wRabbit wrote:
Personally, I love ravage, mostly cause 70-80% of the time, i crit and it does some nasty damage, I rarely use pounce unless its against a caster. But even still, ravage does 350% damage plus like 500 damage. Thats a ton of HP. I usually crit for up to 3k. Then I follow up with rip & manage giving them a dot, then i just sit back and react to whatever they try. I leave myself flexible to situations. But thats just me. Reading the previous posts, I guess it just depends on the player. Though consider 1 thing, in boss fights, pounce has no effect :) Where as ravage will definitely have an effect.
Congrat on your 70-80% crit rate. I thought I was doing well at 33%...I guess I have some work to do. ;)
Seems odd to save Pounce for casters, as they are low armor and therefore the better target for Ravage which you seem to like a lot (plus that Mages can blink out of a Pounce) while higher armor targets mitigate more of Ravages damage but would take the full bleed damage of a pounce.
I tried to do some actual math comparing the openers for us 70s. I'm not taking into account mitigation cuz that's over my head, and I'm not a math guy so this is probably totally FUBAR but I wanted to try.
Assuming a base hit of 200.
Assuming a bleed- or at least stun-susceptible mob.
Scenario One
- Ravage: 200x350%+514 = 1214 (crit 2418)
Scenario Two
- Pounce: Initiates 600 bleed damage over 18 seconds
- Faerie Fire
- Mangle: 200x160%+264 = 584 (crit 1168)
- Shred: 200x225%+405 = 855 (crit 1710)
- Shred 2 with OoC: 855
Assume no crit on a ravage, as that's the 68%ish probability.
Assume 1 out of 3 attacks in scenario two because most 70 druids have a crit rate around 32-33%. I'll assume a crit on the mangle since it's the lowest number, just to be conservative.
Ravage: 1214, 1 combopoint (best case scenario 2428 and 2)
Pounce/Mangle/Shred: 2023 worth of hits + 600 bleed damage, 3-4 combo points. With the second shred of an OoC proc, opening damage jumps to 2878.