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Oh, of course, I knew about that one, I didn't know if you meant some other post specifically stating that. I understand the way that they got the damage outputs and how mages were OP because of the discrepancy in gear between kara and spellfire/spellstrike/etc. Okay, we are cool now, I wasn't sure that is the one you were speaking of.

I have also read that rogues (assuming they can go all out the entire time) will outdps almost every class because that is really all they are... dps (and the occasional kick to stop a cast, that doesn't have much impact at all in their fighting), and a lock uses the majority of their casts to be instants and make it an unfair argument especially when considering multiple targets (like I pointed out before). In straight single-target combat it becomes much closer, if not the mage will rise above because of the ability to chain cast, where for example with Gruul a lock can put three dots up on Gruul during the silence and shatter, where mages are SoL (along with Boomkins/etC).

Sorry for getting into this debate and using cap locks earlier but I thought it was necessary to tell everyone that mages are on the bottom of the damage meters. Glad were cool now Anobix.

And ktangent thanks for bringing up that post and doing the hard work.

As far as I know it doesn't matter if you are on European or American servers... they all run the same patch, your side has the damage coefficient as well.

5%, and it won't make you top of the meters if the rest of their dps are playing properly.



2/5 T5 AND the lightning capiitator. And then you have to regem and pick up MSD, oonly to have it nerfed next patch and fire buffed.

Arcane is not all roses, either - you become a slave to your mana bar and casting cycle. It weakens you where you are strongest - killing adds. Shorter range etc - I can't say I;m a fan, although the more involved gameplay almost made up for it.

I knew that it's going to get adjusted(or did it already?), but I was unaware of any effects on procs based on the new weapon speed.

Kave,

I will take your points given that you are waay deeper into raiding than I am atm. We are just beginning to scratch SSC and TK whereas you are way deep into it. Like I said in my post, I do not actually raid to top dps meters. If that was the case, then my RLs would have no motivation to pick me at all when I was without my complete spellfire set. Even then they are several dpsers in my guild now who out gear me and do better in certain cases.

Your statement about how the un-nerf will not put mages back on the top of the meters again kinda came across as saying "I must be #1 dmg or Blizzard is doing something wrong". It is this what triggered my statement. There is this o-board like sentiment that mages need to be top and warlocks are replacing us. What should be important is that mages are filling in a role that is needed for raiding. We are filling an important role, yes some of the warlock stuff is too powerful in their own right. Warlocks who have the skills to do those things go places while the ones who don't continue to struggle. In fact, I am happy that warlocks are given an important role to fill in raids now. The part where they outdps us is in part caused by stagnant talents, poor itemnization and no cross raid synergy.

In most cases, mages are not even synergising with each other. Warlocks are allowed to feed off each other's crit shadowbolts. Its the synergising part that needs to get fixed, not warlock damage. I just see it that way. no offense taken. =)

I still really miss the "lol, 3k ignite ticks" made the mages very synergetic (sp?) and was really fun aggro wise. Making sure that you dont grab the next igite stack and/or stop DPSing or else you would be pasted.

Still cant believe they took that out, okok it was OP, but i thought it was brilliant synergy, maybe they could put it back in somsort of nerfed form.

I decided raid priest now bc they took out "our" ignites. That was the only fun thing about raiding with mages imo, made it exciting.

And yet if you look at end game dps, rogues rape mages on the damage meter.

Most of you are right.. mages and locks both have their rolls in the game. I have both.. and I love playing my lock.. in the same way I love playing Eddie Gordo in Tekken. But there's times I'd also like some more challenge in my gameplay.. so that's why I'll chose another class to play as well. Like Eddie.. I can give my GF my lock, show her 3-4 buttons to push.. and she'll do just fine. So love your locks.. I sure do.. when I'm bored or too drunk to actually play somthing challenging.

Personally I think you Mages are mad because us Warlocks get a nice hawt succubus to keep us company and all ya'll get are a bunch of sheep.


Less QQ more Pew Pew KTHXBAI <3

AH ok. Peace.

AHEM

o damn wait what did i want to say...bioshock is so distracting.