The title pretty much says it all.
I find that when dealing with most groups of mobs that require AoE (i.e. the dancer groups before Moroes in KZ) I inevitably pull aggro and die very quickly. Even if I wait 10 or so seconds and try to swoop in with multiple seeds for the kill, if everything doesn't die I end up having to drain tank and pray for life as everyone else beats the remainder down. If I use Rain of Fire somewhat earlier my damage output dies and I still pull aggro often.
Is there a better way to do this?
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Laws of SoC basically state if you don't kill everything with those seeds, they're coming after you no matter what. It just does WAY too much burst damage. Sometimes the slow and steady RoF is the best way, depends on group makeup.
wait a little bit longer before aoeing / use rain of fire instead / get a paladin tank for aoe groups. of of these will mean you'll live through aoe groups. the last one being the best as everyone will live through it ^^
oh. when SoCing. first SoC goes onto a mob nobody is attacking. same for 2nd and hopefully third. by that time the first is likely to be about to explode and so you can just Soc something someone is attacking. this way you get alot of burst off and hopefully kill most before they get a chance to come for you
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if you have shadowfury then you can aoe alot more effectively as you can 'activate' all of the soc's at the same time.
Edited, Oct 19th 2007 7:12am by Jenovaomega
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if you have shadowfury then you can aoe alot more effectively as you can 'activate' all of the soc's at the same time.
Edited, Oct 19th 2007 7:12am by Jenovaomega
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On those pulls you should be seeing all 3 of your healers names scrolling up your screen in green. If you die it is their fault espcially if you are the only AOEer in the run.
Jen wrote:
oh. when SoCing. first SoC goes onto a mob nobody is attacking. same for 2nd and hopefully third. by that time the first is likely to be about to explode and so you can just Soc something someone is attacking. this way you get alot of burst off and hopefully kill most before they get a chance to come for you
Golden, that is the way to do it. A lot of people will SoC the main tank's target first, and before you even get the 2nd SoC off, the first one has exploded.
A hunter's slowing trap also works very well.
Having a couple of warlocks and a couple of mages means SoC supreme...two frost novas and seeds exploding non-stop along with the arcane explosions is just beautiful.
Man, I feel like killing Morogrim now hehe
Man, I feel like killing Morogrim now hehe
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On those pulls you should be seeing all 3 of your healers names scrolling up your screen in green. If you die it is their fault espcially if you are the only AOEer in the run.
That.
Shields, PoM's, tons of flash heals. We've got the 3 healers plus me out of shadowform healing. I take the person who seems to draw aggro the fastest and start preemptively flash healing them, ready to switch over to someone else if they start getting hit a lot. We usually have the aggro split - it's never all on one person but a few on one, a few on another, and a few on a third, except about once every run one of the mages decides to AE before the tank even gets a thunderclap off.
Frost trap as well, that's really helpful. We often have a doomkin throwing out Hurricane as well; the attack slow on that is great.
get a paladin tank. sorts out allll of the issues :)
Tell your healers to heal/shield/everything you, since you will be needing it. Even with all of that.. it's iffy. I consider my guild's healers to be competent, but I still go down hard once or twice per run. Death on AoE packs is an inevitability I think..
Or yeah. Pally tank ftw.
Edited, Oct 21st 2007 1:45pm by Banatu
Or yeah. Pally tank ftw.
Edited, Oct 21st 2007 1:45pm by Banatu
Banatu wrote:
Death on AoE packs is an inevitability I think..
No, not if you do it properly.
And by that I mean that you don't do it all by yourself.
The mobs need to be gathered, frozen into place (perhaps twice) and slowed.
And you don't SoC alone...
Here are a couple of films with some AOE made by a paladin in my guild.
Morogirm
I wasn't present during this takedown.
You don't see the first two packs since he's not looking at them but tbh the first few aren't the best examples anyway lol.
Solarian
This is when she dropped a Void Star Talisman for me :)
As others have said, Paladin tank. Or at least a paladin in the group somewhere. You NEED the Salvation buff.
Pally pulls with avenger shield, you cast curse of shadow on everything.. wait a few seconds, then cast SoC on them all, starting with the least damaged targets.
Shadowfury if you have it, rain of fire if you don't.
You have almost no chance of pulling aggro, and even if you do, the pally can either BoP you, or use righteous fury.
Pally pulls with avenger shield, you cast curse of shadow on everything.. wait a few seconds, then cast SoC on them all, starting with the least damaged targets.
Shadowfury if you have it, rain of fire if you don't.
You have almost no chance of pulling aggro, and even if you do, the pally can either BoP you, or use righteous fury.
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