The Raid Thread: Daggers vs Swords vs Maces vs Fists :: Free Realms

#27 Oct 11 2007 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent

486 posts

LordMeridus wrote:

Combat swords (using my gear with just a weapon swap) still comes out higher on the spreadsheets than combat daggers if you compare spiteblade/latro's to malch/sunblade.

Hmm, I moved from Emerald ripper + Feltooth to Spiteblade + Latro's, and the spreadsheet showed not much difference. Therefore I would assume Malch+Sunblade would be quite better than the 2 swords (and a winner set for Karazhan level available weapons (not counting PvP stuff)).
But I don't have the spreasheet here to actually get the numbers.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#28 Oct 11 2007 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good

__DEL__1591877457545

1,105 posts

I don't care I think mutilate daggers is cool and I'm dealing decent damage with them and adding (some) viability to the raid with improved kidney amoung other things. Have fun with your build and your preferred style of play. it's no good to have the highest dps in the raid if you hate using the combat method of attack. same time listen to these guys if you don't mind the differences in the sword and dagger methods of playstyle and want to wow your guild with your powers of dps. Have fun and have good hunting.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#29 Oct 11 2007 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent

__DEL__1592268796366

Scholar

155 posts

duh sub. its a no-brainer with all that added agi and shadowstep at the beginning of the fight you will out dps any other build

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#30 Oct 11 2007 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default

__DEL__1591924117352

Scholar

339 posts

Quote:

duh sub. its a no-brainer with all that added agi and shadowstep at the beginning of the fight you will out dps any other build

and since you can always vanish and ambush AGAIN, theres no way other builds come anywhere near full sub. 0/0/61 baby.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#31 Oct 11 2007 at 4:13 PM Rating: Default

__DEL__1592268796366

Scholar

155 posts

And dont forget to spam envenom whenever you can.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#32 Oct 11 2007 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good

__DEL__1591940362316

Scholar

190 posts

I used to be really anti swords, ran mutilate through my first 5 or so Kara's. and in the process of chasing the hourglass I got a latro's. From there I was like ok its time for swords, went form revered with scryers to exalted with aldor(1 1/2 weeks) and picked up Vindi brand. I will never go back to daggers, swords are just to damn awesome. I love the EXTRA ATTACK pop up especially when its followed by +15 energy on both.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#33 Oct 12 2007 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good

__DEL__1617582187621

Sage

5,645 posts

Quote:

Well as a dagger rogue try and get position on a pull of 5 trash mobs that die in like 5-6 seconds. I know the op wants in "optimal situations" where actually if its were a tree with a billion health and didnt move or attack who would dish it out more but honestly it wont ever happen.

Tee hee, while not a dagger rogue myself (combat swords) I can say I got some stunned looks when I stayed on the top of the damage meters during moroes trash (And i mean WAY ahead).

AR + BF + Abacus + zerking = zomg sick damage to several mobs at once.

I tried combat swords and mutilate for raid damage, using Malch + em ripper for daggers and Vindicators + S2 Offhand for swords, overall my DPS with swords was leagues ahead of mutilate. the only fight where muti was handy was on curator since it was more bursty than swords which helped on the orbs.

Check out elitistjerks.com for some good math on the matter.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#34 Oct 12 2007 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good

__DEL__1591940362316

Scholar

190 posts

yeah the moroes trash pulls are awesome, I had a mage last week go.. "Dude this is when Im suppose to pass you on dps." I just said, then keep up and blow your cooldowns.

▲ Page top

Quote Reply

#35 Oct 12 2007 at 11:14 PM Rating: Decent

__DEL__1591935992242

Scholar

207 posts

I say Combat Herring, with a 16 pound catfish offhand.

<3

▲ Page top

The Raid Thread: Daggers vs Swords vs Maces vs FistsFollow