I am leveling my alt warrior (he may just become my main, actually!) and at level 36 decided to try dual wielding. I picked up the hypnotic blade (1.4 speed, 26.8 dps, 8 Int, 3 Spi) from SM and hate to let it go to waste, but could not find another good dagger on the AH. So I picked up a 1h sword, the Nobles Brand of Strength (2.1 speed, 22.1 dps, 7 Str).
The hypnotic blade is a main hand dagger, so the sword is off-hand. So, my question is, if you saw me standing outside the bank in IF, would you think "look at this noob using a dagger AND a sword"?
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"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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Not really, I have same set up and DW when I solo, just keep a board in backback to go defense when it gets tough. Probably can use for 5-6 levels.
Here's why I asked. Because that very thing happened to me. In IF. Said by a L70 Mage.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
The mage is an idiot plain and simple. As long as you're Fury, what weapon you choose doesn't matter (unless you want the racials), since the weapon specializations are in Arms. Though, it's generally better to do a slow MH and a fast OH to capitalize on the MH's higher top-end damage and the OH steady rage generation. But for leveling, you use what you have access too :)
cynyck wrote:
I am leveling my alt warrior (he may just become my main, actually!) and at level 36 decided to try dual wielding. I picked up the hypnotic blade (1.4 speed, 26.8 dps, 8 Int, 3 Spi) from SM and hate to let it go to waste, but could not find another good dagger on the AH. So I picked up a 1h sword, the Nobles Brand of Strength (2.1 speed, 22.1 dps, 7 Str).
The hypnotic blade is a main hand dagger, so the sword is off-hand. So, my question is, if you saw me standing outside the bank in IF, would you think "look at this noob using a dagger AND a sword"?
The hypnotic blade is a main hand dagger, so the sword is off-hand. So, my question is, if you saw me standing outside the bank in IF, would you think "look at this noob using a dagger AND a sword"?
1) at 36 you should still be using a 2h, but if you must insist...
2) definitely mainhand a slower wep with bigger max damage, to take advantage of instant attacks
3) the stats on the dagger do nothing for you. when i'm in my dw fury spec (17/44), i mainhand the planar edge and offhand the guile of khoraazi (+ to agility and AP). i also recently enchanted the dagger with potency (20 str). otherwise, no, there isn't anything wrong with dual wielding a sword (in mainhand) and a dagger (in offhand). the offhand wep should be sub 2.0 attack speed to increase rage generation, chance of crits, etc.
cynyck wrote:
I am leveling my alt warrior (he may just become my main, actually!) and at level 36 decided to try dual wielding. I picked up the hypnotic blade (1.4 speed, 26.8 dps, 8 Int, 3 Spi) from SM and hate to let it go to waste, but could not find another good dagger on the AH. So I picked up a 1h sword, the Nobles Brand of Strength (2.1 speed, 22.1 dps, 7 Str).
The hypnotic blade is a main hand dagger, so the sword is off-hand. So, my question is, if you saw me standing outside the bank in IF, would you think "look at this noob using a dagger AND a sword"?
The hypnotic blade is a main hand dagger, so the sword is off-hand. So, my question is, if you saw me standing outside the bank in IF, would you think "look at this noob using a dagger AND a sword"?
1) at 36 you should still be using a 2h, but if you must insist...
2) definitely mainhand a slower wep with bigger max damage, to take advantage of instant attacks
3) the stats on the dagger do nothing for you. when i'm in my dw fury spec (17/44), i mainhand the planar edge and offhand the guile of khoraazi (+ to agility and AP). i also recently enchanted the dagger with potency (20 str). otherwise, no, there isn't anything wrong with dual wielding a sword (in mainhand) and a dagger (in offhand). the offhand wep should be sub 2.0 attack speed to increase rage generation, chance of crits, etc.
you should never ever EVER main hand a dagger as a warrior.
NEVER
NEVER
wow two double posts by two people back to back... what are the odds? (stupid intrawezb)
Edited, Oct 6th 2007 8:58pm by russki
Edited, Oct 6th 2007 8:58pm by russki
I'm gonna park at the 39 BG for a while on my warrior, to get the plate gear. However, before-hand I got ran through RFD to get 2 pieces of plate from there (helm and chest), and somehow got 2 of the coldrage daggers before I got the helm. Now, I'm planning on going in with my ardent custodian and the green tower (instead of going fury like a normal person I may get the stun/silence talents from prot just to **** people off and draw fights out, which is what I enjoy) but if I do go DW it'd be fricken hilarious to go in with daggers.
That being said, daggers are a bit fast to use in your MH, but for the most part I don't see a problem with them. The only problems is you're going to see less damage on cleave and overpower (or slam if you use it, but you shouldn't with DW), but overall not too many warrior abilities are based too much on your weapon damage. Especially at this level. If it was a 2H I'd say to go for the slow one, simply because slam is your high-damage hitter there.
That being said, daggers are a bit fast to use in your MH, but for the most part I don't see a problem with them. The only problems is you're going to see less damage on cleave and overpower (or slam if you use it, but you shouldn't with DW), but overall not too many warrior abilities are based too much on your weapon damage. Especially at this level. If it was a 2H I'd say to go for the slow one, simply because slam is your high-damage hitter there.
russki wrote:
you should never ever EVER main hand a dagger as a warrior.
NEVER
NEVER
Well when it's sexicute range I swap out my axe for a dagger just so I can execute every global cooldown. But that is a situational usage of it. For normal dps and soloing russki is right, don't main hand a dagger. Though as said before at 36 go get your WW axe and spec for imp slam (learn how to use it) and watch **** drop like flies.
meh, flurry + trink + mongoose + meta gem + haste pot is more than enough to give me the speed i need to GCD execute every CD ;)
you actually CAN use slam non-improved effectively, as it doesn't disrupt your attack cycle (so if you have a 3.5 second weapon, and start casting 2.1 seconds after you just hit, your slam and your white damage should go off... unless that was broken fairly recently ago.
you actually CAN use slam non-improved effectively, as it doesn't disrupt your attack cycle (so if you have a 3.5 second weapon, and start casting 2.1 seconds after you just hit, your slam and your white damage should go off... unless that was broken fairly recently ago.
russki wrote:
meh, flurry + trink + mongoose + meta gem + haste pot is more than enough to give me the speed i need to GCD execute every CD ;)
you actually CAN use slam non-improved effectively, as it doesn't disrupt your attack cycle (so if you have a 3.5 second weapon, and start casting 2.1 seconds after you just hit, your slam and your white damage should go off... unless that was broken fairly recently ago.
you actually CAN use slam non-improved effectively, as it doesn't disrupt your attack cycle (so if you have a 3.5 second weapon, and start casting 2.1 seconds after you just hit, your slam and your white damage should go off... unless that was broken fairly recently ago.
Actually that's pretty much completely wrong with regards to Slam. Your normal auto attacks will not go off while casting Slam, and your swing timer is reset at the end.
so they did change it... rat bastards! haven't played 2h in faaaaaaaaaaaaar too long.
It's never, ever worked like that.
russki wrote:
you should never ever EVER main hand a dagger as a warrior.
NEVER
NEVER
O.K, so I should have just vendored the hypnotic blade then. And yes, I was doing SM in order to get bonebiter which I now have and am using. Nice axe.
Reminds me of Pink Floyd and a guy named Eugene.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
Hermann Goering, April 1946.
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