Does no one do a demon lock?Follow

I've been looking for a good build to make a demon lock for pure PvE but I cant seem to find one. Has this tree just become unusable? Was really hoping to get up to the fellguard guy. If anyone has some advice, or can show me a good link to skill, I would be super greatfull.

BTW my main partner (wife) is a mage, big part of why I want to have a big pet tank. (or will I be to weak to solo when not with her if I use this tree?)

Mesmo, demon/felg is a very powerful pve build. Too weak? No.

Lots of us use it. Some of us aren't willing to admit it - cuz we get called a "felnoob" for reasons I still don't fully get (well, I get them - just feel I don't deserve it).

You do have to learn to play a Felg to get good use out of him. Take a look at the links provided by the other person, and see if that helps you.

You do need Mana Feed, and you wanna get every talent that protects and buffs him. How far you go into mana feed is the only question - 1/3 works for some - many take 2/3 - some go 3/3 (I like 3/3).

Felg holds agro very well and does silly-good damage IF you feed him mana. That means you need to tap a lot - so you will likely adopt a "drain hunter" style of play (see sticky). GL

I don't get it either. I prefer the term "noobguard"

Grrrr, be nice.



Cos 2 out of 3 players rolling locks have seen "big baddass demon" and want them. Asap. At level 30 if possible.
And all players that want something asap lack the patience to learn something about that something too.
Therefore they usually get felguard at 50, they put pts in imp enslave and imp VW, they never take trouble to actually learn how to manage felguard.

I call them 60 pts demo btw. Believe it or not I have seen too many of such kind.

you did not understand him.... he said .. so he gave an example of a good pvp buid with which u can farm using the VW.... try to understand a post before you flame pls...

Edited, Oct 23rd 2007 2:23pm by Tehnomage

Yeah you are right, took me so long to decipher the first part I completely missed the point of last part.

Maybe I suck but at 56 I tried Felguard to 58 and I just couldn't get it together, I seemed more routine to just DotX3 and just drain tank seems faster also.. and when your getting ganked why fight the guard when you can just kill the weak clothie without iHoT

I wish he would be nice, too. He knows a lot about the class, but often is not very nice about it.

"You catch more bees with honey" - true (even for warlocks), and if he ever learns it, he'll find his RL situation will be much better.

Well, I've learned that a lot of people (myself at times, of course) are not very "self aware." Further, some people have issues like Asperger's Syndrome, where rudeness is ... well, they're just not aware of what they're doing.

Anyway, we can always hope.

I started the Felg build at 60 and LOVED it. It just required some rethinking as to how to play - and I had to have the right talents. People used to say the Felg build was powerful up til 66 or 67, then went downhill - the Felg died too often, you were healing it every fight - couldn't tank lvl 70 mobs, blah blah blah.

I don't know what those guys were doing wrong - probably didn't have Mana Feed, didn't have some of the defensive talents that protect the pet. And they probably had low sta. The Felg build likes high stam - I recommend several green outlands "of sta" that you can get cheap off the AH - cuz high sta scales to your pet - and helps you drain tank like a ... well, like a demon!

You just tap yourself for mana, and you need a big mana pool cuz you need to tap to keep your felg going, anyway. Well, just give it a try. You'll either like it or you won't.

I've tried other builds, but I still love the Felg. Great for farming, I do okay with it in pvp (tho it's not the best build for many pvp situation, sl sl seems to be best arean build, e.g.). But I farm a lot. I do 5-man raids - and the Felg is an excellent off tank. If my group wants me to seduce - or if we pull back and fear - of course I can do that too.

As someone else pointed out, when you go demon - don't just do the Felg. Try the other pets - and learn what to do when with them. Demon was a strong build, actually, before the Felg. A Felnoob is someone who ignores the other strengths of the build and just does pet attack, dot dot dot. Anyway, good luck with this.

And to "you know who" - honestly, not meaning to trash you or to attack you - you're smart, you know things - you're analytical - I'd have to guess in RL you're an engineering student or a computer programmer. But as the years go by, if you treat others around you the way you treat us in here - yeah, you'll have a core group of flatterers who are intimidated by you. Yeah, you'll have a few peers you respect who won't mind your rudeness. But you'll find you aren't getting what you want in life - promotions will pass you by -- and go to less competent but nicer people. You'll find yourself not invited, not included, being left out. Diplomacy is THE prime skill in life. Don't let this sneak up on you and gank you. Hope this helps, and best of luck.



Edited, Oct 25th 2007 3:28pm by IponemaGirl

Roughly translated as "Go f*ck yourself until you can be nice."

(I am so kidding)

So, Iponema, Pet Attack, DoT, DoT, DoT isn't the way forward? Oh, fook. It's what I do! Tell me (and I'm serious), what SHOULD I be doing? For, for example, farming, quersting and 5-mans?

When / if I go raiding I'm gonna respec as...oh, I have no idea....but Destro or Aff. I really don't think being Demo is any use in raids. It JUST pans out for 5-mans, but on bosses or groups larger than 4, it's a waste of time (Seduction aside, but I just can't make that work for me).

Petattack, SB SB...... 3 sec stun gives me time to cast one and distance gives me chance to cast the second one. If mob isnt dead yet (rarely) then Shadowburn. LT, move on.
That is my farming. Not very mana efficient but fast.

If I have competition then I cast Immo at the same time I sic pet, just to make sure the loot is mine.

If I am lazy to move around I sic pet to pick up some far away mob and call him back, SB, SB soon it gets in range.

Trash that doesnt go down in 2 SBs I might CoS or Corr, CoD on anything that will take more than min to kill, CoA for something that takes bit less.

I sac succubus in fights I dont feel like siccing-pulling falguard, I pull imp when I want less threat (more SB spam).
And thats basically it, boring as hell imo :p
Yeah, I should respec to destro...

Dont tell me you are trashing demo now ;)