This forum's making me lose my faith in humanity...Follow

First off very nice post, you made a point without flaming or trying to make people look stupid. And that is a very rare thing among the regulars here. But please allow me to take a few points from your post and comment on them.



Now i am not a old timer here by any means. but i have been here for a few months and i must say that i have never seen such a post. What i have seen are posts where in the poster asks a very simple and very valid question. But does not speak English very well or was simply not paying attention to every word in the post. And as such was ripped in two by some users here. I have seen it first hand

This is one of my all time favorites

The opp posts:


A long time user who is famous for being an @#%^ then posts

Now this post got to me for two main reasons. First this was not leetspeak on the opps part. but just poor keyboarding. Did he deserve to not have his question answered? maybe. But what really got to me is that instead of just ignoring the post. the long time user actually had to post that self absorbed crap, like people are clamoring for his take on things.

And why should i go out of my way to ignore these hateful long time posters when they don't make an effort in the slightest to be kind? I refuse to ignore these posters because they refuse to ignore poor posts.

If they really hated poor grammar and repetitive questions then they would just stop posting responses to the questions. But they love trying to belittle people and it shows with the constant negative posting. This is my main reason for flaming these people.

And also like i said. this is a game to me and just like the actual game of world of warcraft, i can take it or leave it. so having this account deleted really means nothing to me.

However i would like to take the opportunity to thank you for your post. It was very well spoken and made great points. and as i have stated above best of all is that it does not belittle posters.

*almost forgot*

Also my screen name can be taken poorly, but in truth its entirely innocent of how it sounds. and is certainly not "asshat"

Simple truth is that koot is a real life nickname that stuck with me. and i used to play guild wars. so i had a character named farmerofkooter, Slammerofkooter, punisherofkooter and many other names that would associate my nickname with my characters.



Edited, Oct 13th 2007 3:51am by Slammerofkooter

Well unless your birthname is Kooter or something I see no reason to have the SN. I've commented on it before because I do find it offensive. (edit after koot edited) Although you having a nickname Kooter makes me want to know why knowing what Kooter means.

It's true that when someone posts on many of the things that have been and are answered, someone will tell them to check the FAQ. The information is all there. And yes, someone will inevitably (spl?) flame. Some take this too seriously. However, the whole point of the FAQ is so that the only posts that appear aren't always "what spec" "str or stam?" "what bow" "is hurricane good" blah blah blah.

If people continually ignore the FAQ, it will be a "what should i do" forum, rather than a class discussion.

I'm not an old timer either, but I agree with them. Nip it in the butt before everyone thinks they can do it. Still, some are bigger jerks about it than others.

It's nice to know that people try to answer their own questions before they go on and post a new thread. I think that's long time poster's main gripe about the questions that just won't die. (Besides the big bold letters that say PLZ READ THE FAQ BEFORE POSTING that 90% of people that ask the quests OP listed just don't seem to do.)

Edited, Oct 13th 2007 1:31pm by Raynebow

I think Skribs had an well build, non offensive post about in which he stated his personal view on things without trowing sh*t at someone.
Rating him down only makes someone thinks that he was right and someone got offended.
In short he just wants from "ol' posters" to show wisdom to newbies and noobs as well.

Edited, Oct 13th 2007 6:16pm by EtherealSin

Wow thats a spin on things, well anyway skribs it was a good thought inducing post. sorry to hear you got rated down for it, but i do still firmly believe that if the long time posters hate the repetitive and poorly typed posts here so much. Than they should just ignore the posts completely, I feel no sympathy for people who actively search out these types of posts just so they can attack them. and i feel that is exactly what the majority of long time posters here do.

Edited, Oct 13th 2007 8:40pm by Slammerofkooter

I said something like this a while back, and actually North was really nice about it. I said, maybe we can just post a single "look in the sticky" response and let the stupid question posts die. He/she/it (North, I have no idea what gender you are, there seem to be differing opinions) just said we could try - again - but don't hold my breath.

I think forums develop their own personalities over time. This one happens to be a bit fiestier than most, but there are still helpful, informative people here. Most of the infighting seems to be due more to people telling each other how to behave to than any particular behavior directly.

Harsh lesson for someone brought up with Deep South/Texan manners: proper behavior on the net is a whole different ball game. It took a while before I let go of my determination to enforce face-to-face politeness on the e-community. It is an open arena, and no one is accountable to anything but their own sense of decency. But it is a community everyone is free to leave at any point. If people can accept the forums as they are, there are fun times to be had. But trying to change people's behavior on the net is like one of those ancient Greecian hell tortures, like rolling a boulder up a mountain for all of enternity.

If I can learn to cope, anyone can :)

Fixed.



I see your point, but no. Most posts here are good, or at least readable. Go to the O-boards for a comparison if you don't believe me. Only the retarded ones end up like you (though eloquently) describe them.

Not really...the first post of yours in this thread (the one that's sub-default now) made a comment about how you think it's funny to flame the long-time posters here.

That was pretty retarded.



See above.



It takes more than one person to rate you sub-default at this point. Keep going and that will change, however. But since you're looking for specific examples...



Retarded Statement #1



Retarded Statement #2



Retarded Statement #3, but let me explain why. You're basically saying that anyone who posts here that North doesn't agree with, he shuts them down. If he agress with them, he doesn't shut them down.

Hello, Captain Obvious. Would you like some cheese with your QQ?



Retarded Statement #4. If your grammar is poor, your grammar is poor. Defending it as being ok is retarded. Unless you're retarded and can't improve your grammer, in which case you're still retarded.



Retarded Statement #5. If we didn't respond to retarded posts in any way, this board would be filled with retarded posts. We ask very little. When people refuse to live up to their end of the "community transaction", they are corrected or made so uncomfortable that they leave. They can still browse the stickies, read other posts, and if they have the wherewithal, they can even yank their heads out of their asses and try posting something a little more meaningful.



Retarded Statement #6. Did no one ever teach you it was good to pay attention in school? Read books? Develop adequate language skills? Yet you dropped the ******* ball, post like an inbred 3rd grader, and then get butthurt when people call you on it. Geez, I'd rather get flamed in a forum than turned down from a job because your would-be-employer doesn't want semi-literate assclowns drawing a paycheck. The world is so horribly, horribly evil. This is your wakeup call.



Retarded Statement #7. Just face it. You're an obsessed attention ***** with a teeny e-peen who would rather excercise his loud mouth as opposed to simply walking away from the keyboard.

7 retarded statements in one post.

c wut I did thar?

Aurelius, seriously, would you marry me? In fact, I'm not even going to ask. I'm demanding that we elope right now. That was beautiful!


I would hardly consider myself one of the oldies here and definitely not part of a "posse". I don't specifically dislike North, skribs, Aehteen... Athaethien... A-something (<3) but nor do I instantly like anything they say, just because it came from them. [Sorry, Aurelius, that includes you. I know we're getting married but that's just cause you make me lusty with yer words. It's not love, so don't give me the goo-goo eyes, baby]


Regardless of me being part of some posse-dom, I can't say that I specifically like you, Slammer. I don't always hate you in general but I do hate when you do the above. I respect your ability to say something like, "I don't agree with/like you, North" and even state that you don't like being called retarded. That's fine and your right.

But your posts tend to degrade, strangle and drown themselves in a flurry of hot "@#%^s". You don't disagree in a constructed debate. You simply just stand there and scream swear words like a three year old child throwing a tantrum. Why?

Because not everyone agrees with you? Are you annoyed that not everyone online is a friend? Is it simply an anger management issue? Or do you think swearing at people makes you look fierce and like a figure of authority? Figures of authority and strength don't stand there screaming that everyone is a @#% because they feel threatened by disagreement.

Seriously, take a chill pill. Have an *****. Learn to use your indoor voice. Have sex to relieve tension. Have a milkshake. Do something.


I play WoW (at most - imagining that the week has been stress free and not full of work) for about three and a half hours in a week. Three and a half hours over seven days, so I'm hardly one who's obsessed.

You may not be obsessed either. But you'd much rather come here and write posts with more swearing than real debate, in order to convince yourself that there's a true lion under that outer kitten-skin of yours - rather than just discuss intelligently, shrug and chuckle to yourself, saying, "haw haw haw! That North is a rogueish card. A chap better watch himself around that toffee apple or he'll get his nadgers nipped!... And now it's time for my lunchtime plum pudding."

Pull yourself together.

I believe when I said "read the sticky" I got chastized for it a couple threads back :)



That is simply because it is the most active forum. Have you ever tried asking a question in the other forums? It takes at least a day to get a responce. Here, it's within 20 minutes!



DAMNIT you beet me to it :(

First to claim otherwise!

How long did it take her to get you out from between her legs?

Haarrr harrr harrr!!!

:P

o ya sorry. That would mostly be me.