rogue guide from Cloze in nihilum :: Free Realms

#1 Oct 19 2007 at 1:17 AM Rating: Default

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He linked this guild for swords:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboxZMIVbbVzxMGot

Now I'm confused with a few things and would like some help here. No of these are huge but I'm curious what others think.

I don't see a use for Eviscerate and 3 points in vile poisons seams like it would add more dps....Of course i'm often wrong.

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I would probably recommend using Rupture until you have a decent amount of attack power & crit, then you can play around with some Eviscerates

I've never heard of this anywhere...at what point does enviscerate become the finisher again? "decent" is what?

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forget about the 40 Attack Power food.

That was helpful info. I was using +26 ap over +15 agi on gloves for a long time too...

Does anyone use thistle tea/haste potions? It seams like I never know when i'm going to

need a heal pot, even with two soulstones I don't want to be praying for cd to hurry up. I mean sometimes healers are just busy. It might be something to check into to up my dps.

It was very well put together, and scratched the surface of a lot of things.
All around I wasn't too impressed. I'm completely sure he is a great rogue, I was just looking for something more in depth.

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 5:54am by crazyhtown

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#2 Oct 19 2007 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent

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Got a link to the guide?

As for the AP food, at lower gear levels, it provides better DPS than the agility food does.

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#3 Oct 19 2007 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent

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http://nihilum.wazap.com/en/article/15,clozes_rogue_guide/

dragonspine listed 4th best..........

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#4 Oct 19 2007 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good

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Was it supposed to be some highly anticipated guide or something?

Very basic stuff that can really be summed up in a couple sentences. And im surprised to hear him say to use deadly on OH without a shaman. Ive always used deadly MH and instants OH since once you get your 5 stacks of deadly up you are wasting a lot of procs with your super fast OH.

/shrug.

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#5 Oct 19 2007 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent

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KTurner wrote:

Was it supposed to be some highly anticipated guide or something?

Very basic stuff that can really be summed up in a couple sentences. And im surprised to hear him say to use deadly on OH without a shaman. Ive always used deadly MH and instants OH since once you get your 5 stacks of deadly up you are wasting a lot of procs with your super fast OH.

/shrug.

Yea...

I honestly don't see how MH instant is better, especially in BT where haste is abundant and your OH is at a constant state of .8-1.0

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#6 Oct 19 2007 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent

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crazyhtown wrote:

http://nihilum.wazap.com/en/article/15,clozes_rogue_guide/

dragonspine listed 4th best..........

I don't know that I'd put DST on top necessarily (Warp-Spring Coil and Madness of the Betrayer look awfully good together), but the fact that he rates Tsunami Talisman above it is a bit confusing.

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Very basic stuff that can really be summed up in a couple sentences. And im surprised to hear him say to use deadly on OH without a shaman. Ive always used deadly MH and instants OH since once you get your 5 stacks of deadly up you are wasting a lot of procs with your super fast OH.

On the other hand you will proc Instant from SS if it's on the MH, so I can see where he's coming from. Either way, get a Shaman.

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#8 Oct 19 2007 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent

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Very basic stuff that can really be summed up in a couple sentences. And im surprised to hear him say to use deadly on OH without a shaman. Ive always used deadly MH and instants OH since once you get your 5 stacks of deadly up you are wasting a lot of procs with your super fast OH.

On the other hand you will proc Instant from SS if it's on the MH, so I can see where he's coming from. Either way, get a Shaman.

Even including specials my OH hits more than my MH.

Is this because I am maces and get that additional haste proc? Maybe. But that's why I brought up the haste itemization currently in end game.

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#9 Oct 19 2007 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent

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I've seen some math that looks reliable on EJ that shows it really isn't a big advantage but DP/IP is slightly higher than IP/DP with talon/arena offhand combo...

Shaman who drops WF is the best, but my guild runs 2-3 melee and like ton of range so they always drop other totems and it makes me a sad panda.

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#10 Oct 19 2007 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent

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awesome, so Im doing it "right". I have always SS > slice and dice > ssx2 >> slice and dice >> 5 rupture >> repeat.

on bosses I never really evis unless its like 2% and I have AR up. Also I was really stoked that they shared my view to offhand deadly poison and mh instant. And that is the EXACT build I have. (combat swords)

3 points in evis justified by evis on trash.

Edited, Oct 19th 2007 9:50pm by odnet

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