Wtf is going on with the change in gear stats when 2.3 hits Follow

I just might be a bit slow, but I've just noticed that Blizz is making allmost every usefull pala plate drop pre. TBC into rubish. F.ex.

Foreman's Head Protector

Stats before 2.3

Binds when picked up
Head Plate
469 Armor
+15 Strength
+11 Interlect
+14 Stamina
Durability 80 / 80
Requires Level 50
Equip: Increase damage and healing done by magic
spells and magic effects by up to 13

Stats after 2.3

Binds when picked up
Head Plate
469 Armor
+15 Strength
+17 Agility
+14 Stamina
Durability 80 / 80
Requires Level 50

Another example:

Spiderfang Carapace

Stats before 2.3

Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
567 Armor
+14 Strength
+14 interlect
+14 Stamina
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 49
Equip: Increase damage and healing done by magic
spells and magic effects by up to 13

Stats after 2.3

Spiderfang Carapace
Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
567 Armor
+19 Strength
+14 Stamina
Durability 135 / 135
Requires Level 49
Equip: Improves hit rating by 13

I know 99.9% of ppls visiting the forum does not give a sh*t about this (being lvl 70 or higher), but for the minority (like myself) playing around enjoying the old part of the game, this is really annoying. The drops from BRD where some of the first "useful" palatank drops - now turned into "yet another Warrior dps drop". It might be, that they (Blizz) whant ret palas to be the lvl'ing spec for paladins, and the gear to match that, but:

1) They can just jump into the allready existing dps warrior plate
2) I DON'T REALLY GIVE A sh*t about ret paladins.

The biggest problem with the changing in itemstats is not the "no more pala tanking", it's the "no more interlect and spell dmg gear for pala period!". Are we supposed to take (if holy) our two fantastic heals and wear cloth just to have a little mana? After 2.3 every pre TBC pala will be forced to be ret. Ofc it's still possible to be holy pala in cloth gear, but come on. Would any sane groupleader pick a pala (who only has 1 real healing ability) who is wearing cloth, over anyother healing class?

There's prob allready a post or 100 on O'board about this - but now it's allso here :)... (Man I'm getting all worked up about this :P)
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Edited, Oct 26th 2007 1:04pm by ashbazg

Edited, Oct 26th 2007 1:05pm by ashbazg

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I have no problem with a cloth-wearing Paladin healer, as long as he still gets the stats that are necessary to heal.

I think you are getting all worked up over really nothing, so-called "Paladin Plate" is a joke pre-60. It's also pretty much unnecessary at this point in the game. It was, however, necessary pre-TBC.

Here's why: Paladin Tanking was a huge conservation of mana battle. You didn't get mana returns on heals, so mana would be drained pretty quickly if you didn't watch it. Int/Mp5/spelldamage was more necessary then so that you could somewhat manage a minute or 2 minute long fight.

Now, Paladin Tanking is much less reliable on "spellcaster" stats. The only one we still rely on is spelldamage, which is not even really necessary until you hit 70. Threat generation with 0 spell damage is ample enough to get by until you get end-game.

As for AOE grinding, you have SoL and SoW to keep up your health and mana, if you are running low on either a quick manipulation will allow you to bring back up your stats.

For healing, you aren't taking a beating, so cloth/leather/mail is good enough to hold you by. For soloing/questing, having another set makes the difference trivial if you spec right, SoC is only 11 points in Retribution.

And a retribution paladin is obviously not even focused on those stats anyways, so it's not a big deal.

/em slowly nods head "please dont cry"

I concur.

And if it was to remain in the 59 bracket or something, with the extreme rarity of SpellDmg on gear, +13 would not have mattered that much I believe.

I would also strongly encourage getting Outland gear. ;P

if u have noticed the changes in talents that were made to paladins in da new patch u would find:
1 change to prot,
0 change to holy,
all others to ret, and all buffs

why? because bliz realized that ret they made is supposed to do DPS instead of glancing atks, so they made ret better

and to encourage ppl to play ret (i think less than 5% of lvl 70 paladins are right now), what's better than making gears good for ret? so that ppl would like to try it out at least.

but still, it doesnt change the prejudis amoung other players about ret, so the raiding chance still looks slim...