so yeah, im lvl 70 doing Old Hills Brad for a friend. one of my personal favorates mearly because i walk in with my spell damage armor and rock that place clean.
and this Ret starts telling me all kinds of dumb things. like aura combos and blessings . . asking me if i will be able to tank, bla bla, insisting up and down that i should be running devo so team takes less damage. . . maybe he didnt know that its a lvl 65 instance and it can be tanked with my *** cheeks . . but meh.
i eventually let him know that ive run it like a dozen times, and he ends up telling me that he just wanted to make sure i wasnt a prot noob, that he used to be prot bla bla . . . . and this comming from a Ret pally i almost threw my mouse at my roomate as he walked by, just out of frustration.
the only thing keeping me in this team is the need to show this guy how a real tank gets the job done (yes i know its only a 65 instance, but its still fun to do your job like a hero sometimes).
so we start, 4man because some dolt decided to run to the gas station real quick, and im doing my thing, pulling both pats and groups in one go, fighting 6-8 things at a time. HP never dropping below 75%, never losing agro . .
then he did it . . . dropped blessing of protection on me . . . .
i dont think i have ever been so pissed at any one player before in my life . .
my roomate thought it was funny, as he distinctly knows what it looks like as we duo'd from lvl 20-70. But that one Ret pally i think has ruined any chance for any other ret to ever be in my team . .
whats even worse was our shamen who i thought was the healer, was taking turns every other fight. switching between who would dps and who would heal me (with the ret). .
apperently my life is pretty fickle and these guys are complete douche bags . . gahh!
Edited, Oct 24th 2007 4:42pm by RuenBahamut
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it's ok, it's ok, shhhhhh you're with family now *pats head* I won't let the scary rettard hurt you anymore.
LMAO!!!! My co-workers are looking @ my like im on crack because I'm laughing so hard.
OMG! That's gotta be one of the DUMBEST things I have ever heard of! I feel for ya Ruen, I do.
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
then he did it . . . dropped blessing of protection on me . . . .
Could be worse. Could have DI'ed you.
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
so yeah, im lvl 70 doing Old Hills Brad for a friend. one of my personal favorates mearly because i walk in with my spell damage armor and rock that place clean.
and this Ret starts telling me all kinds of dumb things. like aura combos and blessings . .
and this Ret starts telling me all kinds of dumb things. like aura combos and blessings . .
about this time i'd either be telling him to shut up or seeing if i have any other dps in my guild that wants to go in his place......
TheRuenBahamaut of Doom wrote:
asking me if i will be able to tank
um, maybe i'm petty, but from the type of person you make him out to be, i want to know why you put up with this at all... why didn't he get the boot at this point? dps is easy to find. tanks not so much. you had plenty of leverage.
TheRuenBahamaut of Doom wrote:
he just wanted to make sure i wasnt a prot noob
cause prot noobs are soo much more common than ret noobs...i'm sure i've come accross one or two, just can't remember it....
TheRuenBahamaut of Doom wrote:
then he did it . . . dropped blessing of protection on me . . . .
ok, not sure why you let him stay this long... but if he didn't get booted at this point, there was more idiots than just the ret.....
TheRuenBahamaut of Doom wrote:
But that one Ret pally i think has ruined any chance for any other ret to ever be in my team
thats stupid. you know how many ****** hunters or even shadow priests i've grouped with? many. i can't judge those classes just cause some are retarded. i've only ever grouped w/ 2 ret pallys in outlands and both were good and 2 of the smoothest groups i've been on. i'd say if you judge the class by one guy you're being overly closed-minded. i hope you pur him on ignore and just think a little more when anyone is acting stupid even before you start your instance...
level 52 I looked into the lfg list for st. great 2 warriors and 1 paladin. invite them
Guys what spec are you .
warrior (56). 2 hander
warrior (52). 2 hander
paladin retri.
emm do you have the gear for tanking warrior
Never got around to getting any. never though I needed it. (56)
Err Tanking gear? emm I think I have a 32 shield somewhere but I never trained any one hand weapons.(52)
Emm how about you do you have any healing gear or tanking gear paldin?
what gear? I'm dps.
This is from frostmourne . The server which is always LFM tank 8 times out of 10 for hours on end.
Guys what spec are you .
warrior (56). 2 hander
warrior (52). 2 hander
paladin retri.
emm do you have the gear for tanking warrior
Never got around to getting any. never though I needed it. (56)
Err Tanking gear? emm I think I have a 32 shield somewhere but I never trained any one hand weapons.(52)
Emm how about you do you have any healing gear or tanking gear paldin?
what gear? I'm dps.
This is from frostmourne . The server which is always LFM tank 8 times out of 10 for hours on end.
The beauty of being a healer
"Lose the ret pally or I am dropping group"
/kick ******
Not that I was that hardcore, however I always inspected them before we went in and they always had ***** gear.
"Lose the ret pally or I am dropping group"
/kick ******
Not that I was that hardcore, however I always inspected them before we went in and they always had ***** gear.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Addermine wrote:
level 52 I looked into the lfg list for st. great 2 warriors and 1 paladin. invite them
Guys what spec are you .
warrior (56). 2 hander
warrior (52). 2 hander
paladin retri.
emm do you have the gear for tanking warrior
Never got around to getting any. never though I needed it. (56)
Err Tanking gear? emm I think I have a 32 shield somewhere but I never trained any one hand weapons.(52)
Emm how about you do you have any healing gear or tanking gear paldin?
what gear? I'm dps.
This is from frostmourne . The server which is always LFM tank 8 times out of 10 for hours on end.
Guys what spec are you .
warrior (56). 2 hander
warrior (52). 2 hander
paladin retri.
emm do you have the gear for tanking warrior
Never got around to getting any. never though I needed it. (56)
Err Tanking gear? emm I think I have a 32 shield somewhere but I never trained any one hand weapons.(52)
Emm how about you do you have any healing gear or tanking gear paldin?
what gear? I'm dps.
This is from frostmourne . The server which is always LFM tank 8 times out of 10 for hours on end.
first of all is there any server that isn't lf1m tank for hours on end?
secondly, at 52 to tank for ST as a dps war or ret pally all you need is a good healer and up to date armor. i made a second pally (love the class) and specc'd ret for lvl'ing and farming. she's at lvl 55 now, at 51-53 i did ST more times than i wanted to. i tanked about 75% of them and often brought another pally a couple lvl's behind me so i'd know i have a competent healer. mostly (i know i'll be hated for this) i tanked w/ my 2h except at the bosses, where i used my shield and 1h (exept the trolls of course... they're cake). in BRD at 54 i noticed it was considerably harder to tank, even using my shield/1h. time to turn in my str/sta/def shield and 1h for an int/+heal/mp5 shield and 1h.
oh, and if you think its tough finding someone willing to tank in the 50s, just wait till 70s instances. you don't know how many times i've been tempted to respec my healadin to a tankadin.
toolofjesus wrote:
first of all is there any server that isn't lf1m tank for hours on end?
Yes, mine when I'm specced prot (then everyone is LF1M Healer), until I respecc healer.
several reasons i stayed, and didnt kick the Ret,
1. i was doing it for my friend, who happens to be my roomate.
2. the other 3 all knew each other i think even in RL. (and i wasnt leader)
3. its still so easy of an instance that despite the idiocy, was still easy to complete.
it was just an overall frustrating experience.
1. i was doing it for my friend, who happens to be my roomate.
2. the other 3 all knew each other i think even in RL. (and i wasnt leader)
3. its still so easy of an instance that despite the idiocy, was still easy to complete.
it was just an overall frustrating experience.
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Yes, mine when I'm specced prot (then everyone is LF1M Healer), until I respecc healer.
Amen.
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
several reasons i stayed, and didnt kick the Ret,
1. i was doing it for my friend, who happens to be my roomate.
2. the other 3 all knew each other i think even in RL. (and i wasnt leader)
3. its still so easy of an instance that despite the idiocy, was still easy to complete.
it was just an overall frustrating experience.
1. i was doing it for my friend, who happens to be my roomate.
2. the other 3 all knew each other i think even in RL. (and i wasnt leader)
3. its still so easy of an instance that despite the idiocy, was still easy to complete.
it was just an overall frustrating experience.
hmm, very well then. helping your friend is a good enough reason. all is forgiven. if your friend is a healer though and your a tank its pretty easy to get a group. but if you cleared it anyway and don't mind frustration i suppose it doesn't hurt to stay.
ur sayint that he did this newb *** thing because he's speced ret?
or has he ruined all the ret paladin's image because of this? but even if he was playing prot or holy (apperently the best spec all other classes think of paladin) he would have done the same
so dont say ret in my team/wrists
instead say: newb ****** (paladin) in my team/wrists
or has he ruined all the ret paladin's image because of this? but even if he was playing prot or holy (apperently the best spec all other classes think of paladin) he would have done the same
so dont say ret in my team/wrists
instead say: newb ****** (paladin) in my team/wrists
you can call me prejudgice you like, but there are only two types of people that make a ret. at least this is how the gear turn in my head.
1: only 5% of the Rets have an intimate knowledge of WoW's mechanics and have the skill and didication to make it work.
2: everyone else who dont know jack about anything. if they did know even half what they should, they would have not rolled Ret once at 70.
any other class i wont judge due to crappy players. Ret pallies are my exeption. for me, Rets are guilty untill proven innocent.
Sorry.
1: only 5% of the Rets have an intimate knowledge of WoW's mechanics and have the skill and didication to make it work.
2: everyone else who dont know jack about anything. if they did know even half what they should, they would have not rolled Ret once at 70.
any other class i wont judge due to crappy players. Ret pallies are my exeption. for me, Rets are guilty untill proven innocent.
Sorry.
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
Ret pallies are my exeption. for me, Rets are guilty untill proven innocent.
Sorry.
Sorry.
lol, same with me. I've seen one Ret Paladin that isn't a total noob, and grouped with a couple dozen at least. Even Huntards have a higher percentage of people that are competent ...
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Posted: Oct 25 2007 at 4:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yep, that'd be the definition of prejudiced... never did have much use for closed minded or prejudiced people.
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toolofjesus wrote:
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
you can call me prejudgice you like........any other class i wont judge due to crappy players. Ret pallies are my exeption. for me, Rets are guilty untill proven innocent.
yep, that'd be the definition of prejudiced... never did have much use for closed minded or prejudiced people.
I'll agree that there are many many many players out there who play Ret without exactly knowing how, but the truth is, judging a class due to crappy players is a terrible way to look at this game.
I see a lot of crappy players out of every class... doesn't mean that I solo everything in the game.
I rolled a pally recently and even I'M not STUPID enough to do that... just wow I dont know what to say...and that shaman should NOT let a ret heal no matter what spec unless he is decked out in healing gear
I think the point behind Ruen's and Maulgak's prejudice was somewhat misunderstood. I share the same opinion and lemme try to show it from a different angle:
People who know about WoW mechanics and about what it takes to be a good end-game DPSer, or just a good DPSer at all, know that the Retribution tree is not suited for it. It is little more than a leveling tree and PvP tree. Beyond that, it's been discussed thoroughly that it is not an adequate spec for DPS purposes.
Now, if someone rolled a Pally, out of any and all classes, to be a "leet DPSer" while he has the potential to be an absolutely awesome single-target healer or an absolutely awesome multi-mob tank, I cannot help but think he missed something somewhere. (I'll avoid the expression "retarded" here because maybe he is simply new or something... ...)
Sure, some people may be able to play the spec and push it to its limits. However, one cannot help but wonder why one would choose that class. If a player is so talented, why not make a Rogue or a Mage who is obviously better suited for the role?
Thus, the "logic" reasoning would be: Good players who can DPS and do a good job will roll a core DPS class, while worse players, or simply players who don't care much what others think, will make a Ret Pally anyway. So, if the player is bad, I don't want him in my team, despite my soft-hearted nature. And if he is the kind who does not care about others and rolls the way he wants, chances are high that he will be a nuisance in the group.
Also note that the picture of the typical Ret Pally player is a kid who wants to be that invincible fighter, as powerful as a Warrior while as self-preserving as a Resto/Holy spec'd healer. In other words, the "Godly" class, which we know does not exist.
I hope I was kinda clear. It's a bit late and all so it may not have come out exactly like I wanted it to. Not trying to be offensive or anything, just trying to make a point.
People who know about WoW mechanics and about what it takes to be a good end-game DPSer, or just a good DPSer at all, know that the Retribution tree is not suited for it. It is little more than a leveling tree and PvP tree. Beyond that, it's been discussed thoroughly that it is not an adequate spec for DPS purposes.
Now, if someone rolled a Pally, out of any and all classes, to be a "leet DPSer" while he has the potential to be an absolutely awesome single-target healer or an absolutely awesome multi-mob tank, I cannot help but think he missed something somewhere. (I'll avoid the expression "retarded" here because maybe he is simply new or something... ...)
Sure, some people may be able to play the spec and push it to its limits. However, one cannot help but wonder why one would choose that class. If a player is so talented, why not make a Rogue or a Mage who is obviously better suited for the role?
Thus, the "logic" reasoning would be: Good players who can DPS and do a good job will roll a core DPS class, while worse players, or simply players who don't care much what others think, will make a Ret Pally anyway. So, if the player is bad, I don't want him in my team, despite my soft-hearted nature. And if he is the kind who does not care about others and rolls the way he wants, chances are high that he will be a nuisance in the group.
Also note that the picture of the typical Ret Pally player is a kid who wants to be that invincible fighter, as powerful as a Warrior while as self-preserving as a Resto/Holy spec'd healer. In other words, the "Godly" class, which we know does not exist.
I hope I was kinda clear. It's a bit late and all so it may not have come out exactly like I wanted it to. Not trying to be offensive or anything, just trying to make a point.
I have plenty of similar stories.
I was tanking Hellfire Ramparts (which has to be the easiest instance imaginable for a Prot Paladin.... large numbers of relatively weak melee mobs in easily-managed groups) with a supposedly Holy Paladin as the healer. I notice he never starts healing me until I am at critical health;
Me: Why arent you healing before 40%?
Noob: You're Prot right?
Me: Yeah....
Noob: So you have Ardent Defender? Saves my mana.
Shoulda quit group right there. We keep trying, hacking through the groups, every time Im watching my bar twitch closer and closer to death, finished one pack on 8% HP, healer mana was at 90%.
Me: But you have tons of mana, use it!
Noob: But I dont have any mana drinks!
Aha.
Next pack, he is healing raggedly and slowly, the biggest pack in the instance is now carving me down and his hands arent even glowing yet.
5%...3%...1% *Bubble*
So, Im invincible and the mobs start chasing after everyone else. I wait for the heal, so I can cancel my shield and get tanking again. No heal. Paladin runs in circles, attacking mobs with 41DPS healing mace and no Seal. Everyone dies.
Me: Why the furk didnt you heal me? What happened?
Noob: What happened? Oh, thats right, you bubbled, thats what happened, you wiped us!
Me: Yeah but I was at 1% HP, I had about two seconds to live!
Noob: Yeah, and I was about to use LoH
...
~sins
I was tanking Hellfire Ramparts (which has to be the easiest instance imaginable for a Prot Paladin.... large numbers of relatively weak melee mobs in easily-managed groups) with a supposedly Holy Paladin as the healer. I notice he never starts healing me until I am at critical health;
Me: Why arent you healing before 40%?
Noob: You're Prot right?
Me: Yeah....
Noob: So you have Ardent Defender? Saves my mana.
Shoulda quit group right there. We keep trying, hacking through the groups, every time Im watching my bar twitch closer and closer to death, finished one pack on 8% HP, healer mana was at 90%.
Me: But you have tons of mana, use it!
Noob: But I dont have any mana drinks!
Aha.
Next pack, he is healing raggedly and slowly, the biggest pack in the instance is now carving me down and his hands arent even glowing yet.
5%...3%...1% *Bubble*
So, Im invincible and the mobs start chasing after everyone else. I wait for the heal, so I can cancel my shield and get tanking again. No heal. Paladin runs in circles, attacking mobs with 41DPS healing mace and no Seal. Everyone dies.
Me: Why the furk didnt you heal me? What happened?
Noob: What happened? Oh, thats right, you bubbled, thats what happened, you wiped us!
Me: Yeah but I was at 1% HP, I had about two seconds to live!
Noob: Yeah, and I was about to use LoH
...
~sins
you'd think my feelings would be hurt, but lawl retnubs.
lol, no gas = no generator = no power = no computer = no wow = sad hermit
my feeling on Retnubs: most people roll pallies as mains, very few roll as an alt(cept BE). thus many pallies are new players. new players usually spec to kill. these new killers have no outside instruction and stay spec'd and play the same way as they solo'd.
biggest problem: Blizz gave Ret pallies too many f@ck-up buttons. they either aggro like a fool, heal like an idiot, or do something dumb(like BoP the MT)
2 words come to mind: Leeroy Jenkins
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so we start, 4man because some dolt decided to run to the gas station real quick
lol, no gas = no generator = no power = no computer = no wow = sad hermit
my feeling on Retnubs: most people roll pallies as mains, very few roll as an alt(cept BE). thus many pallies are new players. new players usually spec to kill. these new killers have no outside instruction and stay spec'd and play the same way as they solo'd.
biggest problem: Blizz gave Ret pallies too many f@ck-up buttons. they either aggro like a fool, heal like an idiot, or do something dumb(like BoP the MT)
2 words come to mind: Leeroy Jenkins
To the OP we all have our moments with the oddballs of our Paladin Family. Just last night an Old Paladin friend of mine wanted the shield off the last boss of Heroic Underbog. Since I already had the shield and am normally Holy I decided to switch to Ret just for fun and games with a few guildies. Things are going along great until we get to the last boss and weird things start to happen.
Armed with Legacy, a 27% Crit Chance, Sancity Aura, and Seal of Command I managed to rip hate off our tank within the first few seconds due to some vicious crits from both melee and SoC followed by another crit from Crusader Strike. Let the record know I am not proud of this in the least. I start taking damage and bubble and back off. I toss a weak (by my normal standards anyways) Holy Light on myself and run back in after hate has been reestablished. The links from the Black Stalker start overwhelming the tank...and yep you guessed it...Blessing of Protection to the Tank....Black Stalker runs for the Warlock...I throw on Righteous Fury, Lay down a Consecration, and try to get it down the last 5% with the Hunter....Potions used...Killing Blow....Dead Ret Paladin.
Never on God's Green Earth have I ever seen the same thing the OP has. Dont people know by now that Blessing of Protection sheds hate?
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I have to confess to being a little sneaky in AV once... I had those Capture quests to complete, and a naughty Rogue was ninjacapping the SP Graveyard.... GY caps arent easy to find so... I sort of... BoP'd him with 1sec to go.
Then capped it in front of him.
Then /dance
It was an immature day :)
~sins
Then capped it in front of him.
Then /dance
It was an immature day :)
~sins
I DI'd a pally once in AV cause he was just standing and wouldn't heal then he started yelling at me so I did it again...
Just a note we were short on healers....just me (Ret at the time) a SP, and a druid...the druid wouldn't heal either...you know we lost that one...ah the memories
Just a note we were short on healers....just me (Ret at the time) a SP, and a druid...the druid wouldn't heal either...you know we lost that one...ah the memories
Selv: couldn't have put my feelings better than you did.
Sins: Just, wow ... New bid for one of the dumbest Paladin moments ever. Hell, dumbest moments ever REGARDLESS of class. I've chewed people in half for much less, think my head would've exploded on that one >.<
While we're confessing things: I have, a few times, rounded up a bunch of mobs, then took them into someone's AOE and bubbled. I save it for people who have pissed me off in the past, cause it makes me feel good :) Or if they're after MY mineral veins >.>
Sins: Just, wow ... New bid for one of the dumbest Paladin moments ever. Hell, dumbest moments ever REGARDLESS of class. I've chewed people in half for much less, think my head would've exploded on that one >.<
While we're confessing things: I have, a few times, rounded up a bunch of mobs, then took them into someone's AOE and bubbled. I save it for people who have pissed me off in the past, cause it makes me feel good :) Or if they're after MY mineral veins >.>
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