Combat Expertise and PoJ?Follow

I copied my Tankadin over to the PTR today. Combat Expertise is sweet. It is a must have. Although Im beginning to feel that the new PoJ is gonna be useless to tanks. It takes 3 points from the the already bloated Prot tree, and adds a mediocre increase to spell avoidance.

I was thinking about dropping Anticipation, but thats 20 defense skill I'd be loosing. That's what? 44 defense rating that I would have to add to my gear.

What about Reckoning? Until I'm passively uncrusable, that isn't going to happen. It might be hit or miss. When it kicks, it adds a nice buff to your threat. It leaves room for mistakes, it does what its supposed to do.

Guardians Favor? That's saved the lives of more mages than I could ever count. 3 minute cooldown is every other fight. Although this is the only place I would drop, but for 3% spell avoidance? I don't think so.

I already choose to leave out Improved Judgements. With my current build, the increase in threat has little effect when I will OOM after 4 judgements. I usually tank trash with SoW for longevity. Judging that every 8 seconds is a waste.

Anticipation should never be dropped, the itemization that you would need to cover that defense loss will severely hurt your avoidance.

You keep the judgements for boss fights where mana isn't as much of an issue, and repeatedly judging wisdom would obviously be insane, however repeatedly judging SoV or SoR on boss fights can really increase your threat.


Reckoning is my choice to drop, it does not scale well with armor. As total avoidance (dodge/miss/parry) increase, this talent's effectiveness decreases. In terms of threat it is really more of a luxury than anything, and necessities (like 10% increase in Stamina and 1.25% chance not to get parried) are better than luxuries.

I will probably grab PoJ, for a couple reasons, you probably wont notice it kicking in, because it will just show up as another resist or a miss or whatever, however it providing an occasional full avoidance of a spell I think is worth it over say Guardian's Favor. If you need to cast it on that many mages (one every 3 minutes), you need to talk to them or reevaluate your tanking strategy.