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#1 Oct 22 2007 at 4:00 AM Rating: Default
Finally at lvl 58 I can safely enter BRD. Most of you might say that i should be heading OL, forget about Azeroth, and stuff like that. Well, NO. I am, with the help of some close friends, trying to defeat all the instances in Azeroth. And now I've come to this: BRD.


The 1st thing that came to my mind was that I will very often find myself in PUGs. And scarred me a lot, but what can I do? Just hope I won't meet any NINJA, casters meleeing or guys who just go blindly ahead, without even reading the chat, where a priest had been yelling for 15 minutes: MANA BREAK!!!

Btw, I want to apologize right now if I can't remember names and locations precisely.

So..I am with this 57 Holy priest, friend of mine, both LFG BRD. This happens at 9.15 PM, sever time.we wait, some join, we find out they haven't been in BRD not even once(instant kick, no offence). Still waiting, and of course that strange feeling occurs. You know, the one when you wait too much and start thinking IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TONIGHT. But we decide to keep waiting.

AFter half an hour our savior comes :D. Exactly what I wanted, a FROST MAGE( Bye bye LYCEUM). This guy is a good friend of BGs with me, so I know the way he plays and also I know that he is good at CC. He is sure to bring a tank, prot warrior, also a cool gamer, good at tanking mainly. I find after 1 bloody hour a rogue, subtlety.

So the party is complete: 58 feral dr00d, 57 Holy priest, 59 Frost mage, 60 prot warrior and a 60 subtlety rogue

We finally enter BRD. Start planning, sharing quests, decide which way to go, who has the key, stuff like that. We clear the first room, nice and easy. Enter the arena, finish that one a bit hard, because of those F**** bats, with silence. But we complete that one too.

We keep clearing the instance, small bosses or not, all the way to the LYCEUM.


Here is where my problem is. We talk for about 15 minutes who where when how. So me and the rogue stealth and start looking for those flame keepers. We mark them, and pray the lord that the mage knows what to do. Amazingly, he leads us through mobs like a knife through butter. we head straight for the braziers, and there we stand and fight until a dwarf with the torch comes near. Kill him too, same with the other brazier, and we finish lyceum.

And all of a sudden we find ourselves standing there and watching at the doors who are NOT OPENED! Again we revalue what have we done, good or wrong alike. And no one knows what to do...

Does any of you have any idea what on earth has gone sooo wrong?!
#2 Oct 22 2007 at 4:57 AM Rating: Good
Ironic that you would kick people who have never been in BRD and then have to come here to ask a question about it.
#3 Oct 22 2007 at 5:02 AM Rating: Default
Hey, it's my decision which people I accept into my party. It is my right. And I don't want to wipe 3 times before reaching Ribbly because the other guys don't know what to do and what not to. I just want to finish this instance. And this thread is about what happened inside the Lyceum.
#4 Oct 22 2007 at 5:05 AM Rating: Good
Your 'right' is not in question here (though your usage of the word may be). I simply observed the irony in your situation.
#5 Oct 22 2007 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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Who looted the torches from the Flame Keepers, and did you actually remember to use them?
#6 Oct 23 2007 at 3:06 AM Rating: Default
I looted both, and of course I used them!
It may be a small glitch... Who knows what on earth really happened. Anyway, never happened since then.
#7 Oct 23 2007 at 4:34 AM Rating: Good
I believe the point is that no one could run any instance if no one wanted people in their group that hadn't run it.

If I run into people like you, I'll LIE about running it and show you my skill and tell you later how wrong you are.
#8 Oct 23 2007 at 4:42 AM Rating: Default
At least,if you decide to lie, and show me that I'm wrong, then I will apologize and admit that you DO know how to play your class properly. My point is that I am a bit hesitating in joining PUGs, that's why I often choose pre-made groups.
BUT THIS THREAD wasn't about me, but about that stupid glitch inside Lyceum...
Oh well...keep on flaming me. It's the least you can do with ease. /sigh
#9 Oct 23 2007 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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Yea, it could just be a glitch. Like the one in Blood Furnace where all the orcs aggro through the gates... Hate that o.0

I must agree with Norellicus though. Kicking someone just because they havent run the instance before is (for lack of better terms) lame. Not flaming you its just... odd. I mean we I remember having a druid tank that never ran or even heard of Hellfire Citadel - Ramparts. We told him how to tank the flying dragon thingy and he pulled it off perfectly.
#10 Oct 23 2007 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
You kicked people because they had never run the instance before? My god... that's pathetic. You should be ashamed.
#11 Oct 27 2007 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
"You kicked people because they had never run the instance before? My god... that's pathetic. You should be ashamed."

Yeah, you should be ashamed because you actually wanted to run the instance without having to constantly teach others how. Seriously, whats with all the bogus morals in WoW these days...
#12 Oct 27 2007 at 8:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Bogus moral? Dude, everyone was a newbie for some time and everyone has had a first run of each instance. If you kick them because they're inexperienced you're contributing to the problem rather than helping them.

It's not like you have to hold them by the hand either. Mobs are mobs. Just kill them and move on. You only have to let the tank (if he's one of the new guys) know about troublesome encounters. The rest will be cake if he's good at his class, and this has nothing to do with having done the instance before.

Yeah, you should be ashamed. It is entirely selfish to kick people because they don't know the instance. Sure, we've all left some retarded groups in the past because they were just too dumb, but not giving them a chance is not exactly a sign of goodwill...
#13 Oct 29 2007 at 3:53 AM Rating: Default
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58 feral dr00d, 57 Holy priest, 59 Frost mage, 60 prot warrior and a 60 subtlety rogue


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. He is sure to bring a tank, prot warrior, also a cool gamer, good at tanking mainly. I find after 1 bloody hour a rogue, subtlety.


Why couldn't you tank?
#14 Oct 29 2007 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
People need to get off their high horses. While I would happily take someone who hadn't been before, the tone of some of the responses is a bit over the top.

You would think the guy ninja'd something or a similar offense. This is usually a very friendly and useful forum and this is one of the few threads I have seen where someone has come with a legitimate question and has basically been flamed.

Lets not head down that path guys - I like these forums as they are now - a good community.
#15 Oct 29 2007 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Mhm, sensible enough.
My apologies. =/
#16 Oct 30 2007 at 2:14 AM Rating: Good
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Legitimate question? In this particular context, I think not.

I agree with the flaming. I don't see why this behavior should be encouraged by helping him. He deserves the same treatment he gave to the guy he kicked for not knowing the instance. Get out.

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#17 Oct 30 2007 at 4:40 AM Rating: Good
Sadly enough you could have saved yourself allot of grief by just asking the question without the lengthly discourse about waiting for people in your friends list to get online. again your actions put you into the 'I know more than you so I'll play my way types of people' who only ask when they hit a wall. perhaps you know better than the others and god knows there are allot of bad players out there. However noone will ever know how many good players you alienated though your actions.

ps. end of the day it's probabally a bug you encountered and yes you probabally did it correctly.
#18 Oct 30 2007 at 5:07 AM Rating: Good
RareBeast wrote:
People need to get off their high horses. While I would happily take someone who hadn't been before, the tone of some of the responses is a bit over the top.

You would think the guy ninja'd something or a similar offense. This is usually a very friendly and useful forum and this is one of the few threads I have seen where someone has come with a legitimate question and has basically been flamed.

Lets not head down that path guys - I like these forums as they are now - a good community.


It's boorish to shoot people down because they've never been in the instance, and this behavior only serves to perpetuate the very thing that drove him to boot them in the first place.

What's more, I'm sure there are plenty of occasions where such actions provoke someone to just skip instancing entirely, which leaves them severely ill-prepared for Lv70 content (and outland in general). BRD is a significant turning point in learning how to group (especially before you arrive at Outland and are greeted by ramparts, which is harder still), and to kick people before you've even given them a chance to prove themselves is ridiculous.
#19 Oct 30 2007 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
i know you asked a fair queston, but still kicking some one that never ran the place before is just stupid if every one had that mentality instence will never get done, plus how would you feel if it was your first run and someone did that to you? if i was was leader of the group and some one ask me to kick some one coz it was there 1st run the guy that asked will be out before he knows what hit him.
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