So my boyfriend and I just started playing recently, and we're going to be leveling together. He's a human mage (lvl 12), and I'm a dwarf preist (lvl 15). Once he catches up, we're only going to duo with each other, since we both don't have a ton of time to play and want to make sure we stick together.
What kind of talents should we be working on? Should I go for damage with Shadow? Or since I have him with me should I balance between Shadow and Healing?
Should he do the typical (or from what I looked up, typical) little bit of Arcane and mostly Frost for his mage?
Any advice would be most appreciated. By the way, if it's important, I went to the human starting area and we worked together from there (and are still in Westfall). If you want to see where we are now, we're Thayden and Glimfeather on the Stonemaul server and should both be on wowarmory.com
Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 4:27pm by Glimfeather
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Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 4:27pm by Glimfeather
Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 4:27pm by Glimfeather
woohoo! free water for life! ... i guess you don't need spirit tap
if he goes fire, you go shadow (fire is single target dps, so you're MF will slow their approach and give Mage time to burn the mob down)
if he goes ice, you go holy (AoE)
if he goes fire, you go shadow (fire is single target dps, so you're MF will slow their approach and give Mage time to burn the mob down)
if he goes ice, you go holy (AoE)
I would say give shadow a try. You can heal if you drop out of shadow form.
The only AOE damage spell you would have as holy is holy nova, and although fun, it will burn all your mana, and isn't a spell I would want to use often.
The only AOE damage spell you would have as holy is holy nova, and although fun, it will burn all your mana, and isn't a spell I would want to use often.
It all depends on whether you two want to do instances together or just quest.
If you're just questing I suggest shadow, as you can still bubble in shadow form later on, and if he gets low on health drop out, heal and go back into S Form.
But if you want to instance go Heal/Smite build, The heal talents to help get you both into the instance and smite talents for when you 2 are questing together.
Or if you don't really care about damage, and want to let him do all the damage, go full healing spec.
If you're just questing I suggest shadow, as you can still bubble in shadow form later on, and if he gets low on health drop out, heal and go back into S Form.
But if you want to instance go Heal/Smite build, The heal talents to help get you both into the instance and smite talents for when you 2 are questing together.
Or if you don't really care about damage, and want to let him do all the damage, go full healing spec.
I'm a disc/holy(smite) priest levelling with an arcane/fire mage. Mage does 2/3rds of the damage and draws >9/10ths of the aggro. Me, I start by putting my (improved) PW:shield on him, and make sure he gets the first hit. Shielded he can keep casting uninterrupted, and with the aggro on him, so can I. I don't normally need to heal him, just keep the shields on. There is no need for me to take holy talents for the duo, its just my choice - I like healing instances, a lot. My discipline talents are great - divine spirit, improved shield & fortitude, glass cannon mages become steel cannons with a disc priest along side them (ok not quite, but you get the idea). A mix of shadow and discipline talents would probably benefit the duo best, in terms of survivability and fast levelling. That said, you have the choice to go holy without things being painfully slow at all if you like to heal.
To stick together levelling, choose an alt solo character.
To stick together levelling, choose an alt solo character.
The game is very forgiving. No matter what specs you choose, you will be able to complete virtually any quest outside an instance and have fun.
That said, the best synergy between a Priest and a Mage will probably be a Mage who kites and a Priest who burns down the mobs. That would mean a Frost Mage partnered with a Shadow Priest. The Mage pulls with his big nuke, Frostbolt, then runs from the mob while blasting it with instant spells like Fireblast. In the meantime, you put your damage over time spell Shadow Word: Pain on the mob and use Mindflay to both damage it and slow it to a crawl. If and when the mob closes in on the Mage, he roots it in place with a Frost Nova and then you both nuke it from out of its reach. You'll take down elites above your level with that basic strategy, though a string of unlucky resists might be troublesome.
You could also have great success AOE grinding, something a Frost Mage can do even better with a Power Word: Shield on him.
For multiple pulls, you'll have Sheep or Shackle. For casters, you'll have the Mage's Counterspell and the Priest's Silence. Your biggest challenge will be mobs with missile weapons...that's where your Vampiric Embrace will shine. Once you have Vampiric Touch, the two of you will be more mana-efficient and need to drink less.
Good luck!
Edited, Oct 24th 2007 11:46am by emmitsvenson
Edited, Oct 26th 2007 11:03am by emmitsvenson
That said, the best synergy between a Priest and a Mage will probably be a Mage who kites and a Priest who burns down the mobs. That would mean a Frost Mage partnered with a Shadow Priest. The Mage pulls with his big nuke, Frostbolt, then runs from the mob while blasting it with instant spells like Fireblast. In the meantime, you put your damage over time spell Shadow Word: Pain on the mob and use Mindflay to both damage it and slow it to a crawl. If and when the mob closes in on the Mage, he roots it in place with a Frost Nova and then you both nuke it from out of its reach. You'll take down elites above your level with that basic strategy, though a string of unlucky resists might be troublesome.
You could also have great success AOE grinding, something a Frost Mage can do even better with a Power Word: Shield on him.
For multiple pulls, you'll have Sheep or Shackle. For casters, you'll have the Mage's Counterspell and the Priest's Silence. Your biggest challenge will be mobs with missile weapons...that's where your Vampiric Embrace will shine. Once you have Vampiric Touch, the two of you will be more mana-efficient and need to drink less.
Good luck!
Edited, Oct 24th 2007 11:46am by emmitsvenson
Edited, Oct 26th 2007 11:03am by emmitsvenson
Thanks for all the helpful advice! We have a lot to consider! :)
One question came up -- ruinator said I could "bubble" - what is that?
One question came up -- ruinator said I could "bubble" - what is that?
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Bubble is Power Word Shield is a holy priest spell Spell to reduce damage and spell interruption.
I am Holy with a bit of discipline, I can heal like nobody's business but i can also do damage if i am soloing. Not dps like a shadow priest but enough to get the job done. I love the holy / discipline spec healing is the bomb. Shadow priest are great for dps but not generally accepted over a mage, rouge, or shammy in gruops.
I am Holy with a bit of discipline, I can heal like nobody's business but i can also do damage if i am soloing. Not dps like a shadow priest but enough to get the job done. I love the holy / discipline spec healing is the bomb. Shadow priest are great for dps but not generally accepted over a mage, rouge, or shammy in gruops.
grcarp wrote:
Shadow priest are great for dps but not generally accepted over a mage, rouge, or shammy in gruops.
Not true. Because of their utility as a mana battery, Shadowpriests are the first DPS role any raid tries to fill. They're in high demand for 5-man parties too, especially when the tank's a Pally.
PW:shield is a discipline spell, not holy, so can still be used by a priest in shadow form to protect a mage. Mages have a sort-of equivalent mana shield, but it eats up their mana for damage taken instead of health. The priest's PW:shield is typically more mana efficient. Mages have utility to protect themselves (and you) too, especially from melee attacks, where they can frost or use their teleport to help kite.
I've now totally convinced myself that shadow priests are much better for the mage/priest combo, but I won't change my disc/holy talents. At the end of the day, each of you should just choose what you want to be and find a way to work together well.
Edited, Oct 25th 2007 4:13am by Helluna
I've now totally convinced myself that shadow priests are much better for the mage/priest combo, but I won't change my disc/holy talents. At the end of the day, each of you should just choose what you want to be and find a way to work together well.
Edited, Oct 25th 2007 4:13am by Helluna
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