My druid is level 54, feral. Because I solo 99.99% of the time, I have no healing gear. At all. I figured once I hit Outlands I'd try to collect a set.
But today I picked up a couple of pieces of Wild Draenish armor at the AH, even though it'll be a few levels before I can wear them, because they were cheap and looked good, and I socked them in the bank.
It seemed like with those stats I could wear them questing/grinding but that they'd also be good for healing so I wouldn't necessarily need an extra pair of gloves or boots. Is that true, or is this a case of trying to make it do everything so it'll do nothing well? Did anyone else wear this armor in your late 50's/early 60's? Is it worth trying to get the set?
This may be a clueless question but I've never looked for healing gear at this level so don't really know what I should be shooting for.
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Is that true, or is this a case of trying to make it do everything so it'll do nothing well?
I wouldn't exactly say that, but you *will* be subpar in all roles while wearing such armor. It's hybrid armor, after all. It might be good for PvP if you make use of all your forms and spells but in any single form you will be weaker than a specialized Druid or counterpart class.
I would definitely advise getting two different sets. For just two slots, I wouldn't really bother getting gear that fits two opposite roles, unless I was ultra tight on bank/inventory space. And even then I'd just make place. :P
If you are fully Feral, I don't think that a +SpellDmg, rather than straight +Heal, set is good enough. You'd probably need as much healing gear as possible to make up for the off-spec.
Set bonus is kinda nice but overall you'll end up replacing those, most likely. Since you bought them already though, try them out and see how you like it, at least for your first Outland levels. But you'll still be better off with some blue quest rewards in the end. ;)
Also, just a note: I dunno for Druids, but as a Holy Pally, after doing all the frickin quests I still didn't get real Holy Pally bracers and shoulders. I'd suggest checking that out ahead of time. If it turns out there are few choices for boots and/or gloves, it might turn out to be a decent investment.
Edited, Oct 26th 2007 11:57pm by Selverein
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There really isn't anything for druids either. At kara level, I am using the veteran's bracers and assassination shoulders.
honestyly I use 90% cloth with a few peices of leather dropped into the mix. remember you shouldn't (<----key word) be getting hit as a healer. Preists have been healing the horde for forever now and they on;y have cloth so it must work right? :D
But in all reality if you are healing just go with cloth quest rewards till you get some good leather so you can drop into bear till the war gets that annoying mob of of you. Since you already have those two then by all means use them but don't expect to heal any outlands instances any time soon once you get a decent set to gether you should be OK for BRD and other simaler old world instances. Offspecc healing with out good gear = Very very bad (just ask a shadow preist).
But in all reality if you are healing just go with cloth quest rewards till you get some good leather so you can drop into bear till the war gets that annoying mob of of you. Since you already have those two then by all means use them but don't expect to heal any outlands instances any time soon once you get a decent set to gether you should be OK for BRD and other simaler old world instances. Offspecc healing with out good gear = Very very bad (just ask a shadow preist).
Thanks folks! Just the kind of advice I needed.
I'll hang onto these for now but I haven't equipped them yet so if something better comes along before I can wear them, I can always auction them back. Since I solo and don't do instances though, my eq generally sucks and they might be the best I come across for a while even for running around feral.
I will definitely collect cloth healing gear in the Outlands in case I ever decide to stop being such a loner.
I'll hang onto these for now but I haven't equipped them yet so if something better comes along before I can wear them, I can always auction them back. Since I solo and don't do instances though, my eq generally sucks and they might be the best I come across for a while even for running around feral.
I will definitely collect cloth healing gear in the Outlands in case I ever decide to stop being such a loner.
Grab the Thick Draenic set, too, that's the other craftable 4-piece set for your 60s. It's just as cheap and easily available, and it's a perfect melee set with +agility, +stamina and +AP on every piece, and 2- and 4-piece set bonuses of +hit and +crit. The two pieces were clearly custom made to serve the verstsality needs of druids.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=thick+draenic
http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=wild+draenish
I wore every piece of Thick Draenish and Wild Draenic armor as I hit the requisite level. Wild Draenic was my default and healing set, and when I was gonna mix it up melee in cat of bear, Thick Draenic was the ticket. These pieces from both sets outclassed or equalled the drops and rewards I was getting (yes even in the Outlands) and the set bonus usually pushed it over the top. When I got the full sets at 65 I swear I was wearing both of them through like 68 or so.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=thick+draenic
http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=wild+draenish
I wore every piece of Thick Draenish and Wild Draenic armor as I hit the requisite level. Wild Draenic was my default and healing set, and when I was gonna mix it up melee in cat of bear, Thick Draenic was the ticket. These pieces from both sets outclassed or equalled the drops and rewards I was getting (yes even in the Outlands) and the set bonus usually pushed it over the top. When I got the full sets at 65 I swear I was wearing both of them through like 68 or so.
Hey thanks JeeBar. My husband's 70 is a leatherworker and I was just wondering last night whether he should make a me that Thick Draenic set. It's like 10 levels before I can wear the whole thing, but I'll get it together and sock it in the bank for later.
Looks like I need Outlands mobs to skin the leather? May be worth waiting til I get there at 58 and try to get the leather myself. I'm cheap now cause I'm saving for my epic mount. :)
Looks like I need Outlands mobs to skin the leather? May be worth waiting til I get there at 58 and try to get the leather myself. I'm cheap now cause I'm saving for my epic mount. :)
teacake wrote:
Hey thanks JeeBar. My husband's 70 is a leatherworker and I was just wondering last night whether he should make a me that Thick Draenic set. It's like 10 levels before I can wear the whole thing, but I'll get it together and sock it in the bank for later.
teacake wrote:
Looks like I need Outlands mobs to skin the leather? May be worth waiting til I get there at 58 and try to get the leather myself. I'm cheap now cause I'm saving for my epic mount. :)
JeeBar wrote:
But don't lay off the skinning...you can easily max out your skinning at 300 before you leave Azeroth.
Are you kidding me? My skinning, herbalism, fishing, and cooking have been maxed out at 300 for several levels now, just waiting for the Outlands to be able to skill up again. I am the *master* of wandering around wasting time. :)
It's likely you can walk into Outlands with an easy 315-330 skill in a gathering profession if you went to train for 375 around level 50.
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It's likely you can walk into Outlands with an easy 315-330 skill in a gathering profession if you went to train for 375 around level 50.
How, if all the trainers are in the Outlands? Pay someone to port me there? Not sure I care enough to spend $ on it. I'm pretty cheap.
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soggymaster wrote:
It's likely you can walk into Outlands with an easy 315-330 skill in a gathering profession if you went to train for 375 around level 50.
How, if all the trainers are in the Outlands? Pay someone to port me there? Not
sure I care enough to spend $ on it. I'm pretty cheap.
Trips to the Outlands don't cost much. Since your RL hubby's a 70, he should be able to get you a lift to the Outlands gratis from a guildie or buddy. And at least on my server mages and locks offer summons or trips for like 1g.
There are master skinning trainers in Shattrath (Seymour http://thottbot.com/c19180) and Honor Hold in Hellfire Peninsula (Nelf chick Jelena Nightsky near the inn).
Shucks, get a tp or summon to Outlands, and HEARTH there. You have teleportal to all major cities - it's a great place to hearth.
If you know someone around your level in Shattrah, you can just make a group with them and have the other person sign as group for a battleground. Then you get transported for free to shattrah when you exit the battleground ;)
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Shucks, get a tp or summon to Outlands, and HEARTH there. You have teleportal to all major cities - it's a great place to hearth.
That's brilliant, Iponema, wish I'd thought of that. I always felt like sub-58s in Shat were posers but that's a pretty good idea.
At least I'm not my buddy who hit 70 while I was still in my mid-50s.
I'd always wondered how people dealt with the PITA of getting between Azeroth and Outlands, then I got there and found the teleport station and was very happy. I told him how psyched I was to be hearthed at Shat so I could port anywhere, and he was like "What?!? you mean I don't have to run from SW every time I want to get to the Outlands?"
D'OH!!!
I like your Battleground group trick, too, DK. : )
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Thick Draenic Gloves/Pants are a nice combo getting just into Outlands (big stats at those lvls, and +hit set bonus), but the boots and Vest have too high a lvl req, before you get to the lvl to wear those you should have MAJORLY better armor just from questing.
Wild Draenish is hybrid gear...and hybrid gear never works in PvE...just do I I did for Healer set - on all the quests that dont have feral upgrades for you, pick the healer item. Also in instances alot of groups will allow the feral druid to need caster leather if your the only druid in the group. My healer set I've never even wore before is just as good as my DPS set.
Wild Draenish is hybrid gear...and hybrid gear never works in PvE...just do I I did for Healer set - on all the quests that dont have feral upgrades for you, pick the healer item. Also in instances alot of groups will allow the feral druid to need caster leather if your the only druid in the group. My healer set I've never even wore before is just as good as my DPS set.
Therulnig wrote:
Thick Draenic Gloves/Pants are a nice combo getting just into Outlands (big stats at those lvls, and +hit set bonus), but the boots and Vest have too high a lvl req, before you get to the lvl to wear those you should have MAJORLY better armor just from questing.
I dunno, man, I was working the Outlands quest scene pretty hard through my mid- to late-60's and just didn't see many upgrades to the Thick Draenic pieces, letalone MAJORLY better pieces. Granted, I don't get to run as many instances as I'd like and I'm sure dungeon drops and maybe dungeon quests give you phatter lewt than I was getting, but I'll believe it if I see it.
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Wild Draenish is hybrid gear...and hybrid gear never works in PvE...just do I I did for Healer set - on all the quests that dont have feral upgrades for you, pick the healer item. Also in instances alot of groups will allow the feral druid to need caster leather if your the only druid in the group. My healer set I've never even wore before is just as good as my DPS set.
While I think "hybrid gear never works for PvE" is a bit melodramatic I fully agree on the strategy for collecting caster/healer gear, but think the Wild Draenish set can be a valuable filler at four key slots amidst that strategy, at least for ferals.
My guess is that balance/resto types rely more on maxing out their +int, +spirit, +spelldamage and healing and therefore benefit more from gear focused on those stats.
I equipped the Wild Draenish set planning to upgrade as stuff became available, and wore it a lot longer than I expected. The stuff I got as drops and rewards just didn't beat it out in a fair fight. Most was comparable, and the set bonus kept me in Wild Draenish. The set gives you a total of +59 int, +111 stamina, and +103 healing and damage. Not too shabby for those stats themselves, then on top of that there's +61 agility and +61 strength. Especially for a feral druid, it's nice to have a casting/healing set that lets you drop into furry form mid-combat and kick some ***.
Edited, Oct 30th 2007 5:08pm by JeeBar
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Thick Draenic Vest:
243 Armor, 25 agil, 39 stam, 52 atk power.
The biggest killer is the Elemental LW BoP pattern, but lets disqualify that for being BoP pattern. Theres some Rep and Instance rewards that are better, but I'll limit it to questing.
Jerkin of the Untamed Spirit you can get 5 levels before the vest and it sacrifices stamina for more armor. (has same agil, and has the str equal to 52 atk power, which is actually better pre2.3)
Thick Draenic Boots:
159 armor, 17 agil, 27 stam, 36 atk power.
Even easier to beat...no contest Sure-Step boots are better and require 1 run of ramparts to get...If you missed those Studded Green anklewraps are different but good. (has 30 str, which after cat form gives way more atk power than either, Has less Stam/Agil but adds Dodge and Hit rating to the mix)
The 15 crit rating from having these two pieces just don't cut it for me, especailly since such major upgrades exist if you instance or pick up LWing.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 3:04am by Therulnig
243 Armor, 25 agil, 39 stam, 52 atk power.
The biggest killer is the Elemental LW BoP pattern, but lets disqualify that for being BoP pattern. Theres some Rep and Instance rewards that are better, but I'll limit it to questing.
Jerkin of the Untamed Spirit you can get 5 levels before the vest and it sacrifices stamina for more armor. (has same agil, and has the str equal to 52 atk power, which is actually better pre2.3)
Thick Draenic Boots:
159 armor, 17 agil, 27 stam, 36 atk power.
Even easier to beat...no contest Sure-Step boots are better and require 1 run of ramparts to get...If you missed those Studded Green anklewraps are different but good. (has 30 str, which after cat form gives way more atk power than either, Has less Stam/Agil but adds Dodge and Hit rating to the mix)
The 15 crit rating from having these two pieces just don't cut it for me, especailly since such major upgrades exist if you instance or pick up LWing.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2007 3:04am by Therulnig
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