Prince Tanking Strategy (theory)Follow

holy shield + libram gives you an additional 40 something percent

I know, as I stated in my post, that still don't give 75% no matter how you look at it.

Yeah, that's not at all an exploit. No sirree! My Common Sense-o-Meter is reading zero, Captain!

Player 1: That's no strat... it's an exploit!
Player 2: It's too good to be an exploit!
Player 3: I have a very bad feeling about this.
Player 2: Yeah... I think you're right. Full reverse! Reset the encounter!
Player 3: Why aren't we resetting?
Player 2: We're caught in a ban beam! It's pulling us in!
Player 3: There's gotta be something we can do!
Player 2: There's nothing I can do, kid! There's nothing I can do about a GM with that much bannability!

In unrelated news, I'm incredibly bored... and this is a terrible idea. If you're overgearing Kara by that much you shouldn't be taking that much damage to make this even a factor, and even if you are it's a whopping 5.6% chance to take slightly more incoming damage at the cost of greatly extending the phase and running the risk of losing the mob. Just keep attacking, and stop using a 'safe' spot to cheese the encounter out of any actual difficulty.

Ive never needed to use a safe spot. Sometimes you get unlucky with the infernal spawns but meh, there are a bunch of fights with luck as part of it.

Incidentally, this is exactly the same argument given by people who supported the old Razorgore exploit. If you aren't familiar with the mob, a brief review;

Razorgore was the first boss in Blackwing Lair. The way his encounter worked is that you would have one player click on an orb to Mind Control him. He had several abilities, the most important of which was one that you could use to break an "egg" scattered around his boss area. Until all eggs were destroyed Orc NPCs would continually spawn and attack Razorgore - the players had to protect Razorgore until all of the eggs were gone. If Razorgore died before the eggs were gone (either by players just attempting to kill him or similar) then he would nuke the entire zone and despawn, rather than leaving loot behind or opening the way forward to the next boss... which meant that you had to deal with the adds, either by kiting them or killing them all, until all the eggs were down. Once the eggs were gone the NPCs would all run away and Razorgore would reset to full health (and stop being able to be MC'd), at which point you could kill him.

The entire challenge of the fight involved dealing with Phase 1; unless your entire raid was dead (and even then) if you could push him into Phase 2 you'd pretty much already won, as his damage is trivial and easily dealt with.

Now, certain players discovered that if you cast Divine Intervention on Razorgore while he was Mind Controlled he would instantly 'reset'... but _all_ of the eggs would despawn. Your entire raid would also die, but they could either be waiting outside the zone or you could just rez them up and pull Razorgore without having to deal with phase 1. This removed the entire challenge of the fight and turned what should have been something of a teamwork building exercise into a complete joke (incidentally, this tended to backfire as guild's had no previous experience with any real challenges as they moved into Vaelstrasz. Whoops.)

At the time, the same arguments were made for it being a 'legit' strategy... that there hadn't been any specific Blizzard comment stating that skipping the entire phase 1 was an exploit, so clearly it wasn't! And the argument was just as retarded as arguing that using safe spots on Prince isn't an exploit.

And that is what I meant with the common sense comment. You may not ever get in trouble for it, but that doesn't stop it from a) being incredibly cheesy, b) being an exploit, and c) making you an idiot... especially if you try to rationalize it that way.

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 3:26pm by RPZip

I thought he was referencing Star Trek.

You should be thankful that Rpzip explained it all for you.

Though it would have been more heartening if you had figured it out on your own. If you are giving out crackpot ideas like that on an encounter as simple as Prince what are you going to do when you get to Magtheridon and beyond?

Mmmmmmhmmmm

You can do it, however the benefit gained is ridiculously small compared to the hassle it creates. Anyone with a modicum of common sense could see that from a mile off.

Any which way you look at it, it was a really fricking bad idea. Suck it up and admit it.

Just a quick necro bump for yah Capn'

I Mted Prince again last night and tried your strat ouut.
/em eats words

It worked, while I didn't notice a difference, healers said
there seemed to be less spikyness goin on.

Heh We got 2 mages and a hunter that seriously out gear Kara and Gruuls
thier threat out put is amazing. It was scary watching the mages creep up so
fast on threat, but in the end I managed to stay on top.

Since I wasnt attacking htho I didnt switch ou to my suneater for phase 2 like I normaly do.

Sor Judgements, Sov is too much much of a crap shoot.