So, I'm starting a Smite Priest. I'm not sure exactly why, other than it seems cool as hell to DPS like a motor-foe without being limited to Shadow (I already have a 70 lock and a 70 SP, why not more cloth?)spells, and some of the DISC/Holy talents sure seem sicker than making out with a cousin.
Question: Does ANYONE have Reflective Shield? I've checked the Forums and can't seem to find feedback on it either here or on Blizz's. I'm fairly sure I know the build I'll end with (31/26/4 for the Spirit Tap-Spiritual Guidance increased dmg/heal), most likely WON'T Arena, definitely will BG and World PvP.
Or is this Talent one of those good vs better Talents? As in Reflective Shield is good, but points are better spent elsewhere.
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 10:48am by Ostrakanos
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From what I understand, Reflective Shield works best with mobs throwing frostbot/fireball/arcane damage at you. Of course, if a mob is sending a frostbolt, they are more than likely immune to frost, making reflective shield useless. Same for fire and arcane mobs.
I could be way wrong, but this is the info I read when I was considering my build. If anyone knows if this is inaccurate or has been changed, I'd really like to know!
I could be way wrong, but this is the info I read when I was considering my build. If anyone knows if this is inaccurate or has been changed, I'd really like to know!
The damage dealt by Reflective Shield is not of the same type as the damage it absorbs.
Little known fact: Reflective Shield can crit, doing up to 50% extra damage.
It's a talent that makes your horribly mana inefficient oh-crap spell slightly more useful. Priests generally shouldn't be using PWS much in instances, so it's not much use in a party or raid.
In solo PVE, it's somewhat more useful. I've heard discipline priests report that about 15% of the damage they do is from Reflective Shield.
Since soloing can be a pain for healer priests, that's somewhat appealing.
In group PVP, Reflective Shield has issues because it doesn't play well with crowd control. A DoT'd mage will not appreciate your Reflective Shield breaking his sheep.
It's an interesting and fun talent, and it should be better in the next patch when PW:S starts scaling better with gear. But it's not popular because it's not a huge performer, and it competes with great talents like Spiritual Healing, Blessed Resilience, and Holy Concentration.
For that matter, to max it you'd have to skip a point in Surge of Light...bad move for a smiter!
Little known fact: Reflective Shield can crit, doing up to 50% extra damage.
It's a talent that makes your horribly mana inefficient oh-crap spell slightly more useful. Priests generally shouldn't be using PWS much in instances, so it's not much use in a party or raid.
In solo PVE, it's somewhat more useful. I've heard discipline priests report that about 15% of the damage they do is from Reflective Shield.
Since soloing can be a pain for healer priests, that's somewhat appealing.
In group PVP, Reflective Shield has issues because it doesn't play well with crowd control. A DoT'd mage will not appreciate your Reflective Shield breaking his sheep.
It's an interesting and fun talent, and it should be better in the next patch when PW:S starts scaling better with gear. But it's not popular because it's not a huge performer, and it competes with great talents like Spiritual Healing, Blessed Resilience, and Holy Concentration.
For that matter, to max it you'd have to skip a point in Surge of Light...bad move for a smiter!
The problem with Reflective Shield is that you can't Surge of Light along with it, with which comes efficiency along with the mobility and no risk of interruption that instant-casts have.
I had reflective shield for a while, and it was fun. It can also be cast on an appropriate party member like a rogue or cloth wearer, which is interesting.
The only thing I didn't like was in close quarters with mobs you are trying to get away from and decrease agro, smacking them back with reflective shield doesn't help.
I got rid of it when my emphasis went totally to healing.
The only thing I didn't like was in close quarters with mobs you are trying to get away from and decrease agro, smacking them back with reflective shield doesn't help.
I got rid of it when my emphasis went totally to healing.
Actually, Dadanoux, the damage from Reflective Shield generates no threat. Says so in the tooltip, even.
Reflective Shield is very nice for leveling and PvP. It's one of my favorite Discipline talents. I don't have it now because I can't justify it for raiding and my build is a raid build; when I start leveling again, or if I PvPed more, I'd pick it up.
Ever killed someone with nothing but Reflective Shield and SW: Pain? It can happen; it does happen!
The fact that it procs on DoTs can be a bad thing if CC is involved, but it can also create major cast-jam issues for your foes, since every proc is a distinct hit. It is, in short, a specialized spell that is wonderful in PvP and solo play, suffers in other contexts, and makes an already-useful spell amazingly efficient.
Reflective Shield is very nice for leveling and PvP. It's one of my favorite Discipline talents. I don't have it now because I can't justify it for raiding and my build is a raid build; when I start leveling again, or if I PvPed more, I'd pick it up.
Ever killed someone with nothing but Reflective Shield and SW: Pain? It can happen; it does happen!
The fact that it procs on DoTs can be a bad thing if CC is involved, but it can also create major cast-jam issues for your foes, since every proc is a distinct hit. It is, in short, a specialized spell that is wonderful in PvP and solo play, suffers in other contexts, and makes an already-useful spell amazingly efficient.
ChahDresh wrote:
Actually, Dadanoux, the damage from Reflective Shield generates no threat. Says so in the tooltip, even.
Ah, thanks for the correction. I didn't remember that.
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Little known fact: Reflective Shield can crit, doing up to 50% extra damage.
Yea, i have SCT set to color my crits, I noticed it happening recently and was quite excited.
I have had many PvP encounters where my enemy landed the killing blow on themselves via reflective shield.
Rogues don't like it when their 800 crit ambush hits them back for 400, I sure do though.
I like Reflective Shield on my Discipline Priest a lot. I solo PvE a lot, and that requires Power Word: Shield. It helps quite a bit.
The reason you don't many specs including it is because you don't find many mainly Discipline Priests; holy is better at healing, and shadow is better at damage. Discipline Priests are more common for PvP than other environments.
The reason you don't many specs including it is because you don't find many mainly Discipline Priests; holy is better at healing, and shadow is better at damage. Discipline Priests are more common for PvP than other environments.
When you put the shield up, is the damage returned based on the armor value of who it is protecting or is it based on a set value by the spell?
The damage absorbed by PW: Shield is the "final", modified damage, i.e. exactly equal to what the target would take in health damage sans shield.
Damage done is equal to 50% of damage absorbed. The shield will absorb a certain amount of damage based on its own value and the +healing of the caster. Note that it's the +healing, not +damage, that affects the _damage_ of Reflective Shield, which is why it's a good firepower option for healing-oriented priests.
Damage done is equal to 50% of damage absorbed. The shield will absorb a certain amount of damage based on its own value and the +healing of the caster. Note that it's the +healing, not +damage, that affects the _damage_ of Reflective Shield, which is why it's a good firepower option for healing-oriented priests.
I've asked a while back but does reflective shield give rage to warriors and bears similar to thorns and other return damage effects?
Addermine wrote:
I've asked a while back but does reflective shield give rage to warriors and bears similar to thorns and other return damage effects?
Reflective shield does not give a warrior or dire bear rage, it starves rage generation still. Furthermore, the damage from Reflective Shield does no threat.
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