Night Elf RoguesFollow

It's not the race that matters, its the player.



(And if you ask what race has the best racials, it doesn't matter.)

Gnome is the only viable race as a rogue in PvP on alliance, human for PvE.

Undead for PvP on horde, orc for PvE.

Dwarfs are one of the better Alliance races in pvp. Stoneform gives immunity to bleed & poison effects. So it is very useful against things like Hunter's Serpent sting, rogue poisons/rupture/garrote, Warrior's rend/deep wounds. Stoneform can also be used to remove a rogue's blind move. Although this is soon to change once PTR patch goes live since Blind is going to become a physical debuff rather than a Poison.

In PvE the fact it clears diseases is amazingly useful as a rogue for clearing debuffs that prevent you from re-stealthing. Like the 5 minute long DoT poison from the Undead in Sorrow Hill... It will also grant you an 8 second immunity to bleed/poison/disease effects so they can't be re-applied as quickly.

Personally I'm a human rogue, perception makes dueling other rogues or druids in cat form all too easy. Night Elves have got shadowmeld. It is a pretty useful pvp/pve tool if you use it wisely. For example if you have to run away from a fight you can go and hide behind a pillar/tree (whatever) eat, then immediately shadowmeld rather than having to wait for stealth to come off cooldown. It isn't quite as terrible as people make it out to be. I can think of countless times I wish I had it (and also countless times I wish I had Stoneform/Will of the forsaken/Escape Artist e.t.c.)

Ultimately go with whatever you don't mind staring at for the next 70, soon to be 80 levels.

I guess I should have added: If i see a night elf rogue in a BG, to hell with the flag.

don't night elves technically have the best PvE racials since shadowform passively increases stealth lvl and NElfs have the most agility and an extra 1% dodge?

Or has something about this changed and I missed it?

Edited, Oct 21st 2007 10:35am by Nocthil

Didnt find troll come up anywhere
/sad

I have a Night elf rogue. 50% of the time in BG I whipe the floor with undead rogues. The other 50% of the time, undead rogues whipe the floor with me. Race doesn't matter. It's all about skill, timing, and strategy.

In PvE, I was questing with an undead rogue same level the other day (Damn you Blizz for no cross-faction communication, thank god for vent), and both of us were pretty well balanced.

So to be blunt: If you want to be good at PvP, then master your class, not your race.

Maybe you should look up the word viable in a dictionary. All races are viable.

In this context viable means "to not suck".

As for your rather insulting post, lets look at the dictionary, shall we?



Not quite what we are looking for, lets look further.



A reasonable chance of succeeding? Good lord, could that be just what Theo said? EXACTLY what he was talking about? Lets look.



Well I'll be, thats what he was saying!

Just because you can make a rogue of a race doesn't mean they won't suck.

Gnomes are the most viable race for rogues alliance side. Now feel free to go pick nits elsewhere.

Mentalfrog, your facts only prove what we already know. Their are more NE rogues out there than other races. They are listed in the top group of rogues due to the fact that statistically they have a greater chance of being there.

So what's your point?

I wasn't talking to you. And Theo stated they were the only viable race. My point is every race if viable.

viable:
1. Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2. Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.
3. Capable of success or continuing effectiveness;

I have yet to be shown that non-gnomes aren't viable. Doesn't matter if there are more NE's out there if gnomes were the only viable pvp race they would dominate. Would they not?

Lets take a look at this like rational human beings.

Does race have a HUGE impact on PvP preformance?
Simply put, no. Gear and spec are massively more important.

Are some races better (more viable)?
Hell Yes.

Thats it, I close the book on this thread.