway - and they do need to get money via some sort of skill).
Also, I don't expect everyone to read it all at once - it's not designed that way (maybe I should make this more clear).
I could also add stuff about getting weapons for stats - what stats to look for on armor - but at some point we just have to draw the line.
EDIT - okay, the little Thistleboars in Teldrassil newbie area are lvl TWO. They come with Charge 1 built and, and I must say - this is the first time a pet has GROWN upon training (instead of shrinking) - hah! I fought some lvl 6 webwood lurkers w/ the lvl 2 pig pet and was surprised how well it did - it could kill them all by iteself. BUT it scaled up to my higher lvl hunter, I'm sure.
I dunno which is the better option - travel to IF/Westfall for a pig, or deal with leveling up a lvl 2 swine. Given that a kitty or owl or bear does just fine, too, it might not be worth it to newbiew NEs and Draenie. But, as I've said, they have to make the trip to IF/SW at some point - might as well get a nice pig out of it. What do you all think?
Edited, Oct 31st 2007 1:20pm by IponemaGirl
Good God, Iponema, you have created another "point to" guid that I will be flaming people to go read without actually doing it myself!
Bravo!
Bravo!
LMAO, great newbie guide. I remember those journeys through Wetlands and beyond. I like that you mention petopia a lot. I just grabbed the first thing I came upon which was the nightsabre (i think) around Dolanar. Now I have different pets, thanks to Petopia.
You could always do intermediate and advanced level guides as well. Breaks it up into "easier to digest" pieces.
Keep up the good work.
You could always do intermediate and advanced level guides as well. Breaks it up into "easier to digest" pieces.
Keep up the good work.
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Ok, thats a great guide and all, pretty lengthy. I just hit 10th lvl with no indication froma trainer on any pet or skills? The trainer in Anvilar is blank when I try and talk to him so I'm a little confused?
Are you sure its the hunter trainer?
The hunter trainer will give you a quest to tame 3 pets. Look out for that quest.
The hunter trainer will give you a quest to tame 3 pets. Look out for that quest.
I didn't read the whole thing, but I liked what I did read. It should be a big help to those just starting out a hunter and really have no idea what to do. It was also pretty entertaining to read :D
That would be the Kharanos trainer, not the Anvilmar trainer - didn't I say "middle town" - I tried making clear there is a noob village, middle down, then main city progression.
I'll check it tomorrow - too tired now.
I'm working on a "short attention span" version of the above. Am thinking it's much better. Will post it as soon as I am happy w/ it.
THanks.
I'll check it tomorrow - too tired now.
I'm working on a "short attention span" version of the above. Am thinking it's much better. Will post it as soon as I am happy w/ it.
THanks.
Awsome! I always enjoy your posts, but this time you've outdone yourself!
I agree with the lvl 6 green weapon thing, makes life a lot easier.
Oh, and about this:
I don't think it's a bad idea to add two lines about what stats to look for, it doesn't have to be much more than that, and would save a lot of people from the huntardness of running around with stuff with strength on it and a big two hander with a chance on hit.
Seriously, you should do this for a living. I would buy a micro-wave that you wrote the manual for any day ;)
I agree with the lvl 6 green weapon thing, makes life a lot easier.
Oh, and about this:
Iponema wrote:
I could also add stuff about getting weapons for stats - what stats to look for on armor - but at some point we just have to draw the line.
I don't think it's a bad idea to add two lines about what stats to look for, it doesn't have to be much more than that, and would save a lot of people from the huntardness of running around with stuff with strength on it and a big two hander with a chance on hit.
Seriously, you should do this for a living. I would buy a micro-wave that you wrote the manual for any day ;)
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I don't think it's a bad idea to add two lines about what stats to look for, it doesn't have to be much more than that, and would save a lot of people from the huntardness of running around with stuff with strength on it and a big two hander with a chance on hit.
That is explained in the new sticky, don't need it in 2 places :)
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