Sethekk Halls I'm officially teh suckFollow

Well that instance gives most tanks without fear ward alot of trouble. The only things you really can do is tremor totem from the shaman, try and spell reflect the fear (takes alot of practice) and stunning the mobs so they don't get a chance to fear. Maybe switch to zerker and pop zerker rage? Other than that, sethekk still gives me alot of embarrasing moments =(

before 2.3, only draenei and dwarf priests have fear ward, so fyi.

tremor totem is a bit difficult to use, i've run sethekk and tried to rely on it for my anti-fear and it's sort of a crapshoot. the thing is, either the mobs destroy the totem first and then fear the party, or the initial fear gets dispelled, but then either the totem wears off or it gets destroyed during the fight. fear ward makes this a lot easier, but you still have to allow yourself and the party a lot of space to run around in once feared.

the best way to deal with this is to either mark the prophet mob (that's the one that fears, iirc) to go down first or apply an easily renewable cc on it (preferably sheep. ice trap will work if the hunter is good enough to place it often enough to keep the mob out of action). the fear spell is a fast cast, probably 1-1.5s, but if you keep your finger right on the shield bash/concussive blow/pummel button and time it right, you can nip this sucker in the bud before he gets it off.

the more cc you can bring with you, the better. the good thing is the priest can sort of give you a two-for-one in sethekk, as he can fear ward you and shackle undead mobs (with mage/rogue/priest this is 3 mobs cc'd). i personally have not had good experiences with locks and seduce, the longest one i've seen a lock seduce a mob is 6 secs., then the mob pounds the succy, then the lock, then i have to go bail him out... as such, i would not rely on a lock for cc. locks do have a spell interrupt with their felpups, so if you have a rogue and a lock on the prophet mob you can tell them to keep their eyes out to interrupt the fear. however, the best way to deal with this is to bring more cc and create more space.


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Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 10:38am by fromanthebarbarian

TBH gyf, my first instance after i respec'd 8/7/46 prot was regular sethekk. i had two hunters, a resto druid and some other dps. ice trap was my only dependable form of cc. i always tanked 4 mobs and either burned the prophet down first or trapped him while we killed one or two mobs. we wiped maybe once, which was great for me being newly spec'd prot/newbs to instance/having no cc.

zerker rage is an 8 second duration and a 30 second cooldown. death wish is more reliable but then you have to spec 20 points into fury, so...

I have done Sethekk once so far and only had real problems on the last boss because he dumps aggro when he blinks away (and it's always FAR away). We had 66 Priest, 70 Rogue, 2 70 Hunters and me tanking on my 70 Warrior. Neither Hunter was great at trapping so most of the time only one was doing single traps. The Hunters were good at getting their pets on stray mobs for off-tanking until I could get to them which helped. Our main CC was the Rogue's sap and the Priest's shackle (which was resisted a bit by the higher mobs because of his low level.) Most of the time, we were able to get my main target down before the first ice trap broke and get that one down before the sap broke. We lost the Priest more than a few times along the way but he seemed more than happy just to be there at his level even with the corpse runs. We even managed to mostly survive an accidental pull with mid-battle adds with only the Priest dying so I think we had a group that was at least good at emergency survival tactics even though the CC could have been better.

When we got to the fearing mobs, things really did get messy from time to time but we managed even though I haven't even tried to figure the stance-dancing fear break move. I think we were trying to sap the fearing mobs as that CC seemed to be holding more consistently than the ice traps. The undead mobs drop a Mind-Control totem which is also very annoying so saving those for last usually helped a lot.

Our only real problem in the whole run was the last boss who wiped us 2 4/5 times. The Rogue managed to barely finish him off on our third try after everyone else had died and we all cheered. I need a lot more practice on that fight as the Boss dumps aggro when he blinks and I end up chasing after to get aggro back just in time to have to run away again to try to avoid the AOE (which usually got me). I think I also kept ending up out of the Priest's Line-of-Sight when I'd go behind the pillers. We were starting to get the coordination down so I think it wouldn't have taken too many more tries if the Rogue hadn't managed to kill him.

I have to say though, I do love CC even if it means my rage generation isn't optimal.

I'm not an uber-tank by any stretch of the immagination, but I have a few ideas that you give a shot, they work for me in the limited encounters my warrior faces with the chance of fear.

1) at the initial pull or somewhere in the middle, flip to zerker and use the zerker rage (think thats the name of it) its only 5 seconds or so of fear immunity but every little bit helps.

2) If you are a blacksmith and you destroyed your gleaming mithril insignia, then you deserve a little fear from time to time. The armor increase from that trinket is minor at best but the fear immunity from it is pretty awesome.

3) get the entry level pvp trinket and equip it before a pull during which you think there is a chance of fear.


As I said, my warrior is only lvl 55 and I have no where near your experience tanking, just a few things that I have found handy.

OMG... What!!! There's a trinkey that immunes you to fear? Is it a quest? I'm Blacksmithing... Please link or tell me the quest name?


Oh and I forgot... I can always try to Concus blow the Prophet and hope we burn him down in time. I was a total nOOb last night, my 1st run with Warrior, and only ran it once with my Hunter.

Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 2:43pm by GYFFORD

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10418&locale=enUS;source=live

Warlock with no Succubus in their upper 60s = fail. Boot them immediately imo.

You contradicted yourself there.

You said you had 2 hunters, but then you said you had no CC ;)

Sorry, it bugs me just a little ;P

Oh and Tremor Totem is a godsend, next time yourwith that Shammy ask him something:

If Tremor Totem doesn't work, then why is it used in Karazhan at Nightbane?

As stated before it pulses every 5 seconds and has to be laid on the Tank in order to have max effectiveness in instances.


Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 5:18pm by Caldone

GYFFORD:

the problem isn't you. I read your post. Fear can cause aggro to go all over the place. The problem was that ridiculous Shaman who wouldn't use his tremor totem.

You are talking about the high end trinket that adds resilience and dispells movement imparing effects, I am talking about the 2800 honor basic model trinket that just dispells movement imparing effects.

I get a little anxious sometimes with cooldowns myself, but honestly, 5 minutes goes by faster than most people think.

My warrior's current trinket of choice is the diamond flask from the warrior quest chain in ST. It has a 6 minute cooldown but I seem to use it constantly, it always seems to be up when I need it and gaining 75 STR for one minute every 6 minutes is pure, unfiltered win.