Why do people fight you over threat?Follow

K i was running ulda as the tank and this warrior kept going all out to take mobs off me, prob normal for them but we'd establised who was the tank. Anyway i'm just curious why they were so die hard to take the threat, while using a 2h? Taunt has the 3 little marks above mobs heads right? I saw that every pull.

I entirely agree. Had the same experience with both my Druid and Pally. They wanna DPS and use a two-hander, but they still think they're the best at tanking. And even with a sword and board he'd try to do Heroic Strike to keep aggro or whatever...

But I digress. The other thing I wanted to mention is: Were you with a Hunter? Many, many, many Hunters will forget, or simply won't care, and leave their pet's "taunt" skill at auto so the pet will keep trying to steal aggro. And yes, it has the same taunting animation with the 3 little sparks.

I hate bullsh*t like that, it really makes me mad when someone tries to pull **** off me in an attempt to make a point. This only happened once that I can think of in ramparts with a Hunter, who kept the taunt on his pet even after I told him to take it off, just repeatedly asking why and being thick-skulled about it. Then while we were fighting the dragon, the hunters pet taunted and the dragon wiped the group, I was pissed and we were all yelling at him. "THAT's why!" After that he stopped doing it and we killed him on the second try.

That's odd, in my groups the healer runs the show. They're standing back from the battle and actually have the best sense of who's getting hit, with what, and why. If they do the planning and marking, they also have a better sense of who they need to heal how much and when. And of course, because I'm the healer. :)

Actually anyone who keeps their head in the game and in the fight can run the show. As long as everyone actually follows the plan, it rarely matters a whole lot what the plan actually is. I've seen far more failures because people won't do what they're expected to than because there was an unworkable plan in place. And if everybody gives their best shot at following a plan and it fails, it's a lot easier to figure out something else, than trying to convince somebody that the plan actually would have worked if they'd just ___ (target the right mob, control the dps, CC the right target, or whatever you want to stick in the blank).

No hunter in the group.

Funny, I just had this problem last night getting the Holy Water for my Epic Mount quest.

Me, Healer(58), Shaman(58), and lvl 70 mage. We are going in to kick Timmy's butt and the Shaman wants to fight for agro. 2nd wipe and he's asking why we be dying and why healer isn't doing his job... (i hate it when people pick on the heals!).

So mage and I are saying over and over again that Timmy hits hard. I'm getting hit for 1k per hit and only have 4200 life! Healer is doing job really well keeping me alive for as long as he is and if shaman would stop trying to upstage me as a tank and heal while mage dps we would pull through this fine.
Third time was a charm for him and the plan of course worked. We ran the rest of the instance that way and rocked it out zoom zoom zoom... though I can't tell you how many times I've just let the dorks die. There is no room for heros in groups. It's a team effort. I take no glory in tanking, and bow to the healer!!! In my chat window it's all about the healer! Funny though, you know you find a good healer when in his chat window it's all about the tank keeping agro while he heals!!!

A good catcher and pitcher can run the game but a good field can cover any mistakes they make. oddly enough I'm sometimes lead even though I'm rogue. but no complains from anyone else in the group except sometimes the tank when he really wants to mark. I sometimes miss the hunter who can act like the coach with his 1sec spell mark which easily replaces the 2 second popping a skull on the guy you wanna kill.

nice analogy...GO CUBS!

It is the reality and i run a tight ship when i tank. My biggest problems are hunter/warlock pets.

Though i did have a pretty amusing run in with a ret pally when i was running my 38 warrior through SM.

This guy is running around with a corpsemaker, a respectable weapon for the level until he gets his bonerbiter im sure. I notice he has righteous fury up. I ask him to take it off, he doesnt. He goes on and on about how it increases his damage and he wasnt causing any problems, even though he kept judging fresh mobs and pulling hate off me resulting in uneeded stress.

I told him off with the RF or i was out of the group. Needless to say everyone else in the group got on his case and he finally turned it off.

Herods helm dropped, he passed >_>... I checked his gear and it was almost all WHITE CRAFTED GEAR with no stats. i was totally amazed at how ******* retarded this guy had to have been.

Yeah,that's actually a really good comparison to PUG's with the baseball theory. Never thought of it like that, but it makes sense.

Edited, Oct 17th 2007 2:00pm by EnrictheSlayer

Yeah it's pretty sad when a player is 70 and doesn't know how to play his class.

I had a rather odd run in with a couple people a couple months ago that I guess I will share. (We are getting rather OT, but meh)

I was in an SV party and there were 2 dps which were questionable. A hunter in blues/greens and an Elemental Shaman in raid epics. The hunter said the Shaman was his friend and was helping him in the instance, I'm thinking **************** cause I used to fear epicced out dpsers that I would disappoint them with my threat generation (I don't really fear that anymore).

Anyway, the shaman is doing chain lightning off the bat (I believe this was before I specced for AS, so my beginning threat was almost nothing) and the hunter is putting his trap right in the way of my pulls, so that the "Skull" enemy almost always was trapped. I actually had to teach him how to trap, when I've never levelled a Hunter past 25.

We get to the first boss, the Ele shaman dies from standing in the storm. BTW the Shaman is saying nothing or next to nothing the entire time, even when we are talking directly to him.

We get to the final boss and can't beat him, neither the shaman or the hunter were focusing on the tanks, the Shaman was going OOM like 30 seconds into the fight, and it was just horrible. The Shaman was just making noob mistakes left and right.

I believe that the Hunter was probably buying the Shaman from some company to follow him around and help him quest and stuff. The company might have bought the Shaman from someone else, which would explain the epic gear yet noobish behavior. The Hunter probably bought his account too just from watching his gamestyle as well, a little better than the Shaman, but still just awful.

If you're a warrior specced prot, you'll generate a lot less threat without shield slam available.

It maybe warriors that intend to believe they are supposed to tank dispite the spec they have, but last night i actually came across a new thing i hadn't experienced before. A paladin, carrying a 2h, obviously ret because of things like vindication and repetence (sp?) refused to take of his Right.Fury and allow me a full prot specced, shield carrying, avanger and holy shield using paladin to tank. The question from me 'who is tanking' got answered with 'I am' by him and for some reason he could not answer the question how he was gonna keep agro on more than 1 mob and obviously he didnt. Then i offered my services and asked wouldnt it be better to have me tank, seeying as im build for it... and he starts a whole attitude thing 'Why?, why should you tank, why do you have to tank, let some1 else tank..'.

When he started accusing me of being a holy paladin because he felt that the consecration i was doing was actually holy shock i left the party.