I'm a 43 point resto-18 balance build. I heal for Kara and Gruul with my guild, and quite successfully. However, I put the 18 points in balance just to have some solo-ability and to maybe be able to DPS easier content once in while (which I've done quite well).
But-- the last thing our guild needs on runs is more range casting DPS. Lately we've been lacking an OT or perhaps a melee dps'er. I was thinking of keeping the 43 (or perhaps 42) points in resto and go 18-19 points into feral. I have strong feral gear (I was a MT druid for my guild for 11 months). I went on PTR to try out the build and in feral gear with this build, I can get about 24.5K armor, 1400 AP, 27% dodge (and only 10.7K health) in bear, and close to 1900 AP in cat.
No mangle... no crit % reduction... but I can get the 150% of level as AP, 4% extra crit, thick hide, feral charge, etc.
What do you think? Couldn't I main tank non-heroics, OT other things on occasion when we're short an OT, DPS in cat form in solo and sometimes in instances, but still mostly serve what I am-- a well equipped main healer for raids?
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Without Heart of the Wild you lose a great deal of stamina. However other than that, I don't see anything stopping you from OTing raids. Tanking non-heroics would be a a piece of cake with 24.5k armor.
Soloing though as cat, you lose mangle, lose HotW, lose Lotp, lose Primal Fury, lose shredding attacks, lose savage fury, lose faerie fire and lose brutal impact. And if you don't have Furor, lose that too.
Soloing though as cat, you lose mangle, lose HotW, lose Lotp, lose Primal Fury, lose shredding attacks, lose savage fury, lose faerie fire and lose brutal impact. And if you don't have Furor, lose that too.
Indeed, the disadvantages seem great. I suppose you could never do both equally well since that is pretty much the basis of end-game. Specialization.
If you have the gear to be uncrittable (without SotF of course), I suppose you could give it a try. Maybe even without being uncrittable, but results may vary. :P
Dunno what to think, really. I'd try to see if they need a healer or a tank/DPS more and just go that way.
If you have the gear to be uncrittable (without SotF of course), I suppose you could give it a try. Maybe even without being uncrittable, but results may vary. :P
Dunno what to think, really. I'd try to see if they need a healer or a tank/DPS more and just go that way.
OT raids fine, non heroics would be a joke as you can tank those with no points in feral and alot less stats.
I did it.. I'm happy. I can MT a non-heroic and OT in heroics/kara adequately, but most of the time I'll be what I am.. a main healer. We just had a situation a few weeks in a row where we had too many healers and not enough OTs. Problem solved with my ability to slip into that role.
As a melee DPS'er I'm not as good.. lacking all those points that are 20+ in the feral tree gimps my dam. And I can't hold aggro like a real MT without mangle. But it works in a pinch.
It's been fun soloing in cat form and doing cat/bear in AV for a change too.
As a melee DPS'er I'm not as good.. lacking all those points that are 20+ in the feral tree gimps my dam. And I can't hold aggro like a real MT without mangle. But it works in a pinch.
It's been fun soloing in cat form and doing cat/bear in AV for a change too.
As far as melee DPS, not having mangle will lose you about a third of your DPS (it really is THAT good).
On the tanking side, without SotF you will probably not be crit immune which is fine for trash, but if you are helping tank Moroes or Romulo & Julianne, then the crits will come in to play and you may be a hefty liability to the group. It would be cheaper to pay for the group to pay for a respec than to wipe a couple of times and have to pay repair bills.
On the tanking side, without SotF you will probably not be crit immune which is fine for trash, but if you are helping tank Moroes or Romulo & Julianne, then the crits will come in to play and you may be a hefty liability to the group. It would be cheaper to pay for the group to pay for a respec than to wipe a couple of times and have to pay repair bills.
Turns out I have successfully OT'd Moroes and also MT'd heroic SP with this build.
No, I'm not an ideal tank in any situation, but with two of our primary tanks on extended leaves from WoW, it's really given the group versatility.
One of the two tanks are back, so I've been able to heal kara this week :). Lead in healing last night!
No, I'm not an ideal tank in any situation, but with two of our primary tanks on extended leaves from WoW, it's really given the group versatility.
One of the two tanks are back, so I've been able to heal kara this week :). Lead in healing last night!
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