Crappy guild warrior - Where's the Guide?!Follow

I was in an all guild group for Steamvaults last night. We have a 70 warrior that has been in the guild for a while, is an officer, and he can't tank worth ****.

I would like to know why. So I came here looking for a guide to tanking with a warrior and, gasp, under the How to Tank section it says "Coming Soon." How do you guys not have a sticky for this?!? For shame!

I played with him for the first time last night. Prot Warrior tank, Druid Healer (Who I had cleared SLabs with the night before, so he was proven.), me SPriest, Mage, Hunter. Everyone had KTM. The mage and I had to severely nerf our DPS to avoid drawing aggro. We wiped 3 times in the first room. We wiped on a bog lord. He would mark a mob for Frost Trapping, and then send this little spell to pull the group that hit every mob in the group, making it take a while for the hunter to pull a mob off the tank. (This could have been the hunter, too, not sure on this one. It seems to me one aimed shot would be enough to overcome any threat that first little bouncing spell could produce. Not sure.)

Anyway, we tried to keep our threat below his, but we could barely put out dmg. Mobs were constantly coming off him to go for the healer.

Now for why I'm here:

Any ideas what was going on here? Were we doing something wrong?

If you were only using 1 cc and had two available, would you choose sheep or frost trap? I wanted sheep, he chose frost trap.

What is a/the right opening sequence for establishing threat on a group?

Should the mage and I have been able to use our normal spell rotations? Not full nuke mind you, but a standard rotation. He was geared better than any of us and prot specced.

Also, any good links to tanking guides? I googled it, but I don't know enough about the class to know the good from the bad.

/Smack forehead. He's a @#%^ing pally. Nm. I asked him how he was specced, he said Prot, and I immediately assumed Warrior. My knowledge of tanking FTL.

Regardless, where is your Tanking Guide, Warrior Forum? Now I gotta go copy and paste this in the Pally section. :)

Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 4:14pm by Caeremonia

Bad thing is, I am leveling my Warrior for DPS and my Pally for tanking just because I have had bad experiece with Prot Tanks, the guild ones are good, just out of guild = mostly bad.

Never had a problem with a Pally tank (yet)

Killcali and Antonios- Awesome tanks :)

prot pallies ftw on tanking multiple mobs easily. i've run with one in regular slabs who was geared pretty well (Magusiren and it was fun, even in the room with 5man pulls we didn't need any cc. he would just use that spell that bounces off all the mobs and keep them all on him. i was even able to keep WW off cd (on multiple mobs!) after giving him a 2-3k threat lead. the tough thing was focus firing on mobs since he didn't really mark, but once he started marking mobs went down easily.

OP - your problem probably came from unfocused fire, as any well-geared prot pally should be able to keep enough threat on him to keep mobs off the healer. also, sheep>trap, by far. it can be reapplied more quickly and more easily than ice trap.

Having been specced prot pre-70, pallies have a huge array of threat-grabbing spells at their disposal. Did he have Improved Righeous Fury on (generates 90% more threat from holy damage) and use consecration?