More awesome mage nerfsFollow

Now on PTR,

-Hypothermia lasts 45 seconds
-MSD has an internal cooldown

Yeah, I have no idea why, either. Maybe they will decide against it?

MSD isn't specifically for mages.

Mages cannot be allowed to have more than one viable pve spec - else we'd be almost as good as Warlocks!

Isn't it obvious? We had to give up a longer Hypo and the MSD in order to obtain our RoR and damage tax.


This is balance.

isn't the tax implimented from TBC launch?

They first put CS on GCD then realised its impossible to use it unless you play with sub-50 latency and actually was doing nothing waiting to CS someone.

It later was attributed as a mistake on the dev's end. The dmg tax was vehemously defended till recently after they realised "oh crap 4/5 T6 plus MSD and a kara trinket is only competitive". I think the next time they try to tune us, they should get some input from DnT mages and the top mages in the top arena teams.

Mages are going through a phase. A phase that Rogues went through before they actually got that class back on track again. There are more hits than misses so far, so I will take things one at a time... for now.

Be thankful mages are such a challenge but still so powerful when played well - our playstyle looks cool and we earn respect, unlike any lock :)

Hypothermia increased? who cares, too many safemode frost mages anyway. They still won't be primary target in arena I assure you.

MSD cd ... well being an arcane mage I can tell you that gem is rediculously overpowered when it can proc 6 times per cast. Brilliant fun, but definately overpowered.

Although a good lock and usually a good rogue will beat me, I'm almost guaranteed to beat any other class. That MSD proc definately helps in that regard vs anyone.

Bring on the nerfs.. we'll just have to get more skilled.

Hypothermia sucked INCREDIBLY in the first place...i was just sorta kinda (not really) getting used to the 30 second thing and learning not to hit the wall every time i died because of it, and now 45 seconds!!! >.> my wall is toast

I would think they were not so concerned with AoE triggering it since no mage in their right minds would go AoE just to get procs. Even in PvP the impact is minimal especially since you most probably not use this trinket in PvP anyway.

This change is more or less targeted at MSD mages who throw 2.5s arcane missiles. That DD spell hits for 5 times and if you do it at the right time you can get heaps of crit hits. I applaude this attempt at reducing the effectiveness of the trinket from one spell (arcane missle) instead of slapping an internal CD on it like they did with MSD.

There is some significant impact on Shamans.
Lightning bolt will be 2.0s next patch. If we factor in elemental talents then it will become a 1.5s cast. Add in travel times of the spell, Shamans will still be harder hit by this change than mages are. Plus the crit from lightning overload procs will most likely be ignored as well. This will reduce elemental Shaman dps by a larger margin than mage's.

I use this in PvP along with my 'insignia of the horde'. It was really nice to see AM bolts crit crit crit then a lightning bolt, then more arcane bolts. ;-) Extra damage FTW.

Additionally, this will affect me in my current frost incarnation as I use a shatter frostbolt/ice lance combo to double crit quite frequently. Now that'll only get 1 charge instead of 2. Not as significant of a hit as the nerf is to AM spam, but significant enough.