Bye Bye DaggersFollow

2.3 patch notes are up and with it so are my hopes. With the riposte buff to combat and the added hp/resil from season 3 gear, I'm 95% confident that all hard core pvp'n dagger specs will die. I still refuse to swap specs, but there's no way around it now: combat is the best spec for everything.

Seems Blizzard really enjoys making rogues act like bad warriors -_-

Exactly nooble!

Keep in mind this problem arises from arenas.

Hey guys what are the changes to Riposte? Cannot find it in patchnotes or anywhere.

Yet it still costs us 6 talent points to pick up riposte. Riposte is now on DR and if anything it is even easier for warriors to pick up their anti-disarming talent (it has been swapped with improved intercept so it is earlier on in the fury tree).

-Riposte is now subject to diminishing returns in PvP.
-Improved Intercept and Weapon Mastery have swapped locations in the talent trees.
-Weapon Mastery (Arms) now reduces duration of Disarm effects against you by 25/50% rather than giving you a 50% chance to avoid or full immunity to Disarm effects.

With 2/2 in Weapon mastery, warriors will have reduced disarm lengths by 50%. Add DR to that and your first Riposte lasts 3 seconds, second one at most 1.5 and from then on its pretty pointless...

I don't see how this is considered a "buff" although feel free to enlighten me please!

Edit: stuck in the patch quotes.

Edited, Oct 12th 2007 10:36am by Flubgaurd

Edited, Oct 12th 2007 10:38am by Flubgaurd

and you're not even thinking! how incredibly long do you think that fight is going to last you? riposte is on 10 second cooldown, right? that means that even if you parried that warriors attacks with the appropriate timing, you would still need to wait a little over 20 seconds to get that off anyway (energy constraints). granted the time is reduced a little--i still see it as a nerf--but you shouldn't really consider it a nerf because after 2 usages the returns are sad as hell. the fight with said warrior probably isn't going to last much longer than that. granted, it could. but it shouldn't. get it done man. the longer that fight goes on, the more of a chance you're toast. that warrior will eat you alive.

i guess the warriors you are fighting must be really decked, because it doesn't take me that long to burn mine down (arena rating 1500ish--i know it's low but they are still wars in plate, and some of them are very good). your healer must be really really good if you let it go on that long my friend. my point is that the situational nature of riposte (you need the energy b4 it goes away, you need to parry when riposte is not on cd) make it ok for 1 fight. plus it's still awesome damage/energy. use it. be grateful.