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#1 Oct 24 2007 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
hi guys here is my gear

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Rexxar&n=Menas



and here is my build

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?2340050010030000000000050320201230303105312500020000000000000000000


iam haveing trouble keeping up with my other guild mages but i have more base damage ? is it my spell rotation or my build ?? i usually spam scourch till i get 5 ticks then its a combo of AB FB and SC. Ive cleared all kara got my t4 helm just need t4 gloves and done high king mulgor.

thanks


Edited, Oct 24th 2007 3:05pm by vipper

Edited, Oct 24th 2007 3:23pm by vipper
#2 Oct 24 2007 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
just lookin for some advice any would help


thanks
#3 Oct 24 2007 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Here is the classic 10/48/3 build (the point in blazing speed can be put somewhere else if you like). I suggest you use that and this is the spell rotation to use:

Trash:
1) Fireball
2) See #1

Boss:
1) Scorch x5
2) Fireball x7
3) Combustion
4) Scorch x1
5) Goto 3


The 7 fireballs should allow you to cast the 1 scorch before the fire vulnerability debuff wears off the boss. This will vary depending on your latency.
#4 Oct 24 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
cool man thanks for the info but waht about the 2.3 changes will arcane medition be viable ?
#5 Oct 25 2007 at 12:28 AM Rating: Good
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the change to arcane mediation does put 10/48/3's undisputed status into contention a little.

What I can see is that arcane/fire builds will be more popular for mages into BT/Hyjal while 10/48/3 will remain as premier as long as you are not tackling fire-immune bosses/mobs. A 18/43 build would lack elemental precision which means a lot more +spellhit gear/gems.

The damage would or less be equal with more mana regen, even allowing the mage with said spec to dump mage armor in favour of molten armor.

I would stick with 10/48/3 for a while first, the build scales supremely at the latter stages whereas the arcane heavy builds tend to taper off at the end.

I think I need to use Combustion more... I hardly do it...
#6 Oct 25 2007 at 4:47 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I'm going to be trying my spec out (it's odd, 49/12/0) with arcane meditation and see if I can operate without a shadow priest/shaman in my group for mana gains. Once you have something like the lightning capacitor and mystic skyfire diamond, or 2 pieces of T5, the deep arcane builds do quite good damage (I especially love the 2.5 second cast of arcane missiles that are empowered). Slow is very fun for battlegrounds as well as trash mobs, and occasionally it is actually usable on a boss and makes their spells cast more slowly, but in PvP is where it really shines (you though aimed shot took a long time before?).

I'll post a thread out here after 2.3 comes out, but with the removal of the damage tax, I think that probably far outweighs the 15% mana regen buff for arcane.
#7 Oct 25 2007 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
well our guild is starting to move into the 25 man's but we do alot of kara and i love to run heroic's so is 33/28/0 a viable build for me withe the burst dammage or not. were doing gurls and if grul goes down well do the lucker. is the 10/48/3 still topps on those raids ??
#8 Oct 25 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Excellent
As it stands right now, you aren't fully invested in ignite. Also, playing with fire will help you increase your dps.

Until we see what changes occur in 2.3, I'd drop 8 points in arcane and put them elsewhere.

Your gear is good, although your dps would go way up if you got the spellfire robe and belt. X'ri's gift is a nice crit trinket from Shatar rep which could help.

Best of luck!

Edited, Oct 25th 2007 10:31am by NCspaz
#9 Oct 25 2007 at 7:21 AM Rating: Decent
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well our guild is starting to move into the 25 man's but we do alot of kara and i love to run heroic's so is 33/28/0 a viable build for me withe the burst dammage or not. were doing gurls and if grul goes down well do the lucker. is the 10/48/3 still topps on those raids ??


In these raids, 10/48/3 will destroy 33/28/0. The full arcane (or *large* arcane build) is only feasable if you have some mana help (shammy and/or shadow priest) and some good damage gear with LC & MSD. If you are raid buffed for 1100 or so, arcane should be top damage because you have almost no concerns about threat. With the length of the lurker fight, you will get off 2 evocations if you time it right.

HTH
#10 Oct 25 2007 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
OK sounds like iam going with the 10/48/3 build and ill see what it can do i picked up that trinket xiri's gift last night and ill put it on when i raid ive also got the spell hast trinket from SP so ill see how it goes and thnks for the help and the ifo ill report back my results.

Edited, Oct 25th 2007 4:54pm by vipper
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