Alright, I've tried scouring the internet, but to no real avail thus, I'm posting. The guides here and on other sites have been helpful, but I can't make heads or tails of them half the time, leaving me scratching my head and making no real progress because of it. In essence, either I have a major malfunction, or I'm going to need a basic breakdown (Am I correct in thinking that I should be shooting for +sta +spirit gear? I'm used to playing my warlock so its all a bit confusing to me.)
I'm rolling a dwarf priest alt, just hit level 10. I'm kind of tired of being the primary damage dealer (my main is an affliction warlock, level 40), and my friend made a draenei mage so he can duo with me. Since I'm tired of dealing primary damage, I'd like to do something a bit more support, but all of these guides only list the talents, but not the order in which one should take, etc. He's fine with me taking a support role rather than a damage dealing role as a priest.
Basically what I'm getting at is I would like to know what combination of talents (and which talent tree/talents to start with at what level, when (level-wise) to switch over, etc) would best benefit us both the best In a duo party, with the occasional bigger group for instances and such. I probably won't play this character without him duoing with me, so I'm not too worried about solo viability in the long run.
I'm totally new to priest stuff, and none of these guides are making any sense! Please help me out here... I'd really appreciate it.
Ah, at the last minute I figured it might help if I told you my professions.
Herbalism, Alchemy, Cooking, and First Aid. I'm aware of the fact that apparently First Aid is very good for my general health, thus I'll be focussing on levelling it. My Alchemy's health pots have also been useful to me, so I can't imagine I'll be rerolling that prof. My main is a skinner/tailor, so I can craft cloth gear for my priest if need be.
Let me know if theres anything else you'd like to know about my character. Sorry if this has some blatantly obvious answer somewhere, but I really did try searching.
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The FAQ is a great start. You want to put most of the first few talent points in the Holy tree. Look at the builds, then start with 5 points in tier 1 holy, next 5 in tier 2 Holy by 20, you will have a better idea on what you need for your play style. And You should not be dealing more DPS than a mage.
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at the lower levels i find that with talents in the shadow tree i can deal some pretty good damage and also heal whenever required. the first talents anyone should get are 5/5 spirit tap. very useful in either role and at the top of the tree.
as for the stats, i would think stam and then a mix of spirit and int as a medium sized manapool will be topped of whenever you kill someone (because of spirit tap) and u wont run out of drinks with a mage by your side.
at level 40 will the big decider, shadow form or holy spec? but thats a while off yet. i will say what i tell everyone though. just put your talents in the tree you will benefit most. if ur mage freind isnt good at kiting then you may be doing more heals than damage or if you solo more often then not then shadow is the way to go. but just do what you prefere.
as for the stats, i would think stam and then a mix of spirit and int as a medium sized manapool will be topped of whenever you kill someone (because of spirit tap) and u wont run out of drinks with a mage by your side.
at level 40 will the big decider, shadow form or holy spec? but thats a while off yet. i will say what i tell everyone though. just put your talents in the tree you will benefit most. if ur mage freind isnt good at kiting then you may be doing more heals than damage or if you solo more often then not then shadow is the way to go. but just do what you prefere.
I'd suggest going 3/3 Imp Renew, then 2/2 Healing Focus, then 5/5 Divine Fury, then 5/5 Holy Spec.
After them you should have a good enough idea on where to put your talent points
After them you should have a good enough idea on where to put your talent points
You're much better off going shadow if your friend is a mage.
Mages are ranged dps. This means a mage will try to kill a mob at a distance before it can even reach them. If you go holy at these levels you'll be waiting on your *** most of the time because the mage won't be getting hit that much. If you go shadow you can add more dps and also slow mobs with mind flay. You'll still be able to heal you and your friend but the other abilities will allow you to dps. This meas you'll always have something to do, heal when needed and dps when not.
Also between a priest and mage you've got some good cc, sheep, shackle, mind control and fear.
If at higher levels you want to become a better healer in groups (although pre-bc a shadow priest can get by with healing in groups) you can switch to holy at 40 50 60 or even 70.
Mages are ranged dps. This means a mage will try to kill a mob at a distance before it can even reach them. If you go holy at these levels you'll be waiting on your *** most of the time because the mage won't be getting hit that much. If you go shadow you can add more dps and also slow mobs with mind flay. You'll still be able to heal you and your friend but the other abilities will allow you to dps. This meas you'll always have something to do, heal when needed and dps when not.
Also between a priest and mage you've got some good cc, sheep, shackle, mind control and fear.
If at higher levels you want to become a better healer in groups (although pre-bc a shadow priest can get by with healing in groups) you can switch to holy at 40 50 60 or even 70.
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Well, since it had been a few days, I started putting points into discipline cause it made sense (and now with this advice, it seems it wasn't the right move. I was following a healer build that, to be honest, made little sense with a lack of "start on the holy tree" and stuff like that.)
So since you feel I should lean more towards shadow, I'm under the presumption I'll want to undo my talents and start anew, correct? If so, I'm a bit confused as to which direction I should take.
From the looks of it I've got two of you alluding to shadow and one of you stating that I would be wise to start holy.
Here's a link to my priest, and by proxy, the talents. I started with discipline, but because of these two mixed messages, now I'm very wary of stepping in either direction after resetting talents at risk of possibly crippling myself as time goes on when talents begin to REALLY matter. Which would you recommend I start with, what level/talent should I start first.
I'm sorry to be such a pain, I just want to get a good experience from playing a priest and not ruin it for myself by mussing it up and growing frustrated thinking the class sucks. I have a strong desire to learn it, I just need a push, so to speak, to get me in the right direction for the situation. Maybe I'm missing a glaring point someone has made or something.. I don't know. I can't help but feel the obvious has been stated already in this thread, in a guide, or somewhere, and I'm just not seeing it.
Also, the FAQ you mentioned, alcattle, I must be blind or something cause I don't see it. Either that, or I looked at it and just don't quite realize it. Heh.. rather embarassing to be honest. I've never been amazing at picking up support classes and learning quickly. Always been a damage dealer first, support class as a last resort kinda person.
Edited, Oct 15th 2007 10:24pm by MentosFreshMaker
So since you feel I should lean more towards shadow, I'm under the presumption I'll want to undo my talents and start anew, correct? If so, I'm a bit confused as to which direction I should take.
From the looks of it I've got two of you alluding to shadow and one of you stating that I would be wise to start holy.
Here's a link to my priest, and by proxy, the talents. I started with discipline, but because of these two mixed messages, now I'm very wary of stepping in either direction after resetting talents at risk of possibly crippling myself as time goes on when talents begin to REALLY matter. Which would you recommend I start with, what level/talent should I start first.
I'm sorry to be such a pain, I just want to get a good experience from playing a priest and not ruin it for myself by mussing it up and growing frustrated thinking the class sucks. I have a strong desire to learn it, I just need a push, so to speak, to get me in the right direction for the situation. Maybe I'm missing a glaring point someone has made or something.. I don't know. I can't help but feel the obvious has been stated already in this thread, in a guide, or somewhere, and I'm just not seeing it.
Also, the FAQ you mentioned, alcattle, I must be blind or something cause I don't see it. Either that, or I looked at it and just don't quite realize it. Heh.. rather embarassing to be honest. I've never been amazing at picking up support classes and learning quickly. Always been a damage dealer first, support class as a last resort kinda person.
Edited, Oct 15th 2007 10:24pm by MentosFreshMaker
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Yo. I'm Mentos's friend. Since me and Mentos will be mostly, if not all the time, be duoing on these alts I figured it might help if I posted my spec to help give a feel with what Mentos will be working with.
Mind you I don't know if the Mage's make up is relatively the same regardless of the talent spec but what the hell right? Basically I'm speccing mostly Arcane and branching off into Fire once I get 5/5 in Mind mastery.
Hope that helps.
Edit: Link to my Mage
Edited, Oct 15th 2007 11:42pm by EvilScoop
Mind you I don't know if the Mage's make up is relatively the same regardless of the talent spec but what the hell right? Basically I'm speccing mostly Arcane and branching off into Fire once I get 5/5 in Mind mastery.
Hope that helps.
Edit: Link to my Mage
Edited, Oct 15th 2007 11:42pm by EvilScoop
If you're always going to be duoing with your Priest, you CAN level holy. I've leveled my priest to 62 as holy, while being grouped with a shammy. I will say that if you ever go off on your own you'll have a pretty rough time of it, but that can be done as well, if you play the class decently.
If you're looking to play the "healer" role in your group, which it looks like you are, then I would start with 2/2 healing focus and 3/3 imp renew, and 5/5 in spirit tap in the shadow tree. The first 10 points should be available to you pretty quickly since levels 10-20 go pretty quick if you're in a group and know where to quest.
After that, I stuck to the holy tree, taking talents that seemed like they fit with my role in the group. I DID put a few points into Wand Spec in the disc tree. Mainly because when I'm not healing, I'm wanding so as not to use up mana and stay out of the FSR.
Since you'll be playing with a mage, they may not need much healing at all, so you may want to take some of the damage talents in the holy tree to help out with DPS.... in case you get bored. If you're looking forward to instances/raids, then you'll want to have as many improvements to your healing from your talents as you can.
It really all depends on your playstyle and your role in your group. Just have fun with it.
If you're looking to play the "healer" role in your group, which it looks like you are, then I would start with 2/2 healing focus and 3/3 imp renew, and 5/5 in spirit tap in the shadow tree. The first 10 points should be available to you pretty quickly since levels 10-20 go pretty quick if you're in a group and know where to quest.
After that, I stuck to the holy tree, taking talents that seemed like they fit with my role in the group. I DID put a few points into Wand Spec in the disc tree. Mainly because when I'm not healing, I'm wanding so as not to use up mana and stay out of the FSR.
Since you'll be playing with a mage, they may not need much healing at all, so you may want to take some of the damage talents in the holy tree to help out with DPS.... in case you get bored. If you're looking forward to instances/raids, then you'll want to have as many improvements to your healing from your talents as you can.
It really all depends on your playstyle and your role in your group. Just have fun with it.
Assuming you really are leveling with the mage (that is key to all of our posts), I recommend sticking with the holy tree. Get the Imp Renew (you will always have and use that spell/talent through 70 if you are a healer spec) and the healing focus (you don't have a tank so there may be times you are getting hit). Even when I spec shadow, I still use 2 points in healing focus because there are times you will need to heal and you don't want interrupts (that can mean all the difference in survival).
After the first tier of holy, go for the divine fury ... the reduction casting time of your heal will greatly increase your effectiveness (and enjoyment) in main healing if you ever get in groups for instances. You also will want this for a holy-smite build ... which is what I think you should strive for. This build lets you improve your smite damage while keeping you a strong healer. As you work your way down the holy tree, you can take talents to reduce mana use for smite and improve its damage without sacrificing many points out of your "healing" spec. This way, you can still do damage with the mage or solo and yet easily switch to healing.
As far as stats ... forget spirit initially. Spirit is good for levels 50+ and by then you will work out whether you want mana/time or spirit or a mixture. For now, at lower levels, you want Int over spirit. Get a nice blend of stamina and int from items with "... of the Eagle" so you have a decent mana pool and can do burst healing for more initial casts. Then you sit down with the mage and drink their free water to regain mana in-between fights. You don't have to worry about the long, marathon healing until end-game and that is where spirit or mana/time kicks in the most. For the boss fights you are going to heal while leveling up, you won't have time to be in the "non-casting" 5 sec rule to regain mana anyway.
Order I would take talents to level this way:
If you are going to mainly heal the instances at appropriate levels ...
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Wand Spec 5/5 (disc)
Silent Resolve 5/5 (disc)
Inner Focus 1/1 (disc)
... level 30 ... may want to respec or start going into holy tree again.
If you are NOT doing much main healing for instances, but rather grinding/questing with the mage:
If you are going to heal the instances at appropriate levels ...
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Holy Specialization 5/5 (holy)
Searing Light 2/2 (holy)
Imp Healing 3/3 (holy)
Spiritual Guideance 5/5 (holy)
Surge of Light 2/2 (holy)
Spiritual Healing ... you are coming up on level 40 and should asses what you really want to do with your priest. Level 40 could give you shadowform and you may want to respec that way.
After the first tier of holy, go for the divine fury ... the reduction casting time of your heal will greatly increase your effectiveness (and enjoyment) in main healing if you ever get in groups for instances. You also will want this for a holy-smite build ... which is what I think you should strive for. This build lets you improve your smite damage while keeping you a strong healer. As you work your way down the holy tree, you can take talents to reduce mana use for smite and improve its damage without sacrificing many points out of your "healing" spec. This way, you can still do damage with the mage or solo and yet easily switch to healing.
As far as stats ... forget spirit initially. Spirit is good for levels 50+ and by then you will work out whether you want mana/time or spirit or a mixture. For now, at lower levels, you want Int over spirit. Get a nice blend of stamina and int from items with "... of the Eagle" so you have a decent mana pool and can do burst healing for more initial casts. Then you sit down with the mage and drink their free water to regain mana in-between fights. You don't have to worry about the long, marathon healing until end-game and that is where spirit or mana/time kicks in the most. For the boss fights you are going to heal while leveling up, you won't have time to be in the "non-casting" 5 sec rule to regain mana anyway.
Order I would take talents to level this way:
If you are going to mainly heal the instances at appropriate levels ...
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Wand Spec 5/5 (disc)
Silent Resolve 5/5 (disc)
Inner Focus 1/1 (disc)
... level 30 ... may want to respec or start going into holy tree again.
If you are NOT doing much main healing for instances, but rather grinding/questing with the mage:
If you are going to heal the instances at appropriate levels ...
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Holy Specialization 5/5 (holy)
Searing Light 2/2 (holy)
Imp Healing 3/3 (holy)
Spiritual Guideance 5/5 (holy)
Surge of Light 2/2 (holy)
Spiritual Healing ... you are coming up on level 40 and should asses what you really want to do with your priest. Level 40 could give you shadowform and you may want to respec that way.
Normally a priest can do very well with holy when duo-ing with another player. However I highly recomend going for damage over healing when the other player is a ranged dps. The mobs shouldn't be hitting either of you and when they do you've got a shield and heals. Priests can dps well into the 60's, in groups and duo-ing, and still be the main healer.
Everyone keeps saying go holy for the heals, but how often are you going to be healing a duo mage? How often are you going to be dps-ing the mob down from afar?
I highly recomend going for dps talents (shadow) until later on if you want to change then by all means switch to holy at later levels.
I'm not saying you can't solo or duo as holy because you can. But in all honesty you're wasting points that you'll rarely use. Now if your mage friend was a warrior or other melee/tank class I can see going holy.
Everyone keeps saying go holy for the heals, but how often are you going to be healing a duo mage? How often are you going to be dps-ing the mob down from afar?
I highly recomend going for dps talents (shadow) until later on if you want to change then by all means switch to holy at later levels.
I'm not saying you can't solo or duo as holy because you can. But in all honesty you're wasting points that you'll rarely use. Now if your mage friend was a warrior or other melee/tank class I can see going holy.
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Hmm... you all make excellent points. You say to roll more shadow, but isn't going holy allowing me to do damage as well as heal anyways? I'd imagine Shadow does more damage, however, so I guess I kinda answered my own question.
Okay, well.. shoot. Now it gets hard. When you say roll shadow, are you referring to the cookie-cutter, face-melting shadow priest, or some kind of mixture of the two? If the latter, could I press you to show an example of somekind so I know what to shoot for?
I could have sworn I looked at a shadow-healer build the other day, but I can't for the life of me remember which site I saw it on.
At the very least, it seems the general consensus is saying to start holy, either way. Could I somehow meld the two, rolling mainly holy while being able to mix it up with DPS, while at the same time not compromising either side of the spectrum too much? I'm not sure if that made any sense, sorry if it didn't.
I'm really holding off on respeccing until I am sure I know the right move to make (hence my constantly pestering, arguing every point and asking a billion and a half questions. I wanna make sure I get it right the first time so I don't have to pay out the nose later to fix it if I mess up like I have already! :D ). Now, if there is a way to still be able to heal enough for the both of us as well as in instances within reasonable range of my level, I'd like to be able to get us into instance parties, since I know priests are in high demand (and the mage will get in by proxy as a requirement for my healing the instance to being with :) ).
Is this even feasible?
EDIT: While I'm at it, I've been reading up on these interfaces made for classes such as the priest, I haven't found any that either A) work, B) aren't raid panels.
Is there any out there that are amazing? Right now I'm using Fubar2.0 (I think its 2.0) and a bunch of addons. I'm more than willing to convert at least for this one character. I've read about decursive, but it seems it doesn't work with the new version of WoW? Is there anything similar that I should look into? Healing panels and such. I'm always getting my bars mixed up in the chaos.
Edited, Oct 16th 2007 9:36pm by MentosFreshMaker
Okay, well.. shoot. Now it gets hard. When you say roll shadow, are you referring to the cookie-cutter, face-melting shadow priest, or some kind of mixture of the two? If the latter, could I press you to show an example of somekind so I know what to shoot for?
I could have sworn I looked at a shadow-healer build the other day, but I can't for the life of me remember which site I saw it on.
At the very least, it seems the general consensus is saying to start holy, either way. Could I somehow meld the two, rolling mainly holy while being able to mix it up with DPS, while at the same time not compromising either side of the spectrum too much? I'm not sure if that made any sense, sorry if it didn't.
I'm really holding off on respeccing until I am sure I know the right move to make (hence my constantly pestering, arguing every point and asking a billion and a half questions. I wanna make sure I get it right the first time so I don't have to pay out the nose later to fix it if I mess up like I have already! :D ). Now, if there is a way to still be able to heal enough for the both of us as well as in instances within reasonable range of my level, I'd like to be able to get us into instance parties, since I know priests are in high demand (and the mage will get in by proxy as a requirement for my healing the instance to being with :) ).
Is this even feasible?
EDIT: While I'm at it, I've been reading up on these interfaces made for classes such as the priest, I haven't found any that either A) work, B) aren't raid panels.
Is there any out there that are amazing? Right now I'm using Fubar2.0 (I think its 2.0) and a bunch of addons. I'm more than willing to convert at least for this one character. I've read about decursive, but it seems it doesn't work with the new version of WoW? Is there anything similar that I should look into? Healing panels and such. I'm always getting my bars mixed up in the chaos.
Edited, Oct 16th 2007 9:36pm by MentosFreshMaker
First off I would recommend that you DO put your first few points into Imp Renew, Healing Focus and Spirit Tap. You WILL be healing at some point (maybe not often, but you will) and you don't want to be interrupted, and getting more bang for the buck out of Renew is always a good thing. Spirit Tap should help get your mana back up without having to sit down as much, no matter which way you decide to go in the end.
The flaw with melding both holy and shadow talents is that you won't get deep enough into either tree to get to the " better " talents in either one, imo. If you’re really against respeccing more than once or twice (I know I hate giving my gold to trainers!) and since you said from the start that you’re more interested in the support/healing role, especially for the higher levels, I would suggest going holy from the start.
There are a few nice talents in the holy tree that will help your holy DPS. Holy Specialization, Holy Reach, Searing Light, Spir. Guidance and Surge of Light all improve either your crit rate, your range or your damage. Surge of light gives you and instant cast, mana free smite spell. I'm currently specced into all of those, and if I'm doing dps in my group (three people on one mob = no healing required usually) I can easily match the hunter and shammy on the damage meters. If I were shadow, I’m sure I would probably do much more damage, but my primary role in the group is a healer.
The debate on the two trees could go on for days, and everyone has EXCELLENT points to support their opinions. In the end, the choice is TOTALLY up to you. You CAN heal as shadow, and you CAN dps as holy. I would say go play with your mage friend for a while, and see if your playstyles move you in a certain direction.
I’m done rambling now… I swear. Sorry.
The flaw with melding both holy and shadow talents is that you won't get deep enough into either tree to get to the " better " talents in either one, imo. If you’re really against respeccing more than once or twice (I know I hate giving my gold to trainers!) and since you said from the start that you’re more interested in the support/healing role, especially for the higher levels, I would suggest going holy from the start.
There are a few nice talents in the holy tree that will help your holy DPS. Holy Specialization, Holy Reach, Searing Light, Spir. Guidance and Surge of Light all improve either your crit rate, your range or your damage. Surge of light gives you and instant cast, mana free smite spell. I'm currently specced into all of those, and if I'm doing dps in my group (three people on one mob = no healing required usually) I can easily match the hunter and shammy on the damage meters. If I were shadow, I’m sure I would probably do much more damage, but my primary role in the group is a healer.
The debate on the two trees could go on for days, and everyone has EXCELLENT points to support their opinions. In the end, the choice is TOTALLY up to you. You CAN heal as shadow, and you CAN dps as holy. I would say go play with your mage friend for a while, and see if your playstyles move you in a certain direction.
I’m done rambling now… I swear. Sorry.
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Well then, from the sound of it, I guess I'll move with your suggestion then and go with a holy DPS, since it allows some measure of DPS as well as letting me heal.
I mean, worst case scenario, if I find that we need more DPS, I suppose I could just respec holy and say "***** it" to the whole healing idea if I had to. I'll just have to suck it up and spew more gold to those damnable trainers.
Now with that being said, what discipline talents would you recommend (nothing was mentioned on these,) should I roll fully holy (with the points in shadow for spirit tap) and then dump points into something else like discipline or shadow later on? I'll probably respec later tonight at some point. I made the mistake of going back to bed this morning and slept all day...
Edited, Oct 17th 2007 6:22pm by MentosFreshMaker
I mean, worst case scenario, if I find that we need more DPS, I suppose I could just respec holy and say "***** it" to the whole healing idea if I had to. I'll just have to suck it up and spew more gold to those damnable trainers.
Now with that being said, what discipline talents would you recommend (nothing was mentioned on these,) should I roll fully holy (with the points in shadow for spirit tap) and then dump points into something else like discipline or shadow later on? I'll probably respec later tonight at some point. I made the mistake of going back to bed this morning and slept all day...
Edited, Oct 17th 2007 6:22pm by MentosFreshMaker
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A lot of people suggest going Holy or Shadow, both of which are excellent trees, but Discipline might be something to consider.
As a 49 priest, straight Disc with three points in Holy for Imp. Renew, I find I rarely have trouble with mana management and rarely, if ever, stop to drink. By going deep into the Disc tree, at the later levels you will be able to throw Improved Divine Spirit on your friend for some additional spell damage as well as Power Infusion to kick up his damage. Reflective shield may loose its luster the higher you level but the added DPS certainly doesn't hurt when shielding yourselves, especially as cloth wearers. Wand Spec will allow you to turn out some respectable, mana free damage as your buddy nukes away, and stronger shields on him and yourself mean less heals.
If you decide to run Battlegrounds for some gear, a Disc specced priest is a formidable healer and can really turn the tide of a battle. Shadow and Holy are the most common choice of trees but I've grown to love every part of the Disc tree. Not only will you be able to heal quite well, youll be able to boost yours friend's damage output as well.
This being my first post i'm not sure how to post a link but you can check out my gear and spec by searching for Merata in the WoW Armory, hope you found some of this helpful.
As a 49 priest, straight Disc with three points in Holy for Imp. Renew, I find I rarely have trouble with mana management and rarely, if ever, stop to drink. By going deep into the Disc tree, at the later levels you will be able to throw Improved Divine Spirit on your friend for some additional spell damage as well as Power Infusion to kick up his damage. Reflective shield may loose its luster the higher you level but the added DPS certainly doesn't hurt when shielding yourselves, especially as cloth wearers. Wand Spec will allow you to turn out some respectable, mana free damage as your buddy nukes away, and stronger shields on him and yourself mean less heals.
If you decide to run Battlegrounds for some gear, a Disc specced priest is a formidable healer and can really turn the tide of a battle. Shadow and Holy are the most common choice of trees but I've grown to love every part of the Disc tree. Not only will you be able to heal quite well, youll be able to boost yours friend's damage output as well.
This being my first post i'm not sure how to post a link but you can check out my gear and spec by searching for Merata in the WoW Armory, hope you found some of this helpful.
Allright.
I havnt read thru it all. I began but I gave up when I had like 3-4 more post's left.
Anyway, I just wanted to say.
I "almost" leveled my priest totally Solo. I played with a friend now and then and went a instance now and then.
BUT! I went full shadow all the way up to level 60. (levled it before BC)
While I had 0/0/51 on my priest I went to the higher level instance's. Like strat, scholo, UBRS and whatever more there was... Either as "mainhealer", or one of the healers(since UBRS was 10man).
I didnt have any problems with this at all..
So, my point is. Go with whatever tree you want to have. Specc how you want to, IT'S THE WAY YOU LEARN! :) Cause no matter what tree you go for, you can still heal.
And imo, shadow is fun. Specially when you will get up in levels and you will get Vampiric embrace and touch, your friend will really love the touch. :)
I recommend if you go shadow-specc to start build a healing gear around level 50-55 so you have atleast a decent gear if you decide to stay shadow and heal in instance now and then, or if you would like to respecc healer in outland.
(sure, the greens you can find in outland is way way better then the blue crap items you get in pre-bc. Now I dont know if you have a main on that realm or not though, but when you get to level 60 it's pretty sweet to be able to get a epic mount. :P)
Edited, Oct 18th 2007 2:32am by SweeXic
I havnt read thru it all. I began but I gave up when I had like 3-4 more post's left.
Anyway, I just wanted to say.
I "almost" leveled my priest totally Solo. I played with a friend now and then and went a instance now and then.
BUT! I went full shadow all the way up to level 60. (levled it before BC)
While I had 0/0/51 on my priest I went to the higher level instance's. Like strat, scholo, UBRS and whatever more there was... Either as "mainhealer", or one of the healers(since UBRS was 10man).
I didnt have any problems with this at all..
So, my point is. Go with whatever tree you want to have. Specc how you want to, IT'S THE WAY YOU LEARN! :) Cause no matter what tree you go for, you can still heal.
And imo, shadow is fun. Specially when you will get up in levels and you will get Vampiric embrace and touch, your friend will really love the touch. :)
I recommend if you go shadow-specc to start build a healing gear around level 50-55 so you have atleast a decent gear if you decide to stay shadow and heal in instance now and then, or if you would like to respecc healer in outland.
(sure, the greens you can find in outland is way way better then the blue crap items you get in pre-bc. Now I dont know if you have a main on that realm or not though, but when you get to level 60 it's pretty sweet to be able to get a epic mount. :P)
Edited, Oct 18th 2007 2:32am by SweeXic
5 posts
Alright, well after much deliberation, I think I'm going to go with this build, putting points in this order. I think I'll probably start by sticking one or two at least, into spirit tap.
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Holy Specialization 5/5 (holy)
Searing Light 2/2 (holy)
Imp Healing 3/3 (holy)
Spiritual Guideance 5/5 (holy)
Surge of Light 2/2 (holy)
Gives me the healing I want, while still retaining some measure of damage dealing capability. (I find that healing/shielding in the BG's is actually kind of fun, so I definitely want to keep my healing capabilities, and even maybe in the future go for improved PW:Shield if I feel so inclined.
If theres anything else you suggest for the future and such, feel free to let me know. Thanks for your suggestions and help, its been quite a difficult decision, to say the least. I now know I do indeed want to heal, and as such, I'll stick with it.
Healing Focus 2/2 (holy)
Imp Renew 3/3 (holy)
Divine Fury 5/5 (holy)
Holy Specialization 5/5 (holy)
Searing Light 2/2 (holy)
Imp Healing 3/3 (holy)
Spiritual Guideance 5/5 (holy)
Surge of Light 2/2 (holy)
Gives me the healing I want, while still retaining some measure of damage dealing capability. (I find that healing/shielding in the BG's is actually kind of fun, so I definitely want to keep my healing capabilities, and even maybe in the future go for improved PW:Shield if I feel so inclined.
If theres anything else you suggest for the future and such, feel free to let me know. Thanks for your suggestions and help, its been quite a difficult decision, to say the least. I now know I do indeed want to heal, and as such, I'll stick with it.
Scholar
34 posts
I went straight discipline all the way up to 49, then got spirit tap, improved SW:P, then finally holy talents, eventually ending up with a 40/14/7 build very close to the one I have today. All the way up to level 70 I pretended to be holy, when I pugged an instance and they asked "r u holy??" I lied and said yes. They never knew, but I mostly soloed, even king bangalash fell to my reflective shield when I was only a few levels higher than him. Most fights ended (and still do end) with me on full health and mana.
Ok I know with a strong holy build there's less likelihood of underhealing a boss's damage, but that's only when a discipline build really shows its limitations. Even at level 70 I wouldn't dream of trying to farm a dozen primals in a heavy holy build, I would pay to respec simply for the enjoyment factor of reflective shield and other disc talents, with higher damage and no down time.
Just my 2 copper, don't think anything I say is true it's just my perspective.
P.S. 5/5 spirit tap is fantastically good, and on solo group pulls (pretending to AoE farm) it shines.
Ok I know with a strong holy build there's less likelihood of underhealing a boss's damage, but that's only when a discipline build really shows its limitations. Even at level 70 I wouldn't dream of trying to farm a dozen primals in a heavy holy build, I would pay to respec simply for the enjoyment factor of reflective shield and other disc talents, with higher damage and no down time.
Just my 2 copper, don't think anything I say is true it's just my perspective.
P.S. 5/5 spirit tap is fantastically good, and on solo group pulls (pretending to AoE farm) it shines.
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